General Election Discussion - before and after the event

Labour has just won the last seat, Kensington, which hasn't been labour for ages, by just 20 votes! It was a strong conservative seat so well done to labour there.

Esther McVey won her seat in Tatton.





Esther McVey, the former Employment Minister, has been elected as the new MP for Tatton with 58.6% of the vote and an overall majority of 14,787. The turnout was 72.4% in what is historically a Tory stronghold.

More on link..


http://www.wilmslow.co.uk/news/article/15857/general-election-2017-esther-mcvey-wins-tatton-seat

Well said...

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One of the most extreme political entities in the British Isles, the 8 MPs of the DUP, is to wag the tail of Mrs May's minority Government

There's actually 10 of them!

Yes, that was a tweet from about 12 hours ago, so all results weren't in.

I`m not surprised to hear about the characters of the two aides who have resigned.

Hearing Katie Perrier interviewed, she said they were arrogant and aggressive, even arguing and countering ministers that had been serving for 20 years as if they were the leaders of the conservative party. Sounds like they were a couple of rotweillers.

It sort of confirms that Theresa May doesn`t know what she`s talking about - she just acts as a ventriloquist`s dummy, robotically churning out platitudes and scripts that have been written for her. All she needs is a good memory - mind you - she didn`t have a good memory when it came to the manifesto.

She is no good at discussion. I`ve always had a feeling that she does not know what she`s talking about.

I really can`t understand why TB has suddenly dashed to her side - I thought he was UKIP. Maybe it`s because her daddy was a vicar., so she must be a good person.

Just been reading about the petition against this Tory DUP deal, it is at almost 700,00 in less than 24 hours.  The story here is the 300,,00 reached in just 12 hours. 


Almost 300,000 people sign petition against the Tory-DUP deal in just 12 hours
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-results-dup-conservative-theresa-may-petition-deal-northern-ireland-a7783021.html


Will she be able to hang on, she is very much damaged and a weak PM now with no power.  Is she right to carry on, she knows all the plotting going on against her, and she also knows they are saying she should only stay in the interim to keep things stable for a while, so why on earth would you stay in those circumstances.  Why prolong the agony why not just go.

Should we have a leader's election or perhaps even another General Election to try and sort this mess out?

I think she will go. She can't communicate and her judgement is dreadful - what a terrible, mean spirited manifesto. I think she'll be gone by the Autumn, hopefully to be replaced by someone who's   more of a team player.

All of her own making I know,  and she does deserve it.....but how horrible it must feel to have everyone plotting against you wanting you out.  I would be inclined to tell them to stuff their job, and leave with some dignity instead of waiting to be pushed out.

Matt cartoon in the Sunday Telegraph

Sunday Times story tomorrow, with the poll on should she stand down...

Sunday Times, 5 cabinet Ministers urge Boris to topple May....

The Observer comment at the top

No, no, no - not Boris Johnson - anyone but him or that awful Defence fellow. He`s a war monger and will believe any lie to justify attacking Syria. I`ve even heard him promoting the white helmets. He says awful things about Bashar Al Assad and also about Vladimir Putin - in fact believes all the garbage the yanks spout out. He will also back Saudi Arabia. He has no idea about diplomacy and is the last person to even have been given the foreign office. I wouldn`t trust him one iota.

Beware the fool.

It`s too late in the day to go changing the person to lead us out of the EU - unless David Davis does the negotiating.

This is getting worse by the day - I can see we are going to be in a worse place than we were before the referendum. It`s even looking as though this whole scenario was planned to keep us in the EU and for immigration to continue at it`s present rate. Next thing will be revolution and troops on the streets if we don`t stop free movement of people. It`s what the referendum was about. The public will go apesh*t.

Please not Boris. He is a lying scoundrel in my opinion and don't consider him trustworthy or reliable.
Amber Rudd, David Davies and Michael Fallon are names mentioned in the FT. I think Ken Clarke would be the best elder statesman type to take over, certainly very experienced and would have good knowledge - would he be considered too old?

Mimi wrote:It`s too late in the day to go changing the person to lead us out of the EU - unless David Davis does the negotiating.

This is getting worse by the day - I can see we are going to be in a worse place than we were before the referendum.  It`s even looking as though this whole scenario was planned to keep us in the EU and for immigration to continue at it`s present rate.  Next thing will be revolution and troops on the streets if we don`t stop free movement of people.  It`s what the referendum was about.  The public will go apesh*t.

I did suggest this very thing Mimi to friends the other day. Makes you wonder if Cameron deliberately ducked out and TM brought in knowing her weaknesses. Did she fall on her own sword to hamper the Brexit situation?

Then let in Boris to finally put it to bed,who the hell would want to negotiate with that buffoon.

I think it's not so much her as her alliance with the DUP. They are the mirror-image of his views. Creationists, anti-Catholic, sexual morals of the Victorians - anti-gay, anti-abortion - and deniers of climate change. If a party were ever tailor-made for a person...

Dee Coy wrote:I think it's not so much her as her alliance with the DUP. They are the mirror-image of his views. Creationists, anti-Catholic, sexual morals of the Victorians - anti-gay, anti-abortion - and deniers of climate change. If a party were ever taylor made for a person...

And you really have to laugh at this quote from TB in reply to Jeanmonroe's post.



That's all that Eswin Poots wants to achieve. Surely on this forum we are all against indoctrination - and want our children to be told about alternative views, and the evidence for each theory?



Otherwise we are in danger of moving towards totalitarianism.

I'm lost for words - which is a blessing - after that comment!