Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
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Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
There was always chat/rumour/myth or whatever over the years that Gerry McCann didn't have any credit cards. He did.
Frances who?
Never heard of her either until I started reading the below link last night (and fell asleep). Just finished off reading it all. Copied over some of the bits about his credit cards.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FRANCES_KENNAH.htm
Transaction details for 2 MasterCard credit cards used by Gerry McCANN ; this has not been completed as per the conversation between Detective Superintendent Stuart PRIOR and Head of UKCA Frances KENNAH.
Dear Ms Ferreira
Request for mutual legal assistance relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann
I am writing further to my letter dated 5th March 2008 and your letters dated 14th and 27th March concerning your request for banking evidence relating to Gerald McCann.
In my letter dated 5th March 2008, I asked for clarification of the basis upon which you made the request for access to transaction Mr McCann's Mastercard credit card accounts for a 6 month period. In your letter dated 14th March 2008 you explained that the reason for the request was to enable the investigation team to identify if there were any unknown motives behind the disappearance of Madeleine or identify any individual or individuals responsible for her disappearance. I remain concerned about the basis upon which you seek evidence relating to 6 months transactions, beginning 1st April 2007 (6 weeks prior to Madeleine's disappearance).
When officers from Leicestershire Constabulary met with the Portuguese case team they were informed that the request for banking evidence arose as a result of a reported sighting of Mr McCann at a cash machine whilst talking on a mobile telephone, following Madeleine's disappearance. The Portuguese team were therefore concerned to ascertain whether the cash machine transaction and the call were related and whether they linked to Madeleine's disappearance.
As you know, in considering requests for coercive measures the Secretary of State must consider necessity and proportionality. On the basis of the information before me, the request for evidence relating to Mr McCann's Mastercard accounts for a 6 month period or, at least in the first instance, refine your request to a period immediately prior to and following the day of the alleged sighting, I would be more than happy to look at this part of the request again.
In the meantime, 4 tranches of evidence were sent to you via DHL on 9th, 16th, 23rd and 28th may 2008 and I would be grateful if you could confirm receipt.
I look forward to hearing from you
Yours sincerely
FR Kennah
Frances Kennah
Head, UK Central Authority
Page 58 XXII ? please justify the request by reference to what is being alleged in relation to these cards. Please explain why you are seeking access to the transaction data for 6 months and why only these credit cards? I have to consider issues or proportionality in relation banking information before I can nominate a court to hear this evidence.
Frances who?
Never heard of her either until I started reading the below link last night (and fell asleep). Just finished off reading it all. Copied over some of the bits about his credit cards.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FRANCES_KENNAH.htm
Transaction details for 2 MasterCard credit cards used by Gerry McCANN ; this has not been completed as per the conversation between Detective Superintendent Stuart PRIOR and Head of UKCA Frances KENNAH.
Dear Ms Ferreira
Request for mutual legal assistance relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann
I am writing further to my letter dated 5th March 2008 and your letters dated 14th and 27th March concerning your request for banking evidence relating to Gerald McCann.
In my letter dated 5th March 2008, I asked for clarification of the basis upon which you made the request for access to transaction Mr McCann's Mastercard credit card accounts for a 6 month period. In your letter dated 14th March 2008 you explained that the reason for the request was to enable the investigation team to identify if there were any unknown motives behind the disappearance of Madeleine or identify any individual or individuals responsible for her disappearance. I remain concerned about the basis upon which you seek evidence relating to 6 months transactions, beginning 1st April 2007 (6 weeks prior to Madeleine's disappearance).
When officers from Leicestershire Constabulary met with the Portuguese case team they were informed that the request for banking evidence arose as a result of a reported sighting of Mr McCann at a cash machine whilst talking on a mobile telephone, following Madeleine's disappearance. The Portuguese team were therefore concerned to ascertain whether the cash machine transaction and the call were related and whether they linked to Madeleine's disappearance.
As you know, in considering requests for coercive measures the Secretary of State must consider necessity and proportionality. On the basis of the information before me, the request for evidence relating to Mr McCann's Mastercard accounts for a 6 month period or, at least in the first instance, refine your request to a period immediately prior to and following the day of the alleged sighting, I would be more than happy to look at this part of the request again.
In the meantime, 4 tranches of evidence were sent to you via DHL on 9th, 16th, 23rd and 28th may 2008 and I would be grateful if you could confirm receipt.
I look forward to hearing from you
Yours sincerely
FR Kennah
Frances Kennah
Head, UK Central Authority
Page 58 XXII ? please justify the request by reference to what is being alleged in relation to these cards. Please explain why you are seeking access to the transaction data for 6 months and why only these credit cards? I have to consider issues or proportionality in relation banking information before I can nominate a court to hear this evidence.
Andrew- Posts : 13074
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Re: Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
Snipped from the same link by Frances:
Page 41 ? we have concerns about the approach to Brian Healy, Kate McCann?s father and the suggested line of questioning. As currently drafted, we do not feel there is sufficient connection between what is alleged and what is being requested. Can you assist?
So what was alleged and what was requested..?
Page 41 ? we have concerns about the approach to Brian Healy, Kate McCann?s father and the suggested line of questioning. As currently drafted, we do not feel there is sufficient connection between what is alleged and what is being requested. Can you assist?
So what was alleged and what was requested..?
Andrew- Posts : 13074
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Re: Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
How did you find that Andrew, 10 years on this and I have never seen that before. It is very interesting.
I will put it in the PJ/OP Grange section.
I will put it in the PJ/OP Grange section.
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Re: Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
I was just having a leisurely read of it last night.
I'm not sure where the whole 'Gerry didn't have any credit cards' originated from, but it morphed into a 'fact' over the years.
I always found it odd that he didn't and didn't believe he didn't. (too many didn't's)
I'm not sure where the whole 'Gerry didn't have any credit cards' originated from, but it morphed into a 'fact' over the years.
I always found it odd that he didn't and didn't believe he didn't. (too many didn't's)
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Re: Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
Iirc......was the issue not ......originally a comment concerning the mortgage and any card connected to it,which may not have shown up?
Well maybe jatyk2 are correct and we really don't know what we're talking about
Well maybe jatyk2 are correct and we really don't know what we're talking about
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Re: Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
I can't actually remember, Bampots.
There was mention of Gerry's credit cards being stolen in his wallet (that was never stolen), when that nonsense story came to light... but I do recall there was a lot of 'chat' in the past about him not actually owning credit cards.
Maybe somebody else will remember...
There was mention of Gerry's credit cards being stolen in his wallet (that was never stolen), when that nonsense story came to light... but I do recall there was a lot of 'chat' in the past about him not actually owning credit cards.
Maybe somebody else will remember...
Andrew- Posts : 13074
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Re: Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
Here's another link for the refusal of credit cards. I do remember though talk of no credit cards being spoken of many times early on. Was it in Goncalo's book perhaps or an interview of his, just guessing...
http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/mccann-case-home-office-refused.html
Still looking for it.
http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/mccann-case-home-office-refused.html
Still looking for it.
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Re: Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
Found it - it is in the PJ files and that is why I think I remember Goncalo mentioning it.
Background information Kate McCann
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There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individual maintains an account open with the same bank or credit card accounts for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this kind of search.
Background Information Gerald McCann
There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individuals maintains an open account with the same bank or a credit card for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this type of research.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MCCANNS_BACKGROUND.htm
Background information Kate McCann
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There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individual maintains an account open with the same bank or credit card accounts for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this kind of search.
Background Information Gerald McCann
There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individuals maintains an open account with the same bank or a credit card for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this type of research.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MCCANNS_BACKGROUND.htm
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Re: Frances Kennah and Gerry's Credit Cards
candyfloss wrote:Found it - it is in the PJ files and that is why I think I remember Goncalo mentioning it.
Background information Kate McCann
[snipped]
There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individual maintains an account open with the same bank or credit card accounts for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this kind of search.
Background Information Gerald McCann
There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individuals maintains an open account with the same bank or a credit card for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this type of research.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MCCANNS_BACKGROUND.htm
He did have 2 Creditcards.....but he didn't have any Creditcards?
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