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Post  Andrew Sat 18 Jun 2016, 10:50 pm

This DJ Shifty will be lined up next as the potential 'abductor'

"DJ Shifty seen acting shifty.......etc"
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Post  unreorganised Sat 18 Jun 2016, 10:52 pm

Andrew wrote:

Robert Hurst, landlord of the Pigs Head, said: “I find that really odd. I can’t imagine why he would suddenly want to invite them to his house.

Sounds more like David Cameron's kind of place.

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Post  unreorganised Sat 18 Jun 2016, 10:55 pm

Freedom wrote:I'd say that Antonella Lazzeri is treading on very thin ice by suggesting that Robert Murat was acquainted with Clement Freud.

I've been wondering if Casa Da Colina was a Jacinta and Murat project.
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Post  Hope Sat 18 Jun 2016, 10:57 pm

This is clutching at straws,a village with a handful of pubs, people who live there or spend time there for years on end will know others to see or chat to.
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Post  Andrew Sat 18 Jun 2016, 11:00 pm

"nodding" terms...  Very Happy

But not speaking terms then.

I nodded at someone I have never seen or met before earlier today. He nodded back as well.

Me and him are now on "nodding" terms.

In fact thinking about it I "nod" a lot. I must be a "nodder"

Got "nodder" friends all over the world.
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Post  dogs don't lie Sat 18 Jun 2016, 11:17 pm

Another two added to the list....
The Nodderman
The Shiftyman
What next...?

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Post  Andrew Sun 19 Jun 2016, 12:57 am

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/681212/Freud-inquiry-over-link-with-McCanns

Freud inquiry over link with McCanns

EMAILS sent by paedophile Sir Clement Freud to Kate and Gerry McCann may be submitted to an inquiry into historic child sex abuse.

By JAMES MURRAY, EXCLUSIVE
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Jun 19, 2016







Freud and Madeleine McCannALPHA / PH
Freud befriended the parents of missing Madeleine McCann in Praia da Luz
The McCanns became close to the Liberal MP and BBC broadcaster in Portugal after the disappearance of daughter Madeleine in 2007 and kept in touch until he died two years later.

Freud is expected to be covered by the Goddard inquiry, set up to examine allegations of abuse by people of “prominence in public life”.

During his lifetime, Freud appeared to be a convivial, avuncular character but was exposed recently as a sleazy sexual predator with an interest in young girls.

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He owned a property in Praia da Luz on the Algarve in Portugal, a few hundred yards from the apartment from where Madeleine vanished, aged three.

His son, wealthy PR man Matthew Freud, has said his father was not in Portugal at the time of the disappearance, but clearly took an interest in the case.

A family source said he met the McCanns twice and sent them emails, adding: “They took it at face value that he sympathised with their situation. They did not see anything sinister in his behaviour.”


A family source said he met the McCanns twice and sent them emails
In the light of recent revelations the McCanns will be re-evaluating their contact with him.

Clement cheered us up with his lugubrious wit
Kate McCann
Freud asked the couple for a meal when they were at their lowest ebb, in July 2007.

They went to see him in a group of seven that included their 18-month-old twins Sean and Amelie.

In her book Madeleine, Kate wrote: “I’m usually very intimidated by people with brains the size of planets but Clement was incredibly warm, funny and instantly likeable”.

She added: “Clement cheered us up with his lugubrious wit and would continue to do so by email after his return to England.”

That August, Freud returned to the resort and they planned to share another meal.

When Kate rang at 9.50pm to cancel he invited them around for a drink.

They arrived to find him in his nightshirt, watching a cookery programme.

After giving her a brandy, he asked her ‘So, Kate, which of the devout Catholic, alcoholic, depressed nymphomania parts is correct?’

She added: “A couple of hours later, fortified by our brandies (it was my first ever taste of the stuff) some useful snippets of advice and several amusing anecdotes, we left our friend feeling quite a bit better than when we arrived.”


His three known victims are expected to give evidence to the inquiry, headed by Dame Lowell Goddard.

Freud’s family could also be asked for the McCann emails and letters.

An inquiry spokesman declined to discuss whether Freud’s alleged conduct would be examined saying: “It is not appropriate for the inquiry to comment on events which may or may not impact on one of its investigations.”

Freud died in 2009 aged 84 but his widow, Jill, Lady Freud, has issued a “profound” apology to her late husband’s victims.
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Post  Bampots Sun 19 Jun 2016, 7:12 am

I know that the innocence of Robert Murat is a given for some here and on other blogs .......but the question given speedy retort by freedom re being careful over Robert Murat is surely still one we should think about even if it is quickly dismissed. The coincidents in this tragedy are at times overwhelming and scream and point to where we should look. Maybe the interesting thing this week isn't Freuds sexual preference for younger girls and the cohercion of them but the chain of who knew who just got one more link,and a link joins more links up! Trawling about Freud I was pointed in the direction of a new and an old CMOMM link. Which show some very interesting "links"...........


Post Cheshire Cat on Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:10 pm...........

......are close friends of PDL residents Chip and Carol Hawkes. Carol Hawkes worked with Clement Freud on a couple of episodes of 'The Goldon Shot'. And as I mentioned the other day, Carol Hawkes and Clement Freud have a mutual friend in Nicholas Parsons due to Carol being a hostess on Sale of The Century for years and Parsons being a close friend of Freud.



Youle, Chief Exec Missing People + Murats + Hawkes +...
Post Lance De Boils on Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:07 pm


Another astonishing set of "coincidental" connections:

Jo Youle, Chief Executive of Missing People was also a singer/songwriter.

She has in the past worked with Chesney Hawkes.

In fact, she seems to know the whole Hawkes family, including Chesney's parents, sibling, cousins.

Chesney Hawkes' parents are Len "Chip" Hawkes (from the Tremeloes band) and Carol nee Dilworth.

They own property in Praia da Luz and usually spend a few months there each summer. They were indeed there when Madeleine was first reported missing and Carol, in an interview, tells how she was involved in the initial searches. She is very supportive of the McCanns.

Here's a snippet of the interview: ("Digger" is the interviewer.)

http://www.retrosellers.com/features567.htm


Carol: You can find cute and quaint places that you never knew existed. We're lucky enough that when we both had a bit of money from what we were doing and had some spare money we bought some apartments in Portugal. In Praia da Luz, sadly where little Madeleine went missing, and we've been in that same little village for thirty five years. We sold the apartments and ended up buying a villa right in the middle of the village. We were actually there when Madeleine went missing and the next day I did help the parents search for her. It was the saddest, saddest thing and I get so upset when people accuse them because they were haunted and it's just such an awful thing to happen. I get very cross at the opinions that they killed her - I mean, it just didn't happen.

Digger: They made one small mistake.

Carol: I know and a lot of people have made that mistake. But it's only like sitting in your garden really. They were very close. It's five years on and they still haven't found her and I wonder if we ever will. I pray that one day she'll turn up. She's been away from them longer than they had her. But you do hear of people coming back thirty years later so let's hope it happens. Before I die, I'd love to know what happened to her.
What makes the Hawkes family more interesting, is the fact that several of them are friends with several members of the Murat/Eveleigh family.

That may be simply because Carol and Len Hawkes have had property in Luz for more than 3 decades. Perhaps they just know each other from there.

However, in view of the way the T9 tried to point the finger at RM, doesn't that make Carol's stance towards the McCanns seem very, well... generous?

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So now we have:

Jo Youle, [chief exec of Missing People]

friends with

The Hawkes family [who own property in PDL, and were there at the time, were involved in the searches and are supportive of the McCanns]

who are friends with

the Murat family.

Here is a photo of Len Hawkes:




[Something about him reminds me of "Cooper-man" - maybe it's just the hair and teeth. I shared this thought with someone else who disagrees with me, so I'll leave it at that!]

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Also interesting to note: The Hawkes Family and Cliff Richard are connected.

Here's a link to a video uploaded by Chesney Hawkes:

http://seenive.com/v/958123767014604800


Note the caption, "Cliff Richard in the back."
It appears to show Chesney in a car accompanied by Sir Cliff.

They are also connected through a Charity called the White Lodge Centre.
Its website, http://www.whitelodgecentre.co.uk/about-us/our-patrons lists its patrons as follows:


Bernard and Gill Cribbins
Sir Cliff Richard OBE
Penelope Keith OBE, DL
Philip Hammond MP
Guy Beringer
Dr Jean Bowyer FRCP, FRCPCH
Chesney and Krissy Hawkes
Max Clifford
Gemma Bissix
Bonita Norris
Diana Moran

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Then of course there was the Missing People's recent Anniversary Gala. Amongst the prizes being auctioned were:

Lot 24
Two VIP tickets to see the one and
only Chesney Hawkes plus much
more!
If Chesney Hawkes is your ‘one and only’ then this is a
must-have prize for you – two VIP tickets to the star’s gig
in Southport on Friday 14 March 2014, including backstage
passes, a meet and greet with a photo opportunity and a
song dedicated to you from the stage on the night.
Travel not included.
Donated by: Chesney Hawkes
Minimum bid: £500
Lot 26
Meet and greet with
Sir Cliff Richard in Paris
Congratulations are in order if you win these two tickets
to see Cliff in concert in Paris, plus a private meet and
greet, and a signed copy of Cliff History: The Authorised
Photographic Memoir.
We are offering two top-price Mezzanine tickets at the
L’Olympia, Paris, on Monday 2 June 2014 – the last leg of
his Still Reelin’ and A-Rockin’ tour. Winners will be invited
to the sound check before the show and will be able to
meet Sir Cliff.
Accommodation and travel not included.
Donated by: Sir Cliff Richard
Minimum bid: £1,000
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Important Note: I am merely pointing out connections and "coincidences". I'm not suggesting any wrong-doing by any of the above-mentioned people. I understand that Len Hawkes has been extremely ill recently, but appears to be doing well. He comes across as a thoroughly nice bloke and I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

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http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t8598-youle-chief-exec-missing-people-murats-hawkes#205216



It unfortunately does not take much of a link to "link" a good few of this lot.....and a lot of property owning in and around PDL. So is it possible that CF knew Robert Murat. Would a chef and wine snob be able to resist the oldest Port firm in the world??

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Post  Heisenburg Sun 19 Jun 2016, 8:49 am

Freedom wrote:I'd say that Antonella Lazzeri is treading on very thin ice by suggesting that Robert Murat was acquainted with Clement Freud.

I'd think R Murats lawyers will be taking more than a passing interest.
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Post  unreorganised Sun 19 Jun 2016, 8:52 am

I wonder if Freud was on nodding terms with Pamela Fenn?
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Post  Heisenburg Sun 19 Jun 2016, 9:42 am

There are two sides in this imo,the Mail have a story from one of Freuds alleged victims,not wishing to be left out the others are being fed by a spokeswoman possibly Clare Mitchell.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648608/My-childhood-journals-lost-innocence-hands-Clement-Freud-Victim-incapable-freeing-MP-drew-marital-home-subjected-years-cruel-abuse.html
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Post  Andrew Sun 19 Jun 2016, 10:19 am

Personally I don't know much about Michael Wright (or his side of the family), apart from that he allegedly spends all his time defending the Mc's on twitter. deleted no proof libellous.

Can it be ruled out that he himself is definitely not related to the Wright brothers (who owned the villa) in some capacity....

A stretch I know but I suppose you never know....
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Post  froggy Sun 19 Jun 2016, 10:28 am

Andrew wrote:Personally I don't know much about Michael Wright (or his side of the family), apart from that he allegedly spends all his time defending the Mc's on twitter. And clearly up to his neck in things as well.

Can it be ruled out that he himself is definitely not related to the Wright brothers (who owned the villa) in some capacity....

A stretch I know but I suppose you never know....

Probably difficult to determine. I think he was born/brought up on the Isle of Man, but it's not beyond the bounds of imagination that the other Wrights might be his cousins.

http://steelmagnolia-mccannarchives.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/madeleine-mccann-role-of-michael-wright.html


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Post  candyfloss Sun 19 Jun 2016, 10:28 am

Interesting that they have the emails......


Freud inquiry over link with McCanns

EMAILS sent by paedophile Sir Clement Freud to Kate and Gerry McCann may be submitted to an inquiry into historic child sex abuse



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Post  Heisenburg Sun 19 Jun 2016, 10:31 am

That would suggest they are available somewhere.
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Post  candyfloss Sun 19 Jun 2016, 10:44 am

Yes, emails and replies??





This is a good point, they are all strangely quiet at the accusations against their father..........



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I wonder if Matthew Freud has anything to say about the Sun & Express hinting his father was involved in Maddie's disappearance? #McCann

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Post  chirpyinsect Sun 19 Jun 2016, 10:59 am

I would think that CF was probably known to the authorities and his email traffic would be tracked. TPTB keep their eye on guys like him.

To us he may have appeared as a rather dotty elder uncle type (I just found him creepy) but as a member of Parliament his proclivities would be well known. Not a great leap to think he would have been monitored. All my own opinion of course.

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Post  Guest Sun 19 Jun 2016, 11:06 am

Here's a thought, and speculating. If CF knew he was "protected" at the highest levels, then he might not have been too worried about his emails and other correspondence, because he might have been well aware that he was untouchable.

However, with his death, that protection ceased.

What if Kate and Gerry also believed they were under the same umbrella of protection?
What if they took steps to use "anonymous" emails like hotmail or gmail, believing that their correspondence with the recipient was secure? And what if it was...until after his death?

Is it possible there is correspondence which the senders believed was secure, but which was retained on CF's computers, and which is now in the hands of investigators?


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Post  niklasericson Sun 19 Jun 2016, 11:07 am

dogs don't lie wrote:Another two added to the list....
The Nodderman
The Shiftyman
What next...?

The nightshirtman
Surprised

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Post  Freedom Sun 19 Jun 2016, 11:24 am

I like your description of nodding acquaintances, Andrew - even I as a hermit have a few of those so I hope that they don't get up to anything illegal as I might get implicated too.

Len Hawkes is of course facing a charge of indecent assault going back to 1968 (!) .........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3314514/Tremeloes-stars-accused-sex-attack-girl-47-years-ago-Guitarist-bass-player-appear-court-assault-height-fame.html
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Post  candyfloss Sun 19 Jun 2016, 12:08 pm

Canine Truth ‏@K9Truth  · 2m2 minutes ago  

Extraordinary diary of Freud victim reveals that he also slept with her mother, who treated her abominably.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648608/My-childhood-journals-lost-innocence-hands-Clement-Freud-Victim-incapable-freeing-MP-drew-marital-home-subjected-years-cruel-abuse.html

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Post  Mimi Sun 19 Jun 2016, 5:43 pm

Andrew wrote:Personally I don't know much about Michael Wright (or his side of the family), apart from that he allegedly spends all his time defending the Mc's on twitter. deleted no proof libellous.

Can it be ruled out that he himself is definitely not related to the Wright brothers (who owned the villa) in some capacity....

A stretch I know but I suppose you never know....

I believe the Wrights are Cambridge based.  One is a Councillor for Littleport Parish, East Cambs. He owns 5 properties in Littleport.  He also has an interest in two businesses with his brother (well one anyway). Eagle Home Interiors in Ely and A. N. & P. A. J. Wright Property.
http://www.eastcambs.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Wright%20180515_0.pdf

The other brother (PAJW) has a double glazing business in Ely which is easy enough to Google.

One had trouble with his son in 2004
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/son-jailed-arson-attack-dads-home/story-22447300-detail/story.html

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