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Dee Coy wrote: and would certainly explain the cover-up and whitewash.

In what way?

caricature wrote:

froggy wrote:

caricature wrote:

candyfloss wrote:
Please I ask to those who can see it, do not copy it over here.

Why?, and DeeCoy,is it to do with the description of genitals,KM - rest deleted

Suffice it to say its a plausible explanation for why things have developed the way they have.

Hmmm.

Could also  be a load of rubbish.

No doubt.

Freedom wrote: I joined originally in my real name. I don't recall having to supply lots of information. You choose what details (if any) you want to input. I had a bit of grief from someone on a group (nothing to do with the McCanns) and I felt a bit vulnerable as my name is a little unusual so I changed it.

The only time I've needed to say what my real name is when contacting old school friends or work colleagues. I send them a private message to say who I am and then we communicate with my alias.

Thanks for that.  I was put off initially when I looked at the "join" page some months ago as it was asking for past school, work places and other personal info, info which I wasn't happy about giving out as I've heard such horrendous stories on these forums as to people being hounded i.e. Brenda Leyland that it put me off joining Facebook (and Twitter).

I will look at it again and hopefully won't have to give out much info to join.

Ok just for arguments sake the way back is correct,why this particular child,why this particular country and why at the end of April or early May?

@ DFM - I just pm'd you.

I won't copy it over because it is not very nice.  But sadly, it makes a lot of sense.  Given some of the very dubious "family photos" the McCanns have put into the pubic domain.  If anyone REALLY wants to see it I can PM it to them.

BTW I'm not sure it should be on this thread.  It's really a different topic and should have its own thread.

Can you pm it to me resistor,its not images is it?

Jeez. Why so much sensitivity to a very obvious elephant in the room? Anyone who thinks what happened to Madeleine was pleasant is away with the fairies. It wasn't.

AndyB wrote:Jeez. Why so much sensitivity to a very obvious elephant in the room? Anyone who thinks what happened to Madeleine was pleasant is away with the fairies. It wasn't.

Quite agree,put it the lounge.

caricature wrote:Can you pm it to me resistor,its not images is it?

No, it's not images. I've PM'd you a snip of the post Caricature.

AndyB wrote:Jeez. Why so much sensitivity to a very obvious elephant in the room? Anyone who thinks what happened to Madeleine was pleasant is away with the fairies. It wasn't.

No, it wasn't, but it's not the sort of thing you actually want to see written down on an open forum IYSWIM.

I'm happy to send anyone the comment by private message too. 

I certainly agree that it shouldn't be on the open forum; there's only one person's word for it that he heard it from a PJ officer.

No body? how can a comment as such be made.

Yes, how would anyone know?

Sorry, everyone. Posting on my phone because i'm out and away from my Laptop. Will respond more later,but just to say put on this thread because I thought this explains where Steve is coming from with his investigation into the WBM, and sheds light on why he has persued the 'preplanned/cover up' explanation.

It is disgusting, but horrifically explanatory. Not saying I adhere to it, mind.

Is it possible JG has the inside track of what happened to M and the screen shot of the 30 April is a warning to him and others that the TPTB can change, alter or modify any data or info.
Compare Jim's fortunes with the Leicestershire Police Chief Constable of 2007. Matt Baggott.

Jim Gamble

Head of CEOP.

Given Queens Police Medal January 2008.

JG Applies to be Chief Constable Northern Ireland - rejected.

CEOP downsized and merged - JG sidelined.

Now sad man on twitter.


Matt Baggott - Chief Constable Leicestershire.

Given CBE January 2008.

Applies to be Chief Constable Northern Ireland, gets the appointment over JG

Given Knighthood 2015,now Sir Matt

It would appear Matt was given a CBE even though he was running an illegal operation in Portugal.

JJ wrote: It would appear Matt was given a CBE even though he was running an illegal operation in Portugal.

Could you expand on this please JJ ?

Sorry JJ, hopeless at c/p meant to include this link in post.


http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/matt-baggott-one-of-his-big-regrets-was.html

Anyone else get the feeling that this whole charade is much more about TPTB/various agencies then the M's/Tapas 7?

I'm thinking along the lines of lack of action from authorities like in the Baby P and Victoria Climbie. Could something like this account for a lot of what we are seeing in the case?

I really should know this but is there a known date on the infamous CATS file?

I don't want to give misinformation, but wasn't it 2002  ??    Please anyone correct me if I've got it wrong.

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Anyone else get the feeling that this whole charade is much more about TPTB/various agencies then the M's/Tapas 7?

I'm thinking along the lines of lack of action from authorities like in the Baby P and Victoria Climbie. Could something like this account for a lot of what we are seeing in the case?

I really should know this but is there a known date on the infamous CATS file?

An investigation into the "fund" could be slowing things up, if there are numerous people involved and money has gone overseas, it could take years to investigate as to where all the money has gone. Just my opinion of course.

Bluebell

On the OG/PJ section there is a "What were the Leicestershire Police doing in PDL on Saturday 5th May 07" which helps explain things.

But basically there are very strict guidelines which all police must obey before conducting operations in a foreign country and which must be signed off by a Chief Constable.

Baggott did not do this, so when his officers met the Macs on Saturday 5th May, they broke Portuguese law in several ways.

There are emails and other documents which prove it and imo is why OG is stalling.

Then there is the fingering of Robert Murat by Lori Campbell and you realise what dishonest Police Officers Leicestershire has in its ranks.

They never thought any emails or documents regarding Madeleine would see the light of day.

Leicestershire Police have done everything possible to derail the PJ.

This is a provable fact.

If you need any further info, please ask,

Thanks @ JJ.

I thought maybe there was something 'official' I had missed about this gentleman, something along the private line, so thank you for the clarification.

It has always seemed apparent the behaviour of the Leicestershire police in all of this is very open to question . IMO of course.

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Anyone else get the feeling that this whole charade is much more about TPTB/various agencies then the M's/Tapas 7?

I'm thinking along the lines of lack of action from authorities like in the Baby P and Victoria Climbie. Could something like this account for a lot of what we are seeing in the case?

But the M's haven't half milked it though.