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Post  Counttoten Thu 14 Mar 2024, 2:05 pm

yeah, and having dirty video's is in many countries not even a crime. only specific content is restricted.
it is quite a large market too, certainly on the internet, not even a need to go to the dark web.

and luckily most wachters are not the kind that do a replay in private settings.

i think the police is just the lucky party in this matter of the missing tapes, think how horrible a job, because they all have to be looked at, to see if no criminal content is hidden in it.

also if they are nasty, dirty or even to be called indecent is mostly depending on your own take on the matter. most are made by adults with consent. and that is where it will stop for the law.

and the law can not see what is not there to see. so it is only over the top for this witness, and it does not sound even much as a witness in these 5 cases. the statement does not tell much usable for the 5 cases at hand.

it only use can be to having a baseline to all the stories already in the news.

we will see if they bring real news after the lunch is done.

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Post  Counttoten Thu 14 Mar 2024, 7:13 pm

i have not found anything else that was in attention of the court today.

but the a local news outlet has put some questions to hcw about a raid with many armed police officers on the kennelblick allotments and ralph h.

this is the link to the full text article. i will only put the reaction of hcw through deeple for translation under it.

https://regionalheute.de/braunschweig/maddie-fall-staatsanwaltschaft-widerspricht-englischen-medien-braunschweig-1710433494/

regionalHeute.de enquired with the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office. Senior public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters, who is in charge of the case, was unable to confirm the rumours, however.


According to him, there are currently no searches or similar measures in connection with the Maddie case. He had only just spoken to the police investigating the case shortly before the phone call. He was not aware of any such operation. He also could not explain where the statements in the media had come from. However, the issue would continue to cause great emotion, especially in England. As usual, the public prosecutor's office does not comment on details relating to the investigation into the Maddie case.

The Chief Public Prosecutor only admitted that the investigation would of course continue. This could of course also involve questioning witnesses. "That's part of an investigation," said Wolters.


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Post  Counttoten Fri 15 Mar 2024, 8:14 am

it would not be the cb trials, if even episode 4 has no dirt to throw around.

the video with the witness christian post, a name that is mostly out of the stories in german news outlets, is made around christmas 2023.

christian post must have said he met cb around 10 times. and his substance to declare cb no mister good guy, a free translation of a clean bird, because he always was in a sports jacket and driving often a jaguar.and that style did not fit by cp his opinion with the sloppy state of cb his living quarters, at the little finca. yeah, we cannot have that of course. very suspicious such habits.

the wodka spiked oranges have survived in the witness statement too. and when cp did cb a favor to go to the little finca near pdl, he told, when he arrived cb his then girlfriend marina was already there, and had packed already some bags.
it is unclear if cp indeed truly looked on a screen to bits of a video, the germans got it more as cp looked at the titles, who had been written on the boxes with the cd-rom's. titles that suggested anal sex, lesbian sex and sex between people and animals. i can not find a remark that it also contained child porn, as the uk media supposedly heard.

cp selected about a third or a fourth of the cd collection to throw out, because the family he had to handed to had children. rumors on non media sources tell this family must have been the piro family.
yeah, the same family that lent cb the light coloured, with the bamboo coloured stripe on the lower parts, vw campervan when he got out of jail just before christmas of 2006.
it was the lady of house piro that ended up in the video around the search of the dam last year.
the family p. is part of many stories we have seen before, even very conflicted ones.

going by german news outlets, the court decided that cp is not a important witness to the cases at hand, only a witness that could tell about cb his lifestyle. some remark about the dirty thoughts of cb, but there is no offence in thinking dirty in the books of law.

and i cannot find a direct quotation, but the german news outlets like to suggest fall maddie also made a short appearance, cp supposedly has told that cb told him he often climbed in to apartment buildings of the same kind as the one from where maddie disappeared.

and as earlier mentioned, episode 4 was to expect to handle some of the remarks of the defense team. well that escalated quickly.

it was about the documents already known by us as the book, and the book one, that are part of the raid on the old box factory in 2016. the defense is of the meaning these findings had been the result of a unlawful, cq made to fit reason to get entry to that property and terrains. the defense is ofthe opinion that it was fabricated as part of the inga case, known in germany as fall inga, a case from 2015 of the missing young female child inga gehricke. so the defense wanted the leader of that case at the time to take the stand. and remarked that the file about the findings during the raid have been made 4 days after it happened.
also the defense wanted also to have the witness that is a former bka worker to take the stand about the supposed interfering with the hearing room, cb had to use to be in contact with his defense team.

also the defense wants a expert that was used in the 2005 rape case to take the stand again in this trial, as far as i can get it about the single hair that is said contained cb his dna.

all these questions made the prosecution mad, this all was not for these trials, but the maddie case, and the prosecution would not freely agree to let these people take the stand, so it is now up to the court and her judges to decide if a request is given the go a head or not, we have to wait until april 3, 2024, what is a wednesday. for april it will scale up to even twice a week a day in the courts. in apreil all on wednesday and friday.

the prosecution understood the defense as having said the police made up the found stories, but that was not true, because they found out cb had the stories years before on his email.

also a remark of the prosecution was that cb had bragged to a former convict when both had been in jail about two of his actions against women.

and no worries after this spectacle, the lead judge asked the both parties to see if they had some free dates in october. because as it looks 29 days before the summer would not be enough.
and yes, the germans want to have their holidays too, so there is often weeks nothing will happen at all.

it also is clear, the german news outlets have read the works of the uk news outlets, to learn what happened in germany. they must have been very surprised they missed that party of the raid. but all are put in a phone call to the world famous hcw, and who told them there is nothing going on by his knowledge. and that could be right of course, i mean sending a full arrest team is usually the kind of action the prosecution officer had to give permission before it can happen.

no local sources, pro or amateur did notice anything, so not even a little bit of gossip, so it gets a bit complicated how the sun got the story and the citations of the supposed witnesses.

the court attracts still many public and media appearances, so there are still some exclusives to expect. maybe even a easter special.

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Post  AlloAllo Sat 16 Mar 2024, 12:56 pm

When will the british media get off their hobbyhorse of it was CB what dunit.

https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/madeleine-mccann-suspect-opens-up-in-court

Madeleine McCann suspect's friend opens up in court after saying he's '100% certain' of culprit

By George Bunn

Published: 15/03/2024 - 08:33

Christian Post, a former acquaintance of Brueckner, testified against him in the trial at Braunschweig regional court on Thursday.

The 56-year-old who now lives in Cambodia had previously told the press he was "100 per cent certain" that Brueckner was the culprit.

George should put his bun back in the oven it's under done.

The current trial is not about the Maddie case why does the media keep pretending it is?

A reminder of the german criminal profiler who spoke when the news about CB first broke, CB looks like the sort of person who could kidnap and murder. You could say that of us all, by virtue it doesn't make us all criminals.

I can understand someone saying he looked like a tourist, tell tale signs, what does a kidnapping murderer look like? Don't tell me, Christian Bruckner.


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Post  dogs don't lie Sat 16 Mar 2024, 1:20 pm

Clicks, views... money?

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Post  AlloAllo Sat 16 Mar 2024, 1:26 pm

Archive from one british media outlet:

Madeleine McCann suspect's friend opens up in court after saying he's '100% certain' of culprit

Madeleine McCann suspect's friend has home raided as armed police hunt information

Madeleine McCann suspect's friend threw 80 sex tapes owned by convicted rapist in the bin

Madeleine McCann investigation to receive £100k grant as detectives handed

Madeleine McCann suspect 'had van and two cars scrapped' after missing girl

Madeleine McCann suspect receives chilling warning from friend hoping that he is

Madeleine McCann suspect 'filmed himself abusing old woman and young girl in

Madeleine McCann suspect's sickening sex crime allegations revealed in court

McCann suspect's workplace to be DEMOLISHED over fears it's become a sick shrine

Madeleine McCann: Expat claims of plot to sell a youngster to childless couple

Madeleine McCann suspect 'had surgery to disguise identity' after alleged rape

Madeleine McCann suspect's trial SUSPENDED after shock claims about

Madeleine McCann suspect caught mocking police ahead of sex crime trial

Madeleine McCann prime suspect moans about 'awful conditions' in jail



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Post  AlloAllo Sat 16 Mar 2024, 1:31 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Clicks, views... money?

This is true, what became of the code of ethics in journalism?

https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp

They should be made accountable for the trash they report. How can anyone believe a single word published?

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Post  AlloAllo Sat 16 Mar 2024, 1:38 pm

Pal of Maddie suspect Christian Brueckner tracked down & vows to never help cops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss3NaziRi5c

Something very odd going on here.

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Post  Counttoten Sat 16 Mar 2024, 2:57 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Clicks, views... money?

most do not get money in by abo's or other payments per view, so that means they only can earn to let you look at adds.

most likely adds of companies that do not mind where their adds end up with, only more eyes, means for them more potential customers.

you see more and more that the adds start to become the censor of the words, still not so much in the tabloid news outlets, but i know of multiple forums, where you cannot type words that imply a nasty association. so you can not write child abuse, or in the eyes of the adds owners very deviant words as sexual abuse of children, so that has to become sa, or you get *advertiser censored* in stead of the real words.

like in the old days, lets just cover the nasty stuff up, by not talking about it. well that did solved nothing much then. why would it help now.

the daily mail who got the unrestricted words in court from the prosecution out online, is the other side of it.

also the days that madeleine was world wide the goose with the golden eggs look to be over. only for who already showed interest are the ones who find the production easier, that is ai on your service.

the first trial days it took quite some time to even find a news outlet that had it on the home page, most only if you clicked the regional news, or somewhere down under, and most i only coulds find something after their lunch break.

so the common visitor on all these news outlets would not look that far. so outside the region it does still get some attention, but mostly as this happened too today, it is in germany certainly not in any way hot news.

and even on the red tops in the uk, it is no longer the headlines it was. a direct search trough google makes it easy, but through their own search thingy you hardly get results.

now the only thing, who dares to tell the reporters who write that stuff it?

and they made it into quite an adventure this week, now germany has 8 to 10 lost boys in blue with the big bazooka's out there, without a warrant, yeah, of course without, how will you get that warrant without asking your prosecution officer for one. and the one most known in the case, does not know it happened. you would not expect that of course, but hcw neigter!

and now they found the unfindable, lost boy and he wants not to talk to his hero's of the euro's.

and the only new element after 2021 is that they found out his name is ralph, the rest was already out there. at least the bits they not have brood out themselves.

but we cannot really understand how hard it is these days to stay a reporter, ai is on the run in, and okay you get these little mistakes as portugal to be called an island, but that is just a minor mistake we have to learn to live with.
so we cannot really get mad, on the last of the reporting units of flesh and blood.

so what will be the next headline; ralph h. denies ever been on the island of portugal ever. does he speak the truth?


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Post  AlloAllo Tue 19 Mar 2024, 12:52 pm

What a farce.

https://www.gbnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-friend-osuspect-christian-brueckner-confession
Published: 16/03/2024

It has been claimed that the German equivalent to the FBI, the BKA, wanted to talk to Ralph H about the missing girl. However, in a a blow to the ongoing investigation he made a categorical refusal.

He told reporters: "I will never speak to you, I will never speak to the police. I will never speak to the state police, I will never speak to the BKA."


He told reporters "I will never speak to you"?

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Post  Counttoten Tue 19 Mar 2024, 2:20 pm

at least they got a statement, curious what would be the pay out for that, it was to the sun!

and the money dealer of the sun are no longer that very generous, a few 100 euro's for at least one that was, albeit not in favor of the judges, a witness that did say words reflecting to these 5 cases to the sun.

the next one had a better deal, once a 1000, and a few 100 for the later ones, but they had not white out his facial features.

i still have not found a word of it really happening in germany. only german papers who nick this story from the uk news outlets, and a pres liaison officer of the prosecution aka the one and only hcw, no family from the writer hca, but looks gifted too, who had no idea what they have been talking about.
so it looks as if there are others out there in the uk (or places with more sunny spells), that have that talent too.

or had the names above the pieces just the lucky draw after they left the cage of their ai a moment unattended. you cannot be sure anymore these days.

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Post  AlloAllo Tue 19 Mar 2024, 8:39 pm

It used to be the Mirror official sources confided in to get the word across, now the Sun seems to be the go to rag for spreading the word.

Their word that is.

I wonder why.

The Sun's journalists, if they can be fairly called that, are for the most part freelance drifting from one rag to the next, all having a similar mindset as regards truth and accuracy. The same names crop-up year after year when the name Maddie is the exclusive headline, it could almost make the reader think something is not quite right with their style of reporting.

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Post  AlloAllo Tue 19 Mar 2024, 8:50 pm

Talk of the devil. I hear casting for the next James Bond is up for grabs.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26790269/germany-fbi-madeleine-mccann-christian-brueckner-van-clues/#:~:text=Madeleine%20McCann%20disappeared%2017%20years,are%20one%20and%20the%20same.

BEAST'S MOTOR Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Breuckner’s eerie van to be scoured for bombshell child-snatching clues by German FBI
Scroll down to view our exclusive pictures of Brueckner's creepy woodland lair

Rob Pattinson Jon Clarke Rainer Burkard

Published: 17:12, 19 Mar 2024

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Creepy woodland lair? If you say so.

The BKA should have a word with we buy any car, one of CBs vans must have been through their hands at some point.





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Post  Counttoten Tue 19 Mar 2024, 10:06 pm

yeah, when something is still there, it simply means nothing to see and get anymore.

remember the adventure of the scissors, part of the first aid kit every one travelling by car must have on board. and these kind of scissors are usually the most sturdy tool from it. well they never work well if you want to cut som bandages or gauze, but they do keep around.

i think the bka of two german states already have put multiple days in to raid all they with all that could fit in their story of the horrible suspect. even of it was just to be sure. and now they probably cannot even sleep, because the defence team is trying to get it all out.

i must say i liked the story some weeks ago much better, then this picture was used to illustrate that cb left vehicles on a scrapyard. quite a short lived lie if it still was at the old box factory.

i have no idea how the german judges put meaning to such daft media attention, over here it does reflect in the verdict with often years taken of from the jail time.

it must still hurt the reporting bodies, they did miss out in 2017 helge b. his first exclusive, at least that took out 3 years extra for us having to read the crap.
the others will at least nick this story. even abroad, only that usually can take a few days.

shame there are so little of the car nerds around, would be a great joke of this van was build after may 2007. but maybe that can explain the low quality of the picture used.

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Post  Counttoten Wed 20 Mar 2024, 9:35 pm

well the local media in braunschweig have asked the prosecution there about the story of the sun about the raid of the former neighbour ralph h, at the garden association kennelblick has happened, and it looks to be a full fantasy works by the sun.

there even is a video out , about the sun in research mode finding ralph h., does not mean much, because he presto ralph h. was at his property in kennelblick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss3NaziRi5c

but this is what the braunschweiger zeitung made public, translated with deepl;

Maddie case: Public prosecutor's office denies search in Braunschweig

Brunswick. Did the police surround a building at Kennelblick, as reported by the Sun? Brunswick's public prosecutor's office denies this.

The British tabloid "The Sun" reported on Wednesday about a recent development in the Madeleine McCann case, and several German media picked up on the article: a few days ago, heavily armed police officers allegedly surrounded a building in Braunschweig - near the arbour in the Kennelblick garden club that Christian B., the main suspect in the Maddie case, rented a few years ago.

A man who is said to have been an accomplice of Christian B. in previous burglaries lives in the house. The Sun quotes both the Federal Criminal Police Office as saying that investigators "urgently need to speak to this man about his relationship with Christian B." and a neighbour describing the police operation: Eight to ten police officers had surrounded the house at lunchtime and called out the name, but had not entered the house as they did not have a search warrant. The man's car had not been seen for several days.

Braunschweig public prosecutor's office: Reports lack any basis

When asked about the "Sun" report, Braunschweig's senior public prosecutor Christian Wolters told our newspaper: "We are still not commenting on our investigations, but there have been no searches." Reports of a surrounded house or property "lack any basis"

Christian B. has officially been considered the main suspect in the Madeleine McCann case since summer 2020. The Braunschweig public prosecutor's office assumes that Maddie was killed. Braunschweig was the 47-year-old's last place of residence in Germany - which is why the local public prosecutor's office is responsible. The suspect has multiple convictions as a sex offender and is currently in custody.

Christian B. is currently on trial at Braunschweig Regional Court: this trial is not about Madeleine McCann, but about various sexual offences in Portugal a few years ago. The media response is huge - British journalists are also on site every day of the trial.

link to original article, in german;
https://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/braunschweig/article241894200/Fall-Maddie-Staatsanwaltschaft-dementiert-Durchsuchung-in-Braunschweig.html

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Post  AlloAllo Thu 21 Mar 2024, 2:01 pm

I don't think you need be a genius to see through The Sun's make believe stories. The figment of an over active imagination that any crime novelist would envy. The sun should be entered for the Booker Prize novel category, it would win hands down.

The story is unbelievable.

A bit of true investigative journalism in the right quarters wouldn't go amiss. Mainstream media mixed with social media is a recipe for disaster, thank goodness for the ability to think for ourselves.

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Post  Counttoten Thu 21 Mar 2024, 2:26 pm

yeah, i cannot even dared to try to get the latest stunt about the vans.

and i can still not get my mind around, if it is because of this specific case, a kind of revenge for restricting in what could be written about it. or they really have left the plot.

as far is to find, hardly anyone of the names above such articles ever studied journalism, most can not even reach to call their musing that also.

but even without the obligations about what they cannot publish, this case could do with some real traditional sound journalist instead of ai and the odd reporter.
every time i start to think how much worse can it get, well they must be nearing china so deep the hole of desperation to keep the columns full.

when papers still have been just paper, you had simply a thinner paper, if the news was not delivering stuff. now they just get the can of porkies out.
well it cannot be that hard to get the humans out and the ai in, the result would not be different, but a fair bit cheaper. it is know they already do make use of it. so maybe they are just hanging on the last with jobs as a reporter. going by the output, they can hardly seen to mind to be replaced by a machine.

and it gets very mixed results in the public. if you ever dare. look in the comments under recent postings about this kind of stuff. some think even these pieces are the results of investigating journalists, who do a better job than the police. affraid

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Post  AlloAllo Thu 21 Mar 2024, 2:28 pm

Even factoring CB in the never ending Maddie's story is never going to be productive in terms of solving the case. He is only a bit part actor dragged into the mix for reasons yet to be determined. I strongly suspect reports are mostly invented by the British media to sensationalize an otherwise cold case.

Years have come and years have gone and still we are here looking for the truth behind Maddie's case. Some cyber sleuths think they have already solved the case by privately investigating erroneous detail, filling the gaps with imaginary happenings and inventing possible scenarios to fit the puzzle.

I can't see the case even near closure, not without further debate to unravel the mysterious gaps of knowledge. Without looking deeper into the loose ends, all the possible reasons why, what hope is there of getting nearer the truth?

As members of the public we are not in a position to act as working police officers but we can continue to scrutinize all the available evidence, if only to satisfy curiosity. Some have tried and think they know all the answers others, the more sceptical, can see beyond the attempted barriers imposed to halt further theorizing.

There are so many aspects of the case open to interpretation thanks to personal and professional experience of life. Case study can never only be face value, human emotions and actions always play a big role in how we behave. So far all I've seen across social media is individual known aspects of the case torn apart on face value, without consideration of the whys and wherefores, that's without the mischievous commentators adding their slant.

There is much to consider before contemplating CBs unlikely involvement.

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Post  AlloAllo Thu 21 Mar 2024, 2:36 pm


Counttoten wrote:and it gets very mixed results in the public. if you ever dare. look in the comments under recent postings about this kind of stuff. some think even these pieces are the results of investigating journalists, who do a better job than the police.

Some do think the investigative journalist of The Sun caliber do a better job than the police, some cyber sleuths think they know better or do a better job than the police.

It's happening more and more, it makes me sorry for the police who are only trying to do a job of work. What chance have they got up against their competitors who think they know better?

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Post  AlloAllo Sat 23 Mar 2024, 12:58 pm

I thought CB had been ruled out of any involvement in the disappearance of Inga Gehricke long ago, or did I misunderstand?  The British gutter press and associates seem desperate to link CB with the case of Maddie, going to great lengths in the process.

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/03/22/maddie-link-is-new-hunt-for-missing-inga-gehricke-linked-to-white-van-once-leased-by-chief-suspect-christian-brueckner/

MADDIE LINK: Is new hunt for missing Inga Gehricke linked to white van once leased by chief Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner?

EXCLUSIVE INVESTIGATION By Jon Clarke and Rainer Burkard in Saxony
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22 Mar, 2024 @ 17:10

FOR five days this month, around 70 police officers have scoured deep woodland around a charity facility that ran programmes for sex offenders in Germany.

They hope to find clues to what happened to five-year-old Inga Gehricke, often described as the ‘German Maddie’.

And it is not just that the two girls looked so similar that brought the comparison to Madeleine McCann, who vanished, age 3, during a family holiday in Portugal in 2005: both of them vanished at the beginning of May and both disappeared without almost a single trace.

In the case of Inga, she had been helping prepare for a family barbecue next to the Wilhelmshof facility, run by a church charity called Diakonie, which sits isolated in the heart of a forest, near the village of Uchtspringe, in Saxony

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Post  AlloAllo Sat 23 Mar 2024, 1:28 pm

I've just seen this other thread on the forum posted by Mimi which made me curious, 'Maddie recorded as dying on 3.5.2007'

It's still there on the ancestry forum although if you look deeper today there is more.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/242903760/madeleine-beth-mccann

It's very misleading, is that okay when talking ancestry hunt?

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Post  Counttoten Sat 23 Mar 2024, 2:30 pm

yeah, it is a different state where the case of inga gehricke (5 years) plays out, she it not often called the german maddie in germany, her case is known as fall inga.

she is missing from may 2, 2015. indeed from the wilhelmshof. from a quite private part of the institution that also has rehab facilities, mostly former junkies and people addicted to alcohol.
this institution is indeed from the diakonie, the german equal to the salvation army. it is hard to find of the rehab of sexoffenders and other former jailbirds for serious crimes are indeed at the same address.
there are more locations the diakonie uses in the area around and in uchtspringe, kreis stendal.

there is a separate area on the wilhelmshof that has housing for people who work there. inga's family was been before there, but not very often. it was just a getting together with friends and their children, inga's family made a last minute decision to stay for supper, that would be a bbq on a field that had a grill stand, all kind of these people walking on and of, helped in the kitchen, sometime between the start of the meal, and all the preparations inga walked from the grill area back to the house of the friends that lived there and was never seen again.

at first there was the idea she was just gotten lost in the woods, during looking for wood to put on the grill with the other children, and she walked away.
it was not that the people who had been in rehab mingled in the same area. all of then had to be in for their meal at that time too.

there could be public that had access to the woods, and even the terrains could be accesible. but it was mostly private property. more countryside than surrounded with a town setting.

cb was on the list to look a bit extra at, because of his past. that is not unusual, but as far as the information go, he had an accepted alibi for that day and the next, one of the days he had a kind of traffic accident with the van or car from his friend, and that was about a 70 km further away from the wilhelmshof.

at least every 3 to 4 months someone likes to talk cb in the scene there, but it never ended in so much suspicions. they usually talk the raid of his old boxfactory in as being part of the inga case, but that is never very officially said to be in a connection. not at the time in the local papers.
and there have been at that time many serves taken down with child porn, and cb already had a then pretty recent conviction for that, so it is hard to say what is hard intel and what is not.

the have searched in the woods behind the wilhelmshof in relation to inga again in the last weeks by the police of sachsen-anhalt not because they had fresh information, but more because it is a good season to do it. the last known even some days last week.

there is very little information, some cars seen, a hunter who heared a child calling out for daddy.

it is not known if she disapeared by getting lost on her own, or there is indeed a third party involved, nor who that could be.

the only connections to cb, has been long a letter written to a friend, later that was from a date after inga got lost, and the friend worked at the wilhelmshof and his earlier convictions. for the last bit, he is not exactly an exception in these kinds of crimes.

this news story plays around another van, a white mercedes sprinter van, and they are everywhere in europe, and there is spoken there must be one leased to cb from 2014 to 2015. no true dates of that contract. lease contracts are usually for multiple months, most often a full year, or multiple full years for the same car or van.

so at least that van can not be part of the 2007 case of madeleine.

and they like to mix things up, by putting a picture up from a old white different van , taken on the property at the old boxfactory terrain owned by cb. but that terrain had already the full attention of multiple police forces. the first raid by the police is now under dispute if it was done fully legal, the answer is to be expected on the next court day of april 3, 2024.

bild has already out that there will be another 12 episodes in court around the trial of the 5 cases already going on, these will mostly be after the summer holidays of the courts.
i will have to wait until i got them by mail from the court press news, bild does not tell if the time the court needs to decide about the motions of the defence team will have a influence on the date of april 3, or not. there are now 8 days in april on the agenda, 11 in may and 4 in june.

they have quite an overload in cases, so it is not easy to plan new dates in between the ones already officially on the roll.

i expect the uk media would not mind it at all. they will just rework the old stuff a bit, like the story around ralph h. only that name was new, there are already multiple interviews with the keeper there from 2021, who told he would certainly have notices a young girl during the 3 years cb rented a lot there. going by the age, the name of a girl was left out in the video, he supposed about was around 8,9 years of age. they are in german, and the you tube auto translations to english are simply gibberish at best.

cb himself had hardly a chance to get back to the old boxfactory or the garden association, he was most of the time already in jail, for older or newer convictions, or in portugal and italy.

and the picture of the white van is most likely from the famous visit of jon clarke himself, from the same time he found the scissors and tried to hand them in to the hcw during an interview.
at least half of the tabloids in the uk and germany had already people walking over that terrain.
also known as the creepy lair of the cb, or the secret liar.

and it must be a nice wet dream case for the uk tabloids, they have not to behave as they are used to when a case is on trial over there. the only complication is that germans speak german, even in their own courts. and it is no longer in fashion to learn german. so some take a seat in court, but hardly can grab what it is all about. and the translator they had in the ralph h video was not really top notch. lucky the guys have still their fantasies. no worries they will still manage their output to the public.

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Post  Counttoten Mon 25 Mar 2024, 9:44 am

there is an old video from 2020 made by bild, the german tabloid news outlet, that covers the story in their words of course, about how the findings on the old box factory terrain took place.

besides the link i will give the translation to the full video in english, lazy style of course through deepl, more and more video's on you tube have a possibility to view with a transcript next to it. what makes it much easier to translate, using auto translate on the video it self does not translate the transcripts also.
still it is a nice feature, because even when a video is taken down, you always have the words.

it is a bit of a try out, i only have before copied some bits, but lets see if the times also stay a true copy of what it is on youtube.

still it is an old video from 2020 already, but the information in it, is nice to have, the findings of the terrain in 2016 are now under dispute of the defense team.
we have no idea if these finding have a use or role in the now going on 5 cases and the trial they are part of, or any other case in future if there will is one.

the dispute is about the unlawful gathering of evidence, and if it happened as this reporter tells, as he was told by the witness who brought on the suspicious finds after his dog entered the terrain, i think the defence team has a point.

link to the video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMBxsEULV14

that won't work well, it is much to large, and bits are just junk translations that are not helping, so i will get only the part about the findings on the terrain from it, and will try to get the worst parts into translation.
who wants the full transcript, it is again in german only, but look down under the video, click more in the description and somewhere below you find the option to read with transcript.

23:46
yes, my colleague thilo scholtyseck has been researching here all day today and behind me you can still see the site
23:53
where the shepherd dog mix was finally found. a walker was stumbled on the bone parts
23:58
and a policewoman was called in and in her presence the bones from the dog were removed .
24:05
the bones of the German shepherd were recovered and a bag was found underneath with a functioning usb stick inside which
24:12
the officer then, described by the eyewitness, had plugged this usb stick into her computer in front of his eyes
24:18
and on it they found pictures of naked girls and a photo which also showed the suspect christian b naked
24:24
while bathing or sunbathing on a trailer hitch.
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what not is told that the police woman the witness called was his own life partner, and where the use of the laptop, and the read out of the usb drive(s) was done. the impression and the use of 'under his eyes' implies it all was done on that moment on scene, with the witness present. the original translation made officer into officers, but in the video is in german specifically spoken of the officer.

the translation did say their, but the german polite pronoun is the same pronounced for her/his and their, but you can get what is meant in how it is spoken. and computer can not reflecting on use outside so that must be the often used synonym for a laptop.
only because during the trial became clear finder and police officer are living together, i cannot be sure it happened truly on scene near the findings of the dog bones, or like at their home.

if this is a true story the defence team has certainly a sound reason to dispute about it.

the text time stamped as 24;24 is about a more explicit adventure of cb and a trailer hitch of a sexual nature.

i did found this video on a german forum, one of the posters on 'all mystery' had put it up. i had seen it before in 2020. i did bookmark it even at the time, but it already had slipped my memory completely.
a shame the old online stories about the raid seems no longer online available. most are now just empty. only the one from bild is still up. and a short piece of a local news outlet, with very little information. that one often put only little info up as click bait, you have to get an abo on their e-paper, to read all.

the transcription on youtube has another nice feature, if you click on the time stamp, the video will go to there.

at least it is a pretty correct made video, not overly flashy tabloid shouting even.

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Post  Counttoten Mon 25 Mar 2024, 10:01 am

and the extra dates to the trial are published officially too.

one in juli, 3 in august, 3 in september, and also 5 in october, the last now will be 22 october.

a total of 12.

Friday, 05 July 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Monday, 05 August 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Thursday, 15 August, 09:00 a.m.

Friday, 16 August 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Thursday, 05 September 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Thursday, 26 September 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Friday, 27 September 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Wednesday, 02 October 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Monday, 07 October 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Tuesday, 08 October 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Monday, 21 October 2024, 09:00 a.m.

Tuesday, 22 October 2024, 09:00 a.m.

expected: Room 141 in each case

source; http://www.landgericht-braunschweig.de/

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Post  AlloAllo Tue 26 Mar 2024, 1:56 pm

Since June 2020 the british media has been saying CB will appear before court during the summer, trouble is they never specified what year. A bit of a Casey's Court if you ask me.

Everything comes to he who waits, CB will be collecting a pension before this ends.

My only interest is still how Maddie's disappearance will be woven into CBs past but I am slightly intrigued to hear the witnesses version of the charges against him. Seems CB has been the subject of interest to german police for many years but the current situation appears to have culminated since June 2020.

I find it all very strange.




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