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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Freedom on Tue 11 Oct 2016, 9:39 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830290/15-pleads-guilty-murder-dinner-lady-13-year-old-daughter.html

Another truly appalling case. It isn't mentioned here but the female killer is believed to be the daughter and sister of the victims.
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Andrew on Tue 11 Oct 2016, 10:06 am

Yes, truly shocking this one. Girlfriend and boyfriend by the looks of it.
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Post  Andrew on Tue 18 Oct 2016, 1:25 pm

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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  chrissie on Tue 18 Oct 2016, 2:31 pm

What a dreadful case and if it is the victim's daughter/sister, makes it even worse.
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Freedom on Tue 29 Nov 2016, 10:52 pm

Freedom wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830290/15-pleads-guilty-murder-dinner-lady-13-year-old-daughter.html

Another truly appalling case. It isn't mentioned here but the female killer is believed to be the daughter and sister of the victims.

I missed the report of the sentencing at the time.

I think that this vile pair should have been named.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2155371/spalding-murders-elizabeth-edwards-teens-jailed/
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Andrew on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 11:05 am

Just reading about this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4012848/Teenager-Twilight-killers-named-judge-says.html

Was always lots of speculation that it was the daughter/sister and her bf that did it.
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The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Freedom on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 11:34 am

I don't see how they can be anyone else.

What was their motive and how did they have access to the house otherwise?
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Freedom on Fri 09 Jun 2017, 11:15 am

It did seem to be almost impossible that these creatures could be anyone outside the family.
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  bluebell on Fri 09 Jun 2017, 2:14 pm



I think it is good that their names have been revealed in the press.  But I just can't understand what could motivate or encourage youngsters to commit such a dreadful act, and why ?   14 year olds planning something so horrendous, I'm lost for words.    



It can be reported today that their killers were Ms Edwards' own daughter, Kim, and her tearaway boyfriend Lucas Markham, who were both 14 at the time, and their crime was motivated by petty jealousy.

The couple, likened to Bonnie and Clyde during their trial, had sex, shared a bath, ate tea cakes and ice cream and watched four Twilight vampire films as they 'revelled' after the killings.  

The identities of the couple could not be reported throughout a trial at Nottingham Crown Court in 2016 because of their age, but restrictions on naming the pair were lifted by three judges at London's Court of Appeal today.

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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Freedom on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 10:18 pm

You didn't look far, Andrew, with your post on the miscellaneous case topic!

http://www.channel5.com/show/murdered-by-my-daughter/

It will be available later.

The same error was repeated several times that the couple is the youngest to be convicted of murder - what about James Bulger's killers?
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  dannii on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 10:31 pm

They are Britain's youngest "double killers"
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Post  Freedom on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 10:38 pm

James Bulger's killers were only 10 at the time of the crime.
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  dannii on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 10:48 pm

James Bulgers killers are Britain's youngest killers.

The 2 teenagers are the youngest double killers as they killed 2 people at the same time.
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Freedom on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 10:50 pm

Okay, I see what the distinction is now. Thank you.
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Re: The murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

Post  Freedom on Tue 27 Jun 2017, 12:39 pm

I never knew there was an older daughter.

To me, the programme didn't seem unfair. I didn't get the impression that Elizabeth Edwards abandoned her daughter when she was six.

Yes, Kim was taken into care because of what was apparently an isolated act of violence against her but she returned home a few months later. That isn't abandonment in my view.
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