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Post  bluebell on Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:18 pm


Plus expenses no doubt. Unbelievable imo Evil or Very Mad

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Post  Mimi on Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:19 pm

Freedom wrote:Those African queens are very soberly dressed in comparison to Miss B!

Her weight could be due to a health problem in itself.

I think that she genuinely did need the services of a full-time chauffeur. If the latter's daughter's school fees were being paid by the charity, that of course is not acceptable.

Surely taxis would be cheaper than a full time chauffeur. I really think she suffers from Delusions of Grandeur.

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Post  PeterMac on Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:21 pm

Mimi wrote:
Surely taxis would be cheaper than a full time chauffeur.  I really think she suffers from Delusions of Grandeur.

STATUS is everything to immigrants, perhaps for reason we can understand.
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Post  bluebell on Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:24 pm

For the first time - NO      PM I don't understand that remark.   Why should it be??   Could you explain.        Surprised


I feel I must add to this in explanation - Her father was a doctor, she was educated at Sherborne Girl's School (high fees), she is not a poor immigrant seeking to make her way. Well educated, from a probably wealthy family. I can see no reason to afford her the benefit of compassion in the sense I understand you mean. Have I misunderstood. Surprised


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Post  Mimi on Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:25 pm

PeterMac wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Surely taxis would be cheaper than a full time chauffeur.  I really think she suffers from Delusions of Grandeur.

STATUS is everything to immigrants, perhaps for reason we can understand.

Come to think of it - you`re right.

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Post  pennylane on Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:32 pm

Mimi wrote:
Freedom wrote:Those African queens are very soberly dressed in comparison to Miss B!

Her weight could be due to a health problem in itself.

I think that she genuinely did need the services of a full-time chauffeur. If the latter's daughter's school fees were being paid by the charity, that of course is not acceptable.

Surely taxis would be cheaper than a full time chauffeur.  I really think she suffers from Delusions of Grandeur.

If I was her size, I would definitely have my own chauffeur/friend helping me if I could.  For one thing, she requires a big car with easy access.  Sorry I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just speaking practically.  I don't think the weight issue can be ignored in this equation.
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Post  Mimi on Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:38 pm

pennylane wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Freedom wrote:Those African queens are very soberly dressed in comparison to Miss B!

Her weight could be due to a health problem in itself.

I think that she genuinely did need the services of a full-time chauffeur. If the latter's daughter's school fees were being paid by the charity, that of course is not acceptable.

Surely taxis would be cheaper than a full time chauffeur.  I really think she suffers from Delusions of Grandeur.

If I was her size, I would definitely have my own chauffeur/friend helping me if I could.  For one thing, she requires a big car with easy access.  Sorry I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just speaking practically.  I don't think the weight issue can be ignored in this equation.

Ha - but taxis have very wide doors which could surely accommodate her Very Happy

How much does a chauffeur earn ? And that`s coming out of tax payers` and donors` monies. I`m sorry but her extravagances really annoy me and I think she has been taking the p***

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Post  pennylane on Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:07 pm

Mimi wrote:
pennylane wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Freedom wrote:Those African queens are very soberly dressed in comparison to Miss B!

Her weight could be due to a health problem in itself.

I think that she genuinely did need the services of a full-time chauffeur. If the latter's daughter's school fees were being paid by the charity, that of course is not acceptable.

Surely taxis would be cheaper than a full time chauffeur.  I really think she suffers from Delusions of Grandeur.

If I was her size, I would definitely have my own chauffeur/friend helping me if I could.  For one thing, she requires a big car with easy access.  Sorry I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just speaking practically.  I don't think the weight issue can be ignored in this equation.

Ha - but taxis have very wide doors which could surely accommodate her Very Happy

How much does a chauffeur earn ? And that`s coming out of tax payers` and donors` monies.  I`m sorry but her extravagances really annoy me and I think she has been taking the p***

lol, I haven't been in a taxi for decades so pardon my ignorance.

She is from a wealthy background I believe, so would possibly have a chauffeur anyway, especially at her weight, as I really don't think she can achieve too much walking without becoming seriously beleaguered and out of breath.

I agree with you she seems to play fast and loose with money that's been entrusted to help disadvantaged children!  If this is what we see on the surface, the mind boggles


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Post  pennylane on Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:58 pm

Yikes, sorry CF. I will try to be more careful!
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When glamour goes too far, perhaps...?

Post  Rosa canina on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:45 am

www.standard.co.uk/.../kids-company-gets-12...

From before the hubris set in.


What magnificent eyebrows Camila had back then -

- and noticeable how increasingly rococo her outfits became

as the money rolled in... Those gangster-mum nails...

and - oh Lord! - the fingerless gloves - so unhygienic...!

Yuck. And the wretched decorated yellow Crocs - !!

That aside, she has some magnificent fabrics -

(yes, some looked jolly expensive)

and I loved her West African prints.

Not a patch on your African Queens though, Mimi.

I did see Kids Company were launching their own label :

www.kidsco.org.uk/news-events/2009/bare-thread


Peculiar lady that she is, Camila gives me the impression

that she has been groomed...flattered, feted, fashionised -

(the driver I find a perfectly sensible idea)

- a figurehead and a fundraiser - fair enough -

- who on earth was running the rest of the charity?

There's no way she's the only dodgy one in this set-up.


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It's all coming out now.

Post  PeterMac on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:50 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192918/Kids-Company-trustee-s-children-charity-s-payroll-String-foreign-trips-daughter-hired-32-500-music-ordinator.html

Kids Company trustee's children were on charity's payroll: String of foreign trips for daughter hired as £32,500 'music co-ordinator'
Charity paid Sasha and Jamie Handover about £50,000 a year in total
They are the children of one of Kids Company's trustees Richard Handover
Sasha, 34, was sent on a series of expensive, far-flung fundraising trips
Charity defended hiring trustee's children, saying they worked 'damn hard'
By KATHERINE RUSHTON and CLAIRE ELLICOTT FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 21:57 GMT, 10 August 2015 | UPDATED: 00:37 GMT, 11 August 2015

Kids Company is facing a fresh storm of controversy after it emerged that two of the vice-chairman’s children were on the charity’s payroll before its collapse.
Sasha and Jamie Handover were both handed coveted jobs at the organisation where their father Richard, a former boss of WH Smith, has been a board member since 2005.
The siblings were paid around £50,000 a year between them by the taxpayer-subsidised charity until it imploded last week amid allegations of financial mismanagement and sexual abuse on its premises.
Sasha (pictured) and Jamie Handover were both handed coveted jobs at Kids Company, where their father Richard, a former boss of WH Smith, has been a board member since 2005
Miss Handover, 34 – real name Alexandra – is thought to have been the better paid of the pair, earning £32,500 a year as a music co-ordinator and events organiser despite having little previous charity experience.
Before joining Kids Company she worked in the press and PR department at radio station Classic FM, and was director of a sports fashion company called Top Dorris.

Writing on the Kids Company website, the Portsmouth University graduate said she headed up the music department, overseeing music at Kids Company centres that provide it as a form of therapy and providing artist development for the ‘talented young people’ it helps.

She helped to organise events for the charity with Coldplay, Tinie Tempah and Emeli Sande. She also organised a 150-strong choir of Kids Company children for a BBC Prom at the Royal Albert Hall.
In between she has gone on a series of expensive fundraising trips.
In 2010 she participated in an Arctic biathlon which raised nearly £17,000 for the organisation. According to her Facebook page, the trip was so gruelling she immediately jetted off to the sunshine afterwards. ‘Can’t believe I survived -30 in The Arctic to come home to bloody snow... I’m off to the beach!!!!’ she wrote.
Two years later the privately-educated charity worker went with five friends to Mount Kilimanjaro in Tanzania. They raised more than £26,000 for Kids Company.
It is not known when Jamie, 31, joined the charity, but a spokesman confirmed that he also raised funds and was involved in sports training for children at its London ‘Treehouse’ centre.
Kids Company’s 2013 accounts, the last available, confirm that one child of an unnamed trustee was earning a salary of just over £32,500, while another child of an unnamed trustee saw their pay double in a year to £17,124. The latter is thought to be Jamie Handover.
Last night, a spokesman for the charity confirmed that Kids Company had hired Richard Handover’s children but insisted that there was nothing wrong with the appointments.
‘Sasha has worked damn hard,’ the spokesman said. ‘I don’t understand the difficulty with that. It was not a secret and it was not nepotism. She has done a proper day’s work and contributed a great deal. They applied for jobs and they were given jobs.’
WHAT ARE THE RULES ON CHARITY TRUSTEES HIRING RELATIVES?
Charity trustees are obliged to declare any conflicts of interest, such as a relative who receives money from the charity or is on the payroll.
These sorts of conflicts of interest are not banned in themselves, but trustees must make sure they do not influence their decision making.
The charity is also obliged to record them in its minutes, giving the names of the trustee or trustees affected, according to the Charity Commission.
Charities are also required by law to declare the conflict in their annual accounts.
The Charity Commission website notes: ‘They [the accounts] must include details of payments and benefits to your charities’ trustees and people connected to them. You must say why the payments were necessary and the legal authority you had to make them.’
He added that Miss Handover had gone ‘above what could be expected of somebody [in that position] and saved some lives in really tragic cases’.
Outside work Miss Handover appears to have a healthy appetite for parties. She is frequently pictured on her Facebook page letting her hair down drinking with friends, and lounging on beaches in Greece where her father is believed to own a house.
She attended £33,000-a-year Millfield School whose alumni include Lily Allen and Sophie Dahl. Before that, she attended £30,000-a-year Dauntsey’s in Wiltshire where her father is chairman of the board.
It is not the first time Dauntsey’s has been linked to the scandal-hit charity. Kids Company is being investigated by the Charity Commission over claims that funds were used to pay for the private education of the daughter of one of the charity’s employees. Kids Company has rejected the allegations, insisting that the girl is on a ‘full, 100 per cent scholarship’.
Richard Handover CBE, 68, was chief executive of WH Smith until 2003, later becoming its chairman. He was appointed trustee of Kids Company in 2005.
He lives in a £1.5million home in Marlborough, Wiltshire, with his wife Veronica, 67, and has a third child, Felicity ‘Fizzy’ Handover, 36.
Kids Company was forced to close its doors after the Government withdrew a £3million grant.

Middleton Mum, Manchester, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago
I get so annoyed when I read articles like this. People who already have more than enough money are still out to make as much as they can off the backs of other people. Whether it's MPs with their ridiculous expenses and jobs for families, at the expense of the tax payer, and people like this who have no qualms about milking more and more out of a charity. Never mind the children the charity is supposed to be helping as long as their own are looked after.

uk is finished, bath, about 8 hours ago
Keep digging

The Kenny, Dublin, Ireland, about 8 hours ago
I stop at nothing for charity...

mikethevigilant, cambridge, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago
Great 'work' if you can get it

slubgod, Sydney, Australia, about 8 hours ago
The Fat Cat in the Hat.

Countrybumpkin49, bristol, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago
Most ' charities ' seem to have been set up to benefit scoundrels

Piglet100, staffordshire, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago
Any charity which receives money from the public, either through grants or collection tins, should be open to scrutiny by the public and should be answerable to us, there is too much going on behind closed doors with greasy palms and vested interests in a lot of charities, which have lost sight if their original purpose and turned into cash cows for those who should know a heck of a lot better

David, Bristol, about 8 hours ago
They were right to close it down. Taxpayers money should not be spent on these dubious charities. Charities should be run by private individuals.

Nigels MIrage, Nottingham, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago
Cameron was very supportive of them showering them with money end though they are about to be closed down. Rather odd. I am not suggesting anything untoward obviously.

Quidnunc, England, about 8 hours ago
So she raised £17 thousand, then £26 Thousand - making £43 thousand for the charity - which didn't even cover her and her brother's salaries !!! That says it all.

Sam, Sussex, about 8 hours ago
"Charity starts at home", unfortunately in this case it's someone else's money for good causes!
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Post  Andrew on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:58 am

'Handover' indeed.
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Post  Freedom on Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:54 am

Rosa: the link you provided to The Standard doesn't work.

I feel sorry for all the ordinary employees of the charity who have lost their jobs. Even if it is true that there was corruption at the top, they can't all have been in on it with their noses in the trough.

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Trustees getting out early

Post  PeterMac on Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:00 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/598109/EXCLUSIVE-Trustees-apply-wind-up-scandal-hit-Kids-Company-dashing-founder-s-restructure
EXCLUSIVE: Trustees apply to wind up scandal-hit Kids Company dashing restructure hopes

TRUSTEES of scandal-hit Kids Company have lodged court papers to have the defunct charity officially wound up, ending hopes it may be saved under a last-ditch restructure.

By JON AUSTIN
PUBLISHED: 14:25, Thu, Aug 13, 2015 | UPDATED: 14:48, Thu, Aug 13, 2015

Kids Company has applied to the High Court to be wound up
Express.co.uk can exclusively reveal charity leaders submitted a winding up petition at the High Court in London late yesterday.
Kids Company, which said it helped up to 36,000 poverty-stricken and vulnerable children and youths, closed last Wednesday just a week after securing a £3million emergency bailout from the Government.
The total sum owed to creditors has yet to be made public, but the charity's last set of accounts for 2013 showed around £4.7million was owed, and the position is believed to have worsened since.
It is understood there could be around £2million of assets left within the charity.
The case is expected to be heard this month.
If a specialist insolvency judge agrees to wind up the charity and its associated limited companies, the Kids Company finances will be pored over by receivers, in a bid to secure any cash back for creditors.
Remember how some of the Trustees / directors of of a "Fund" suddenly all jumped ship at almost the same time, some years ago . . .
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Post  Châtelaine on Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:07 pm

Oh, yes, I do remember Peter.
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Post  bluebell on Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:12 pm

The total sum owed to creditors has yet to be made public, but the charity's last set of accounts for 2013 showed around £4.7million was owed, and the position is believed to have worsened since.


Thank you for posting this PeterMac
I am so shocked by this.   Doesn't anyone/any organisation keep a check on such things?    Worse to come I think.

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Post  Andrew on Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:36 pm

Very much doubt 2 mil of assests

Batman and Robbin spent that. And the rest.
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Post  Freedom on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:14 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199528/Camila-s-private-swimming-pool-luxury-mansions-paid-Kids-Company-Children-used-5-000-month-home-banned-using-facility.html#comments

Now we know who makes Ms B's clothes. Don't all rush for her services, please.

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Post  Bubblewrapped on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:33 am

Place2Be started with Camila Batmanghelidjh, best known as the founder of Kids Company, a charity working with vulnerable children and young people. In 1991, while a part-time therapist at the Family Service Unit in Camberwell, funded by BBC Children in Need, she was called to Brunswick Park, a primary school in Southwark, to treat a seven-year-old girl who frequently tried to commit suicide. After several twice-weekly meetings at the school, the girl felt confident enough to talk. 'Since the age of five, she had been sexually abused,' Batmanghelidjh recalls. 'I realised here was a central flaw: that children who don't have a competent carer in their lives, can't access help.'

With the backing of the Family Service Unit and money raised by re-mortgaging her home, Batmanghelidjh set up The Place to Be (its original name) to help troubled children. Initially operating out of a converted broom cupboard at Brunswick Park, Batmanghelidjh expanded the service into four more schools and by the end of 1993, had recruited about 50 volunteer and paid therapists from training colleges such as Regent's College and the Tavistock Institute


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3357117/Place2Be-its-good-to-talk.html


Seems to have done quite a bit with that money from just re-mortgaging her home....

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Post  Guest on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:45 am

Freedom wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199528/Camila-s-private-swimming-pool-luxury-mansions-paid-Kids-Company-Children-used-5-000-month-home-banned-using-facility.html#comments

Now we know who makes Ms B's clothes. Don't all rush for her services, please.
I thought it was Harry Corry.

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Post  Freedom on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:47 am

I have to admit to never having heard of that company.

http://www.harrycorry.com/

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Post  Mimi on Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:39 am

White House, 72 Downage, Hendon :-

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property-history/72-downage/london/nw4-1hp/17314169

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5968706,-0.221607,3a,75y,91.81h,83.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1selv8A4IGiQaBOsLlNfvxyQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


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Post  Andrew on Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:48 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206679/Kids-Company-inflated-list-clients-15-500-Failed-charity-claimed-helping-16-000-high-risk-people-real-number-lower-500.html
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Post  candyfloss on Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:06 pm

Andrew wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206679/Kids-Company-inflated-list-clients-15-500-Failed-charity-claimed-helping-16-000-high-risk-people-real-number-lower-500.html
Kids Company 'inflated list of clients by 15,500': Failed charity claimed to be helping 16,000 high risk people but the real number may be lower than 500
[*]Kids Company 'hugely exaggerated number of young people it helped'
[*]Investigation revealed claims of 15,500 clients were more like 500 or less
[*]Allegations come as Charity Commission launched probe into organisation
[*]Reports have emerged taxpayers will lose £1.2million following its collapse


Kids Company hugely exaggerated the number of high-risk young people it was helping, it was claimed last night.

The failed charity publicly claimed to be helping 16,000 high-risk people, but an investigation has revealed the number may be lower than 500.

The latest allegations emerged just hours after the Charity Commission launched a probe into the organisation, amid reports that taxpayers will lose £1.2million following its collapse.

The charity, founded by Camila Batmanghelidjh, has already come under fire for misleading the public with dramatically inflated claims for the number of children it helped.

But last night, it was revealed that the charity had misled the public more than even its worst critics feared.

The charity has claimed that it helped 36,000 people, including almost 16,000 who were ‘high-risk’. But those claims were wildly out of kilter with the number of young people on its books when Kids Company passed the details of its vulnerable charges to the authorities following its collapse.

According to BBC Newsnight and Buzzfeed, Kids Company handed over the details of just 1,692 adults and children in London, including 331 designated as high-risk. Bristol City Council was given details of a further 175 clients.

Even if all the Bristol individuals were high-risk, the charity would have been in charge of only 506 high-risk clients – just 3 per cent of the 15,933 high-risk individuals Miss Batmanghelidjh identified earlier this month.

A ‘high-risk’ client is someone under the age of 21, who is from a low-income family, or at risk of abuse, neglect or psychological damage.

A senior figure who used to work at Kids Company said the discrepancy was down to timing. The charity would have looked after about 16,000 high-risk individuals over the course of a year, but the figure was much lower at the moment ‘because you can have clients who move from medium to high risk in a matter of days’, the source said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206679/Kids-Company-inflated-list-clients-15-500-Failed-charity-claimed-helping-16-000-high-risk-people-real-number-lower-500.html





[*]Just been reading this quite unbelievable, wonder how many more doing this sort of thing.

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Post  Andrew on Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:28 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3207460/Kids-Company-helped-scores-immigrants-stay-UK-benefits-arranged-private-sex-change-against-NHS-doctors-advice.html


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