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Maddie McCann’s parents vow to fight ‘tooth and nail’ if they are ever prosecuted over leaving their kids alone
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3128358/maddie-mccanns-parents-fight-tooth-and-nail-if-prosecuted-over-leaving-kids-alone/
Might want a new thread for this one, Mods.....
Might want a new thread for this one, Mods.....
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Andrew wrote:https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3128358/maddie-mccanns-parents-fight-tooth-and-nail-if-prosecuted-over-leaving-kids-alone/
Might want a new thread for this one, Mods.....
I'm reading this with a large pinch of salt as Tracey is making it ALL up.
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Re: Pals slam ‘cruel’ petition calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be charged with child neglect
FIGHTING THEIR CORNER Maddie McCann’s parents vow to fight ‘tooth and nail’ if they are ever prosecuted over leaving their kids alone
The 10-year milestone of Maddie's mysterious disappearance is looming
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By Tracey Kandohla
19th March 2017, 9:39 pm
Updated: 19th March 2017, 9:50
THE PARENTS of Madeleine McCann vowed they would have “fought tooth and nail” if they had ever been prosecuted for abandoning their missing daughter and her twin brother and sister, a close pal has revealed.
As outspoken radio host Katie Hopkins today brands it an “injustice” that Kate and Gerry escaped punishment for leaving three children alone during a family holiday, their friend said: “They were well aware they could have been charged with child neglect and naturally very concerned.
“But in legal terms they were doing everything well within the bounds of respectable parenting.”
The source insists: “Any legal action against them would have failed.
“A court would have to show Kate and Gerry had wilfully neglected their daughter and her siblings, and they did not.
Maddie vanished while on holiday with her family in Portugal’s Algarve
The McCanns left their three children, all under the age of four, asleep in a holiday apartment in Portugal while they were dining nearby with pals.
The couple could have faced jail under Portuguese law if they had ever faced a charge of abandonment and been convicted.
Mum-of-three Katie, in a global YouTube interview with glamour model Jodie Marsh, claims they should never have escaped justice.
She also claimed Kate was insensitive for ever washing her snatched daughter’s favourite cuddly toy, Cuddle Cat.
Three-year-old Maddie vanished from the un-locked doored flat in The Algarve’s Praia da Luz in May 2007.
Her parents chose not to pay for a baby sitting service while they ate and drank in a tapas bar with chums, dubbed the Tapas Seven.
Ex GP Kate, 49, and heart doctor Gerry, 48, of Rothley, Leics, were never prosecuted for abandoning their kids out of “compassion”, a former Portuguese law chief revealed last year.
Former minister of internal affairs Rui Pereira slammed the decision not to charge the McCann’s with “the crime of abandonment.”
He revealed in a TV interview how top officials, out of “compassion” for the parents, ruled out charges citing Brits’ “peculiar cultural customs, thinking it is natural for them to leave children alone.”
Last week the McCanns faced fresh misery when a Portuguese crime expert spouted further outrageous claims over their daughter’s disappearance.
In a shocking TV outburst Francisco Moita Flores said: “Maddie died in that apartment, I have no doubt.”
Hopkins had previously stated on national LBC Radio: “Maddie was lost because she was left to be found.”
Marsh, in a Twitter rant, added that her parents should be searching “on their hands and knees digging up the bare earth rather than be side-tracked and busying themselves suing people.”
Maddie’s parents are bracing themselves for the painful milestone 10th anniversary of her disappearance in less than seven weeks.
They cling onto a glimmer of hope that their daughter, who would now be aged 13, could still be alive.
McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell today declined to discuss the latest rant, having previously said: “Kate and Gerry will not be fuelling any of this pure speculation with any comment whatsoever.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3128358/maddie-mccanns-parents-fight-tooth-and-nail-if-prosecuted-over-leaving-kids-alone/
The 10-year milestone of Maddie's mysterious disappearance is looming
Exclusive
By Tracey Kandohla
19th March 2017, 9:39 pm
Updated: 19th March 2017, 9:50
THE PARENTS of Madeleine McCann vowed they would have “fought tooth and nail” if they had ever been prosecuted for abandoning their missing daughter and her twin brother and sister, a close pal has revealed.
As outspoken radio host Katie Hopkins today brands it an “injustice” that Kate and Gerry escaped punishment for leaving three children alone during a family holiday, their friend said: “They were well aware they could have been charged with child neglect and naturally very concerned.
“But in legal terms they were doing everything well within the bounds of respectable parenting.”
The source insists: “Any legal action against them would have failed.
“A court would have to show Kate and Gerry had wilfully neglected their daughter and her siblings, and they did not.
Maddie vanished while on holiday with her family in Portugal’s Algarve
The McCanns left their three children, all under the age of four, asleep in a holiday apartment in Portugal while they were dining nearby with pals.
The couple could have faced jail under Portuguese law if they had ever faced a charge of abandonment and been convicted.
A court would have to show Kate and Gerry had wilfully neglected their daughter and her siblings, and they did not.
a source said
Mum-of-three Katie, in a global YouTube interview with glamour model Jodie Marsh, claims they should never have escaped justice.
She also claimed Kate was insensitive for ever washing her snatched daughter’s favourite cuddly toy, Cuddle Cat.
Three-year-old Maddie vanished from the un-locked doored flat in The Algarve’s Praia da Luz in May 2007.
Her parents chose not to pay for a baby sitting service while they ate and drank in a tapas bar with chums, dubbed the Tapas Seven.
Ex GP Kate, 49, and heart doctor Gerry, 48, of Rothley, Leics, were never prosecuted for abandoning their kids out of “compassion”, a former Portuguese law chief revealed last year.
Former minister of internal affairs Rui Pereira slammed the decision not to charge the McCann’s with “the crime of abandonment.”
He revealed in a TV interview how top officials, out of “compassion” for the parents, ruled out charges citing Brits’ “peculiar cultural customs, thinking it is natural for them to leave children alone.”
Last week the McCanns faced fresh misery when a Portuguese crime expert spouted further outrageous claims over their daughter’s disappearance.
In a shocking TV outburst Francisco Moita Flores said: “Maddie died in that apartment, I have no doubt.”
Hopkins had previously stated on national LBC Radio: “Maddie was lost because she was left to be found.”
Marsh, in a Twitter rant, added that her parents should be searching “on their hands and knees digging up the bare earth rather than be side-tracked and busying themselves suing people.”
Kate and Gerry will not be fuelling any of this pure speculation with any comment whatsoever.
Clarence MitchellMcCann spokesman
Maddie’s parents are bracing themselves for the painful milestone 10th anniversary of her disappearance in less than seven weeks.
They cling onto a glimmer of hope that their daughter, who would now be aged 13, could still be alive.
McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell today declined to discuss the latest rant, having previously said: “Kate and Gerry will not be fuelling any of this pure speculation with any comment whatsoever.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3128358/maddie-mccanns-parents-fight-tooth-and-nail-if-prosecuted-over-leaving-kids-alone/
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Tracey can't even get a key quote correct!
She refers to 'within the bounds of respectable parenting'.What is respectable parenting? Does it refer to the social class of the parents!!!!
In Kate's version of the truth in her book she said that the barrister (unnamed) who came out to PDL to advise them told her that their childminding arrangements were 'within the bounds of responsible parenting'.
Presumably that is what Tracey meant - a quote from the horses mouth as it were.
She refers to 'within the bounds of respectable parenting'.What is respectable parenting? Does it refer to the social class of the parents!!!!
In Kate's version of the truth in her book she said that the barrister (unnamed) who came out to PDL to advise them told her that their childminding arrangements were 'within the bounds of responsible parenting'.
Presumably that is what Tracey meant - a quote from the horses mouth as it were.
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The comments are very vocal,to say the least. I think it's telling they wouldn't have been allowed to stand even six months ago
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Are they expecting to answer to a court soon then?
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I'm not sure what to make of all this. Either Tracey and the McCanns have fallen out big time or it's a subtle Katie Hopkins style way of pushing the abduction via neglect narrative
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http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/03/20/14/18/madeleine-mccann-cadaver-sniffer-dogs-reaction-apartment-car-didnt-make-sense
Gerry and Kate's reaction to sniffer dogs hitting on McCann holiday apartment and rental car 'didn't make sense'
Gerry and Kate's reaction to sniffer dogs hitting on McCann holiday apartment and rental car 'didn't make sense'
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Andrew wrote:http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/03/20/14/18/madeleine-mccann-cadaver-sniffer-dogs-reaction-apartment-car-didnt-make-sense
Gerry and Kate's reaction to sniffer dogs hitting on McCann holiday apartment and rental car 'didn't make sense'
Wow what an article!
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Andrew wrote:http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/03/20/14/18/madeleine-mccann-cadaver-sniffer-dogs-reaction-apartment-car-didnt-make-sense
Gerry and Kate's reaction to sniffer dogs hitting on McCann holiday apartment and rental car 'didn't make sense'
Would be great to see that article in newspapers here.
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If Tracy K has seen the above I'm sure she will be speaking with Lawyers /TPTB about putting it to print in the UK. This will settle once and for all if she is a friend or foe of the Mc's.
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I was wondering earlier whether a similar article will make it to the British shores as I'll bet with certainty that most if not all the British MSM will have articles like that (about the dogs) on a database somewhere gathering dust so to speak.
IMO etc.
IMO etc.
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bluebell wrote:Andrew wrote:http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/03/20/14/18/madeleine-mccann-cadaver-sniffer-dogs-reaction-apartment-car-didnt-make-sense
Gerry and Kate's reaction to sniffer dogs hitting on McCann holiday apartment and rental car 'didn't make sense'
Would be great to see that article in newspapers here.
It certainly would.
I suppose publishing this in Australia is relatively safe from legal action due to the cost of pursuing such an action.
Can it be reported in UK now that it has appeared oversea?
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There's a lot of mud slinging in the comments section but also a huge amount of informative stuff too. Someone has posted the 48 questions Kate refused to answer, there's talk of false reporting of 'jemmied'shutters and the McCanns refusing a lie detector test. If The Sun is testing the water, that informative article about the dogs might be along sooner rather than later!
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I'm not sure but I've put it on Twitter, as have some others so it should get picked up on.froggy wrote:bluebell wrote:Andrew wrote:http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/03/20/14/18/madeleine-mccann-cadaver-sniffer-dogs-reaction-apartment-car-didnt-make-sense
Gerry and Kate's reaction to sniffer dogs hitting on McCann holiday apartment and rental car 'didn't make sense'
Would be great to see that article in newspapers here.
It certainly would.
I suppose publishing this in Australia is relatively safe from legal action due to the cost of pursuing such an action.
Can it be reported in UK now that it has appeared oversea?
We'll see if any dare to print it
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I was thinking that too - there's another bit in the book when Alan Pike whose testimony at the Supreme Court was rejected because he's not a psychologist, tells Kate and Gerry that they "Seem like model parents".Antonia wrote:Tracey can't even get a key quote correct!
She refers to 'within the bounds of respectable parenting'.What is respectable parenting? Does it refer to the social class of the parents!!!!
In Kate's version of the truth in her book she said that the barrister (unnamed) who came out to PDL to advise them told her that their childminding arrangements were 'within the bounds of responsible parenting'.
Presumably that is what Tracey meant - a quote from the horses mouth as it were.
I was also wondering if anyone knows what impact making Madeleine a ward of court would have on the issue of neglect, if anything. I wondered if this was part of the decision process perhaps? In the book, the issue of neglect is followed immediately by the decision to make Madeleine a ward of court, so I wondered what the legal implications are?
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I've always been puzzled about this making Madelaine a COW ...
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I know making Madeleine a ward of court enabled the McCanns' lawyers to access the case files but this backfired IMO because shortly after the PJ released the files so the public could read them and that's not gone too well for them! I also read there are other potential benefits for the McCanns - I don't know if this is correct by I read that it means Madeleine's medical records cannot be disclosed for 75 years. In her book Kate says lawyers discussed WoC (she doesn't say advised) so I would like to know what other benefits, if any, there are for the McCanns. I've been trying to research this but I haven't got very far. Sorry if I've wandered off topic!
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It was the IFLG (International Family Law Group) that met the McCanns on the 11th of May 2007. It was one of the lawyers from there who examined the proximity from the Tapas bar to Apt 5a and said it was not negligent and well within the bounds of reasonable parenting.
They (IFLG) also advised Madeleine to become a Ward of Court.
They also advised to set up a 'fighting fund'.
..... According to Kate's book. (so take all that with some salt)
So in April 2007, iFLG opened its doors in Covent Garden for worldwide business. It started small, with only four full-time partners and staff. It increased in size and we now have 24 partners, lawyers, support staff and consultants.
http://www.iflg.uk.com/history-and-ethos
So less than 6 weeks after opening then the IFLG advised the McCanns on all this stuff.......????
http://www.iflg.uk.com/our-lawyers
Which one of these gave the within the bounds quote I wonder......
They (IFLG) also advised Madeleine to become a Ward of Court.
They also advised to set up a 'fighting fund'.
..... According to Kate's book. (so take all that with some salt)
So in April 2007, iFLG opened its doors in Covent Garden for worldwide business. It started small, with only four full-time partners and staff. It increased in size and we now have 24 partners, lawyers, support staff and consultants.
http://www.iflg.uk.com/history-and-ethos
So less than 6 weeks after opening then the IFLG advised the McCanns on all this stuff.......????
http://www.iflg.uk.com/our-lawyers
Which one of these gave the within the bounds quote I wonder......
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Wow - thanks Andrew that's a huge case for a newly established firm - I wonder if it's another case of not what you know but who you know! I read that Kate and Gerry didn't even attend the hearing when Maddie was made a WoC - another revealing act. I think it could be a smokescreen to her things, possibly medical records... I'm very curious!Andrew wrote:It was the IFLG (International Family Law Group) that met the McCanns on the 11th of May 2007. It was one of the lawyers from there who examined the proximity from the Tapas bar to Apt 5a and said it was not negligent and well within the bounds of reasonable parenting.
They (IFLG) also advised Madeleine to become a Ward of Court.
They also advised to set up a 'fighting fund'.
..... According to Kate's book. (so take all that with some salt)
So in April 2007, iFLG opened its doors in Covent Garden for worldwide business. It started small, with only four full-time partners and staff. It increased in size and we now have 24 partners, lawyers, support staff and consultants.
http://www.iflg.uk.com/history-and-ethos
So less than 6 weeks after opening then the IFLG advised the McCanns on all this stuff.......????
http://www.iflg.uk.com/our-lawyers
Which one of these gave the within the bounds quote I wonder......
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Pals slam ‘cruel’ petition calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be charged with child neglect
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3197252/madeleine-mccann-petition-charged-child-neglect/
'PURE BILE' Pals slam ‘cruel’ petition calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be charged with child neglect – as signatures top 130,000
Hollie Flynn’s desperate bid to cause more anguish to Kate and Gerry looks set to fail, despite gaining 130,215 signatures on petition site change.org
'PURE BILE' Pals slam ‘cruel’ petition calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be charged with child neglect – as signatures top 130,000
Hollie Flynn’s desperate bid to cause more anguish to Kate and Gerry looks set to fail, despite gaining 130,215 signatures on petition site change.org
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I signed a similar e-petition in the very early days
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And the Sun has just publicised the petition and made it known to all of its subscribers and anyone else reading online!
Well done!
Well done!
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