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Post  poster Fri 30 Oct 2020, 7:48 pm

Freedom wrote:I won't risk sending my blood pressure up by watching the Bill Gates video. I'm being serious, I have a monitor and check regularly and think that it is affected by the increasingly bonkers state of the world.

I wonder if it's a coincidence that I've been blocked from my Microsoft Outlook (Hotmail) e-mail account. All attempts to get back in have failed.

Still, no loss in having nothing to with anything connected to Bill Gates!

I try to stop the madness from affecting my blood pressure but it's difficult.

It's official - Patrick Vallance is a liar. This comes from an impeccable source who trained with Vallance. No surprises to hear that SAGE is utterly incompetent and should be disbanded.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/what-sage-got-wrong/

I do like the sheep mask with the tongue pointing out - I might have to get one! I decided to become vocal recently and explain to a few people how my elderly relatives medical consultants - experts in immunology - do not wear masks. Within a very short space of time, masks were being removed and robust discussions ensued which were overheard.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/could-masks-increase-covid-19-transmission/

Look at the comments (but not if they might affect your blood pressure!) from this supposedly prestigious medical journal's article on how to mandate the new vaccine which isn't need. Nearly all very critical.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2020926?page=3#article_comments

I dared listen to news on the radio this afternoon and there were dire warnings from a top police spokesman that young people should not break the rules and transmit the virus to their elderly relatives. It is not the job of young people to protect the very elderly and/or very vulnerable from disease. People who are not ill should be free to go about their normal lives while those who are vulnerable, such as my elderly relative, take sensible precautions. This has always and will always be the case and people need to take responsibility for their own health and their own level of risk.

The writing has been on the wall for a long time. Weren't we just supposed to be 'flattening the curve' in March in order to 'save the NHS'?? It's now October. Same doom and gloom from the same 'experts' with their threats and curtailment of personal freedom. I would imagine that mental illness and suicides are going through the roof. I've been told that students at universities - who have tested positive with the absurd tests presumably - have been forced to stay in their rooms, are denied face-to-face counselling and 'welfare officers' are telling them to watch TV. What a farce - to turn a university education into some kind of forced imprisonment with spoon-feeding of MSM garbage.

I never in my lifetime thought that I would experience anything as ridiculous as this. It makes the Madeleine McCann case pale into insignificance. I suppose this is partly the point of it - anything that really matters is being buried under mountains of nonsensical bad science.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/29/german-official-leaks-report-denouncing-corona-as-global-false-alarm/



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Post  poster Fri 30 Oct 2020, 8:01 pm

Clipped from link above:

As a private individual, I am incandescent with rage at the damage they have inflicted on this country. We should demand more honesty, as well as competence from those elected or appointed to look after aspects of life we cannot manage alone. SAGE has either been irredeemably incompetent or it has been dishonest. I personally know a few SAGE members and with the sole exception of a nameless individual, it is an understatement that they have greatly disappointed me. They have rebuffed well-intentioned and, as it turned out, accurate advice from at least three Nobel laureate scientists, all informing them that their modelling was seriously and indeed lethally in error. Though this may not have made the papers, everyone in the science community knows about this and that SAGE’s inadequate replies are scandalous. I have no confidence in any of them and neither should you.

No Need For a Vaccine

There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I’ve never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from a disease. You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on human subjects. This much I know after 30 years in the pharmaceutical industry. Yet there are such moves afoot. One thought piece suggests that anyone who refuses vaccination should be subject to indefinite house arrest (Mello et al, 2020). In some countries, there is talk of “no jab, no job”. There have even been job adverts for openings in NHS Wales for people to “oversee the vaccination of the entire population”. Any such proposals are not only completely unnecessary but if done using any kind of coercion at all, illegal.
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Post  poster Fri 30 Oct 2020, 8:11 pm

A little bit more light reading - perhaps something for university students imprisoned in their rooms watching the MSM.

https://www.corona-stocks.com/the-covid-19-scamdemic-part-1-the-hard-road-to-a-new-world-order/
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Post  Freedom Sat 31 Oct 2020, 10:12 am

Rather like the McCann case and others with dodgy official stories, it's difficult to talk about the whole Covid-19 issue without accusations of being a mad conspiracy theorist.

Believing that we're being taken for absolute fools with the increasingly barmy restrictions on our lives doesn't mean that we don't think the virus actually exists. Or at least I don't but it's not the bubonic plague and we can get on with our lives more or less normally.

I almost wish that I wasn't a self-confessed miserable old hermit (on second thoughts, not so much of the old) so that I could continue socialising in my own home and that of others!

How I cringe at all the "stay safe" messages from the sheeples on Facebook. I have visions of them going out and about dressed like refugees from Chernobyl.
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Post  Freedom Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:28 pm

I'll post this without comment other than that I'm tempted to go back to alcohol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54763956
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Post  poster Mon 02 Nov 2020, 3:24 pm

Freedom wrote:Rather like the McCann case and others with dodgy official stories, it's difficult to talk about the whole Covid-19 issue without accusations of being a mad conspiracy theorist.

Believing that we're being taken for absolute fools with the increasingly barmy restrictions on our lives doesn't mean that we don't think the virus actually exists. Or at least I don't but it's not the bubonic plague and we can get on with our lives  more or less normally.

I almost wish that I wasn't a self-confessed miserable old hermit (on second thoughts, not so much of the old) so that I could continue socialising in my own home and that of others!

How I cringe at all the "stay safe" messages from the sheeples on Facebook. I have visions of them going out and about dressed like refugees from Chernobyl.

From what I've read there are questions around whether the virus has been properly isolated, according to the principles of Koch's Postulates whatever they are. I also suspect that many cases of other illness including flu which can kill over 50,000 people in a year, where lumped into covid-19 statistics. What happened to all the flu cases? They can't have just vanished. How many cases of flu were labelled 'covid-19'? I'm not saying the virus doesn't exist but there are some very basic questions to be answered and I think the statistics are deliberately misleading.

Of course there will still be people testing positive - people are being tested en masse which they weren't being a few months ago. But these positive cases are irrelevant unless they are in hospital and ill or die of the virus. There are many scientists and doctors who claim that there is a high rate of false positives and that in fact nearly all the positive tests will be false.

We are just been fed garbage by the MSM and the government. No context is given, no real hard evidence is given. There is no debate. No robust scrutiny is allowed on the MSM.
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Post  poster Mon 02 Nov 2020, 4:01 pm

Freedom wrote:I'll post this without comment other than that I'm tempted to go back to alcohol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54763956

What a barefaced liar he is! He knows perfectly well there are lots of other options to lockdown. How about no lockdown for starters? It will cause immense harm to mental and physical health.  The economy is already in tatters. A doom and gloom winter is pronounced for no good reason apart from some highly dubious false positive tests for an illness where the average age of death is over 80 years old. The death rates WITH covid-19 were nearly all people who would have died soon anyway, sadly.

Many experts who do not believe the official narrative say that the virus has run its course. The death rates were around average by summer but are likely to go up as a direct result of lockdown, not covid-19.

I can see why they are doing this - they want a return on investment for the vaccine, among other things. If things go back to normal now and if they stopped testing there is no reason to believe that covid-19 would be any real issue at all. Small pockets of infection could be dealt with at a local level. Sadly the very elderly and those who were seriously ill will have already died and are just as likely (perhaps more!) to succumb to any respiratory infection this winter.

Without the most scandalously complicit media, Boris couldn't get away with this utter drivel. I dared watch Sky News before Boris' announcement and the reporter was a disgrace.  The opposition view was that we should have locked down earlier which in my opinion is a complete red herring designed to deflect from the real issue which is WE SHOULN'T BE LOCKING DOWN AT ALL! The reporter refused to address this and deliberately followed the red herring. It really was the most pathetic journalism as the reporter doggedly kept asking the wrong question.

It's all an orchestrated performance which relies on the pubic continuing to buy into the notion that the government and their ridiculous 'experts' give a damn about individual lives. The hospitals are not overwhelmed and surely the point of the Nightingale Hospital was to provide extra beds in the event of a surge of illness? It doesn't matter what the illness is - covid-19 has been shown to have a similar mortality to annual flu.

If the government are going to pretend to care about individual lives, then why are patients with other illnesses being neglected? Why test healthy people for a virus that has run its course and only affects a tiny percentage of the population, most of whom will survive? This second lockdown right as winter falls will play havoc with mental health - the 'experts' must know this. Is it designed to demoralize and depress people so much that they will do anything to avoid another lockdown, including taking a dodgy vaccine which they don't need? It will definitely lead to a loss of more lives than if we didn't lockdown, imo, and the 'experts' must know this. It's nothing short of criminal.

The general public have got to wake up and start saying NO. Stop wearing masks for starters. The PCR tests are hugely unreliable and are not meant to be used diagnostically. The whole thing is a house of cards.

The reporter also managed to find several members of the public (or to plant several members of the public) who 'blamed' the so-called 'second wave' on people not wearing their masks. There is no scientific evidence that mask wearing by members of the public makes any difference at all to the spread of transmission of a virus and there is some evidence that the negative consequences will far outweigh the positive.
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I think the mask wearing is purely designed to keep the sheeple cowed and afraid - as well as clearly identifying who is buying into the agenda. The enforcing of the mask-wearing by shop workers,  security staff et al gives people in relatively lowly jobs with little responsibility a chance to exercise some power. A few little mini-Hitlers  are loving the extra power and it creates tension and stress which is quite unnecessary.  Again, the governments will know this and I think it's designed to get us pitted against each other and lower morale.

I was refused a coffee today because I wasn't wearing a mask. I told the server I was exempt and she asked to see my card which I didn't have on me. She then said she couldn't serve me. This clearly contravenes the government guidelines which states you do not need to give evidence of being exempt in the form of a card. I told her this and she turned away. Next time I'll take a copy of the Government guidelines and shove them under her nose. This is all so divisive for the absurd situation where you only wear the mask while walking around, as if a virus is going to care whether you are walking around or not. In actual fact, we have been told transmission needs prolonged close contact so wearing a mask while walking into a cafe is completely illogical. But this government like to play mind games with us, while spending millions of pounds of taxpayers money on backhanders to cronies for testing systems that don't work and aren't needed. Think how much money is being spent now on testing which is unnecessary and is a fraud designed to justify another lockdown.

I would urge anyone to contact their MP NOW and make your feelings known about the second lockdown. It cannot happen unless MPs vote for it.  If people don't stand up to their rights now, there will be further erosions of civil liberties. We were told in March we were flattening the curve. We did that. Nightingale Hospital was built. The testing is a scam. A second lockdown is not in the interests of the general population. It will cause immense harm and is not based on any solid evidence. On the contrary, the evidence is that it will cause harm.

Boris and his cronies should be behind bars. The whole thing is the most appalling scandal.
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Post  poster Mon 02 Nov 2020, 4:31 pm

The other thing the reporter did which infuriated me was to deliberately evoke the emotive 'Christmas' celebrations to milk some more drama out of the situation and to convey the idea that if we are all very good little sheeple, wearing our masks, hiding inside and doing what we are told then Father Christmas will come after all!

How disgusting that these politicians, who are supposed to be serving us, are deliberately using cruel threats of keeping families apart in order to pursue their own greedy, warped agendas.

You couldn't make this sh** up, could you? We are being treated like three year olds by this corrupt, sadistic bunch of power-mad, greedy psychopaths who must be sniggering at our compliance. It's a bit like a re-run of the McCann case only a hundred times worse.

And just how long has this SCAMDEMIC being in the making? The small number of corrupt individuals profiteering from the misery (which includes Boris and his cronies) should be  in the gallows, imo.

I feel like I've got stuck in the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe's Narnia where the wicked queen is trying to prevent Christmas.

I have nothing but serious contempt for Boris and his cronies.
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Post  Guinea Pig Wed 04 Nov 2020, 9:10 am

Interesting - there will be a vote on the latest lockdown. I won't hold my breath but there's still a chance that sanity may prevail.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54804847
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Post  Freedom Wed 04 Nov 2020, 9:22 pm

I didn't hold my breath either. Sanity didn't prevail, needless to say.

Here are the new rules - you really couldn't make them up; no wait.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518
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Post  poster Thu 05 Nov 2020, 7:09 pm

Support groups of 15 or fewer people are allowed, including those for new parents or people recovering from addictions

Complete and utter madness but I notice that within all the rules there are 'get out' clauses.

There are exemptions for not wearing masks.  

A support group of 15 or fewer people is quite a large group of people. What is to stop 15 people getting together and calling themselves a support group? It doesn't say they can't meet inside either.

I still think it's all complete madness and we are being played. People have sent samples of fruit and orange juice to be tested and they have come back positive.

It's just interesting how there are loopholes that can be used and in some cases the wording of the rules is quite ambiguous.

For instance, you can be fined for not wearing a mask, but if you say you are exempt you don't even have to give proof of this.

The support group of 15 or fewer people is also open to interpretation. For instance, it could allow groups of neighbours, friends, colleagues or hobby groups to call themselves a support group and get together. At least that's my interpretation of it.

What I find shocking is that so many people I know, and people I consider to be intelligent, are totally buying into the agenda. They think that people breaking rules has caused the spread of covid, they think we are being told the truth, they think wearing a mask as you walk into a cafe helps stop the spread of covid, they believe the government.

The truth is that vulnerable people in care homes and hospitals were NOT protected at the start of the alleged pandemic - whatever the pandemic was, even if flu or any infectious disease such as the common cold. Staff were going into care homes and hospitals without being tested and without protection. Elderly people were being discharged from hospital with whatever respiratory or infectious disease they had, whether covid or something else, and sent back to nursing and care homes. These are the people who are vulnerable to catching a further disease of any kind - flu, a cold whatever - and they were not protected at the height of  an  alleged pandemic.

The government DID NOT therefore take measures to protect the elderly and vulnerable, despite Matt Hancock lying and saying care-homes were ringfenced. They were not. The only conclusion to this is that the government either didn't care whether the elderly and vulnerable died or they deliberately allowed it to happen.

I think the continuing scaremongering about the alleged pandemic and the dodgy testing - as death rates are near-normal or at least were a few months ago - is designed to keep the sheeple under control until a vaccine is rolled out. I suspect that the likes of Bill and Melinda would like to restrict the movements of people who chose not to have the vaccine. The massively increasing vaccine schedule for babies and children with mandatory vaccines in some countries would suggest that this is the way 'public health' policy is going. It's increasingly totalitarian, imo, and is based on a belief that vaccines are safe and the benefits outweigh the risks. This has not been proven and commonsense would suggest that a healthy immune system, good diet, exercise and the like will be far more effective than a cocktail of drugs in warding off infect's ious disease. There is more to the scamdemic, imo, and it's well worth reading the critiques of WEF leader Klaus Schwab's book (see below). It's eye-popping stuff from a person with so much control who was not elected.

I find it hugely suspicious that people over 85 years of old will be offered (hopefully offered rather than forced) the vaccine first. We know the vaccine has been rushed out. We know we have been lied to with statistics, with so many deaths put down to covid when there were pre-existing conditions that could have lead to the deaths. We know that the majority of elderly people have survived.
I think the over 85s are being used as guinea pigs for the vaccine. If they die/have adverse reactions it can be put down to old age and/or underlying conditions. "Oh, it's just a coincidence it was the vaccine because the patient was elderly/only had a short time to live/had underlying conditions."

I think it has been reported that health workers are also first in line for the vaccine. This is an interesting one. There must be hundreds if not thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people working in healthcare fields (the NHS is the biggest employer in Europe) including in care homes who will NOT trust the vaccine.

IMO this is all a giant psych-op with some seriously deranged individuals behind the hoax. Psychopathic maniacs  (some quite elderly who don't care what mess they leave behind) are driving this utter madness. Think BMGF, WEF, WHO and a few others with massive wealth and influence.

I honestly this  has been a depopulation and control agenda - among other agendas - cloaked behind a 'virus', presumably years in the making and that it falls upon those who are awake to stop this madness. I think that the psychopaths behind it may well be thinking along the lines of: 'If you are stupid enough to fall for it all and get the vaccine, then you get what you deserve'.

I hope I'm wrong but we were played for years with the Madeleine McCann case (and many other giant hoaxes). History is not encouraging in this respect.  

All IMO as always. These are extraordinary times but I think the MSM did a very good job of destroying the reputation of Dr Andrew Wakefield in the late 1980s, the paper that questioned a possible connection between behavioural and digestive disorders and the MMR was redacted. There were 13 authors names to that paper and most of them withdrew their names, presumably to keep their reputations and careers. Two of the authors fought the BMJ ruling through the courts and were able to retain their licenses. That's my recollection of what happened.  That paper was clearly a real fly in the ointment of a massive rollout of vaccines and - who knows - perhaps also a fly in the ointment of the creation of a scamdemic/plandemic that could even have been decades in the offing.

It's worth having a look at the Wakefield saga and also looking at the methods used by Brian Deer - paid by the Murdoch-owned Sunday Times - to destroy Andrew Wakefield's career in this country. Brian Deer was openly hostile to the parents of the children that Wakefield and his team treated, showed zero compassion for very ill children and generally comes over, imo, as a very nasty piece of work.

The smears made against Wakefield and his team are ironic given the filthy practises of some of the drug companies which have been exposed over and over again. The BMGF have also been accused of testing their vaccines in third world countries, among other accusations.

Perhaps it is not a coincidence that it is in Australia (home of Murdoch) that we have seen some of the most draconian measures used against people allegedly breaking rules with police taking extreme action, in some cases.

It would be great to be wrong. I would so like to believe that the BMGF, WHO, WEF and our government only had our best interests at heart. That the biggest threat to our health and wellbeing was a virus that could be eradicated with a new vaccine. But with millions of people unemployed, with small and medium size business collapsing daily, with the arts, sports and cultural worlds not to mention tourism battered practically into oblivion, I simply cannot believe in fairy tales any more.

https://vaccinerisks.wordpress.com/2014/02/01/a-few-facts-about-dr-andrew-wakefield-and-his-paper/

https://winteroak.org.uk/2020/10/05/klaus-schwab-and-his-great-fascist-reset/
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Post  poster Thu 05 Nov 2020, 7:48 pm

The 'winter oak' article has been reproduced elsewhere and it is interesting to read the comments.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/12/klaus-schwab-his-great-fascist-reset/

Look who was appointed head of Gavi (see in the comments to the article below). affraid affraid

https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/12/klaus-schwab-his-great-fascist-reset/

Bill and Melinda Gates appeared to snigger quite knowingly when they said that: 'Gavi helped' or words to that effect in an interview. I remember noticing that and wondering what they were on about but perhaps the above explains this partly. The pair smirk uncontrollably about how the world will take notice with the next pandemic. Again, can't remember the precise words used but watch the interview. Gavi 'helped' in what way, I wonder? Of note, imo, is that the UK, when it hosted the world vaccine forum (or whatever it's called) back in the spring of this year, is, according to Boris the country that is the largest contributor to Gavi. The UK clearly helped Gavi too. Boris, in his address when he announced the sums of money that the UK tax payers were donating to Gavi, did mention Bill Gates. I remember noticing this at the time - when I still watched news on the MSM - and thinking it was extraordinary that no journalist asked about this. The announcement was sandwiched between the droning about the death statistics at the beginning and the new rules or whatever it was at the end. It also struck me that it was incredibly convenient timing that the world vaccine forum just so happened to be taking place while a global 'pandemic' was allegedly occurring and that life would only return to normal with a vaccine!! lol! Probably just one of those fortuitous coincidences of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFj7MW-acog
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Post  poster Thu 05 Nov 2020, 8:10 pm

Please share widely. Whistle-blowers coming forward. It had to happen and it is.

Apparently Boris was on the news today. I don't watch the MSM but my relative couldn't believe how badly he came over - stuttering, spluttering. A bit like the McCanns and their friends in interviews it sounds like. All bluster and no substance it would seem - as has always been the case, imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e09xnUJfyQY&feature=youtu.be
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Post  poster Sat 07 Nov 2020, 11:42 am

If only more people working in the NHS and the caring professions would speak up. So many professionals have seen through the scamdemic - lawyers for instance. But you don't of course need to be a professional to see through it all.

The level of vitriol that was levelled at Dr Andrew Wakefield and his team demonstrated, imo, that vaccines are one huge hot potato. There are very few safety trials and no true double-blind trials. In other words that vaccine is not compared with a placebo but with another vaccine. If Dr Wakefield and his team hadn't been  onto something, their small study would have disappeared into oblivion. The reaction spoke volumes. Vaccines are a holy cow. But why?  The only real explanation, imo, is that they are something of a fraud. I do now believe this to be the case and I believe that the vaccine 'against covid-19' will have nothing at all to do with a virus. I presume it's a depopulation device as well as some kind of track and trace and/or linked to a 'health passport'. It sounds 'out there' but why would a computer softwear salesman be able to dictate public health policy? Anyone can stick the 'philanthropist' label on themselves. Why would a ruthless businessman, ruthless enough to become one of the richest men in the world, suddenly discover philanthropy so late on in life? Kaus Schwab, head of WEF, has ideas that appear to come from a sci-fi movie.

Rich, powerful people can, of course be genuine philanthropists and leave their legacies with millions donated to genuine good causes. On the other hand rich, powerful people can also not be genuine philanthropists and are motivated by power, control and leaving legacies that are not necessarily to do with altruism. A type of megalomania I suppose.

I would put Hitler, Gates, Schwab et al in the latter category. Levels of wealth might be different but the levels of power are huge. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely? I witnessed at first hand the corruption in the medico-legal system and how spineless members of the medical profession can be. I couldn't get a single medical expert to criticise what had clearly been sub-standard treatment and had to resort to a medical expert abroad who didn't have to worry about the BMA or embarrassing colleagues. The son of an eminent lord was my barrister and took great pleasure in squandering tax-payers money to deny justice to a child.

It was a shameless display and an episode that left me with little confidence in the higher echelons of the medical and legal systems. Indeed, as the lord's son ushered me out of the royal courts of justice he remarked with some relish: "This doesn't put the medical of legal professions in a very good light does it?'

No kidding. He also casually remarked that the meeting at royal courts of justice would have cost more than my child would ever get in compensation.

It is against this kind of backdrop that what we are seeing now in terms of corruption is taking place.

Unbelievable but time to say NO!

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Post  poster Sat 07 Nov 2020, 6:45 pm

I dared glance into the Daily Telegraph today. There was a photo of Boris holding a swab to the back of his throat at a testing centre with a captain saying he was testing himself hoping that he wouldn't catch the virus again.

The blatant propaganda here and sheer audacity of the nonsense being spouted puts Boris in the worst possible light. He really is a corrupt, lying scum-bag.

How will 'testing' help him not catch the virus again? If he's already had it then he should be immune?

But of course the messages are clear. Keep testing, even if you have had it, because we need to keep the positive cases up in order to carry on with the scamdemic. This will then help the push for a vaccine. Both the tests and the vaccines will make millions and millions for those behind the scamdemic.

There was also an appalling story saying that SAGE scientists are suggesting mini-quarantines after celebrations such as Christmas. Just how much are these scumbags being paid to come up with such utter garbage? It's as though we are circus animals performing in a ring and have to be punished after our 'treats'. So shameless.

There was also a story about non-emergency procedures being cancelled in a number of hospitals to stop them being overwhelmed. The claim was that the hospital were overwhelmed by covid and non-covid patients. Given that I presume patients are now being tested if they are admitted into A+E then a great many will be positive for covid (most of the positive cases are false positive anyway) but that doesn't mean that they are ill with covid. On the contrary, I suspect that A+E is now full as a direct result of cancelled medical treatments for anything apart from covid over the summer. The backlog must be enormous by now. Plus there will of course be all the usual winter illnesses such as flu, respiratory illness and all the usual culprits AS WELL AS a backlog of untreated illnesses. Hospitals are full but it's nothing to do with covid per se but to do with lockdown policy and cancellation of other treatments. Mental and physical health will be suffering badly now and morale must be very low.

With Sage threatening more lockdowns how is anyone ever going to get back to work or any kind of normal life?

THIS HAS TO STOP.

What an appalling scandal. It is no coincidence, imo, that Boris gave the lockdown speech on Halloween and then lockdown happened on 5th November. God how pathetic they are - as bad as Gerry McCann. We are being lead by a bunch of psychopaths whose palms have been oiled by billionaire megalomaniacs.  

Terrible times.

IMO.
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Post  poster Sun 08 Nov 2020, 10:57 am

Look at the flu and pneumonia statistics for the past year compared to previous years! Flu practically disappeared and pneumonia reduced dramatically. This is simply not plausible unless one accepts that a 'covid-19' diagnosis replaced flu and pneumonia. Why do that? To bring in a vaccine is partly the answer but it's clearly much more than that because you don't need to crash the economy for bouts of flu and pneumonia. So we have to come down to 'new world order', 'new normal' stuff as beloved of EMF, Gates and others.

It's all been a giant hoax. If you look back to the early news coverage there were stock photos of coffins outside hospitals and also packed wards etc. All classic scaremongering stuff. These photos were used widely but in different settings. There was also a photo of a 12 year old who had allegedly died - this photo was used with captions claiming that the child had died in a number of different countries.

I always knew Boris was a bumbling twit but he is also nasty. There's an interview with him when he was much younger where he is asked what is the price of a loaf of bread? He is unable to answer this but instead boasts that he knows the price of a bottle of champagne. He comes over as a spoilt, petulant and stupid brat. N

Nothing appears to have changed except unfortunately he is prime minister. Have we ever had a worse one?

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Must read - even if just the last few paragraphs. This is hugely relevant to what is going on right now as Boris has constantly alluded to the Spanish flu, 'fighting' the virus, using wartime words and phrases and trying to evoke the idea of slaying the enemy.

I've often wondered if the so-called Spanish flu had something to do with experimental vaccines on soldiers as the military always seem to get a cocktail of potent vaccines. Why would an infectious disease target young and healthy men?


https://vaccineimpact.com/2018/did-military-experimental-vaccine-in-1918-kill-50-100-million-people-blamed-as-spanish-flu/
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Post  poster Sun 08 Nov 2020, 12:28 pm

The Gates Foundation 'saving millions of lives' in the third world.

I've been researching all this stuff for years as the Wakefield saga broke just at the time my own children were due to receive vaccines. I knew doctors who knew him and his team well and they were shocked by what they saw. They couldn't believe it when his phone was being bugged, he was being followed etc. It freaked him and them out big time.

So I was suspicious about the MMR. By the time the HPV was pushed I knew something was seriously wrong. Rates of cervical cancer had dropped dramatically and the public health measures taken had been very successful in reducing death rates from this cancer which had become a relatively rare disease. As is always the case, the vaccine was introduced when the disease was on a downward trajectory and was likely to have become even rarer with better testing and earlier diagnosis plus greater knowledge.

This 'covid' vaccine will clearly be Bill and Melinda Gates' 'swansong'. The pair have displayed enough dupers' delight for me to now mistrust them totally. Perhaps they started out with reasonable intentions (perhaps) but got drunk on power. That's being charitable. Their money has corrupted all independence - that is blatantly obvious. You need to see who is on their payroll to see who has been compromised - even if their initial intentions were good.

Boris and his henchmen are up to their necks in it. That was clear from the very beginning. The UK is a huge funder of Gavi. The fact that we made no effort at all at the very beginning to slow the spread of the virus is proof, as far as I am concerned, that the whole thing was a scamdemic. We didn't close our borders - we did nothing to curb the spread of a supposedly lethal pandemic. Measures were introduced months down the line after whatever infectious disease it was (flu?) had spread through the population. Masks and lockdowns were introduced once the peak was over. At this point it was clearly this was to do with power, control and other agendas and 'the virus' was merely a trojan horse or smoke-screen to remove civil liberties, crash the economy and goodness knows what else.

I wonder what little Christmas presents Boris and his elves have got for us? A ban on Christmas? Only buying 'essentials' such as toilet paper for presents? Police making house arrests on Christmas Day and dragging granny into a cell? Care-homes surrounded by barbed wire and only zoom calls to be made to residents? A ban on tinsel and Christmas cards as they can carry a deadly virus? Families only allowed to sit outside and eat Christmas lunch and must put masks back on between courses? A ban on singing carols unless wearing a mask? A ban on pulling crackers unless you are wearing PPE?

Any other absurdities? Why not just ban Christmas altogether?

https://humansarefree.com/2020/08/scrubbed-from-internet-history-of-gates-foundation-sterilizing-hundreds-of-thousands-of-young-girls-in-india-with-hpv-vaccine.html
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Post  poster Tue 10 Nov 2020, 12:27 pm

I'm glad the medical press are at last questioning policies - just in time before the vaccine rollout.

On 9 September The BMJ reported leaked plans, called “Operation Moonshot,” to regularly screen households, cities, and then the entire UK population for SARS-CoV-2, at a reported cost of over £100 billion. [1] To me, this appeared to be one of the most unethical proposals for use of public funds, or for screening, that I’d ever seen. Condemnation followed, together with a legal challenge by The Good Law Project. [2] The UK National Screening Committee (NSC)—the recognised source of expert, independent, conflict-free advice to ministers on screening—had played no part in the decision making process, and the legality of the procurement processes have been questioned.

At last - a consultant in public health questions the ethics of all this. Ethics seems to be something that Boris and his elves have zero interest in. Zero.



https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/11/09/screening-the-healthy-population-for-covid-19-is-of-unknown-value-but-is-being-introduced-nationwide/
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Post  poster Tue 10 Nov 2020, 1:39 pm

I responded to the very good piece in the BMJ with this. Be interesting to see if they publish it or not. How can anyone have any faith at all in a vaccine when we look at what has happened over the past eight months or so? A total shambles in every way and the most appalling squandering of public money. I urge anyone and everyone to start speaking out about all this.


The unethical use of public funds appears to lie at the heart of this alleged pandemic. Ethics is not the strong point of either Boris Johnson or his 'advisors', it would seem. The inappropriately named 'Sage' committee do not appear unduly concerned with ethics either as healthy people - and the not so healthy too - lose their jobs, livelihoods, the right to go about their lives seeing friends and family as they choose. This is a blatant power grab by politicians who are presumably in the payroll of those with vested interests in a 'pandemic'. It is hard to see who else will benefit from the current situation apart from the very wealthy few who can afford multiple homes, staff, private planes, private healthcare and all the other benefits that come with immense wealth.

It is difficult to see how a successful computer softwear salesman can become a 'philanthropist' overnight and be shaping not just public health but quite literally our civil liberties. Slaves wore masks in the past. I for one do not consent to enslavement enforced on the back of an alleged pandemic. As a matter of interest, what happened to all the flu deaths this year? They appear to have dropped dramatically. Surely something to celebrate? Oh, I forgot - we had covid-19 instead.


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Post  poster Tue 10 Nov 2020, 1:48 pm

Can't wait to see what Christmas presents Doris and his elves have up their sleeves after this second illegal lockdown? Any ideas?
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Post  poster Tue 10 Nov 2020, 2:15 pm

For anyone who is under any illusion that Boris really wants to save 'millions' of lives, read his speech below. This was presumably what got him the job as PM and into the pockets of Gates et al.  The hypocrisy of the man is laughable - how many children has he got? Why didn't he stick at one and keep the R number (reproductive number) down?

Is this what they are really talking about with the R-number? Keeping numbers of people down? I do believe it is? All the stuff about 'flattening the curve' and 'R-numbers' is really code for depopulation I do believe. The birth rate for this year will surely go down drastically for all sorts of reasons not least financial insecurity.  
The only people who won't have to worry too much about having children are the wealthy who can afford to have large homes, private healthcare etc.


Remember all the little clues and codes that Gerry McCann and Team McCann threw out in their diaries, blogs, interviews etc? I do believe that similar stuff is going on now. Boris is the perfect person to lead this plandemic as he appears to have very little moral code and he lacks empathy. In short, he's a narcissist but he's not that bright either, imo.

Bill Gates has already told us that vaccines could help reduce the world population.

The lockdowns and cancellations of non-emergency medical treatments will cost thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives. Cancellation of screening programmes will also lead to massive loss of lives.



http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/03/mayor-of-london-global-overpopulation-is-the-real-issue/

All IMO as always.

ETA: Psychopaths get people who are cleverer than them BUT WHO HAVE MORALS AND SCRUPLES to do their dirty work. In the name of God and country people will go to phoney wars etc. The nazis did this too.
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Post  poster Tue 10 Nov 2020, 2:30 pm

Which really leads me to the conclusion that

STAY AT HOME - SAVE LIVES

is complete baloney.

Okay, suppose the argument was that we need to save the NHS? Then why not reopen the Nightingale and call on retired doctors and final year students to help out? That would have been far better for health and the economy than another lockdown with more cancelled treatments and operations.
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Post  poster Tue 10 Nov 2020, 3:09 pm

But fear not, we are allowed to break lockdown to go abroad for assisted dying!

You couldn't make it up, could you? If lockdowns, cancellation of medical treatment, social distancing, shielding, social isolation, losing your job, losing your livelihood, house arrest, not seeing friends or family hasn't finished you off, there is at least one piece of good news!

YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BREAK LOCKDOWN IN ORDER TO GO ABROAD TO DIE!

Yes - if Boris and his henchmen haven't finished you off with their nonsensical rules you are allowed to die abroad!

And there I was hoping for a little sunshine holiday in order to cheer me up. Silly me! Holidays abroad are only allowed if you are planning to die. Handy for those who haven't yet succumbed to mental and physical illness due to lockdown.

Matt Hancock is not interested in keeping people happy, he likes to spread doom and gloom and watch his shares in Pfizer go through the roof!

I said it at the start of the plandemic and I'll say it again - why not just give everyone a cyanide pill? It would save the NHS and prevent the spread of covid-19 and put everyone's minds at rest that they won't infect a single person with the dreaded lurgy? Matt Hancock could even save the NHS money by using tax-payers money to put the order through to a private company - GSK perhaps? There could be exemptions for certain key workers which would include Boris and his cabinet.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Where are Monty Python when you need them?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/05/matt-hancock-people-can-break-national-coronavirus-lockdown/
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