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LIBEL/DAMAGES TRIAL McCanns v Amaral UPDATES - 21/01/15
If anyone sees any tweets/news/updates anything about the libel trial today, please could you post it here. Thank you.
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A Message From Gonçalo Amaral PJGA
Gonçalo Amaral
21 Jul 2014
Dear friends,
Upon reading the news about the most recent trial session, I am certain that the vast majority of journalists don't know what is being discussed in court, and have not reported correctly.
Let us be clear. What is at stake is to find out:
- Whether the writing of my book "Maddie: A Verdade da Mentira" was a lawful or unlawful action;
- Whether or not the plaintiffs have suffered damages and whether or not there are facts to prove it;
- Whether or not it is possible to establish a causal nexus between the book and such damages.
This is what is at stake.
Concerning the book's lawfulness, I suggest to anyone who has doubts to read the Lisbon Appellate Court's decision within the injunction that preceded the current action. The truth is that for the Appellate Court's Illustrious Judges, as can be concluded from that decision, the lawfulness of the book's publication is indisputable.
With proof of the lawfulness of the book, the matter should rest here, without the need to investigate anything further, namely concerning the damages that the plaintiffs complain about.
Nonetheless, we should note that even if the lawfulness may still be at stake, there is still the need to establish a causal nexus between the publication and the damages that the plaintiffs complain about, such as deep depression, social isolation, etc. And, of course, to prove that said damages, no matter where they originate from, really exist.
Concerning the social part, it seems obvious to me, if we pay attention to the countless social events that the plaintiffs have participated in, including speeches at the British Parliament, interviews on television shows like Oprah Winfrey's, gala dinners with illustrious personalities, namely British, among others, that said social isolation is totally false.
Concerning the depressions, although they are in no way proved within the case, in my opinion, in fact it would be very strange if they didn't exist. The disappearance of a daughter, whether she is dead or alive, whether or not she was abducted, has to originate enormous consequences of that kind. How strange would it be if that wasn't the case! But about this issue I won't say anything further, given that the plaintiffs seem to attribute to me and my book all of their pain, as if said disappearance, followed by their arguido status and other circumstances that surround the case, were of no importance, or weren't more than enough!
Unfortunately, due to clearly dilatory manoeuvres from the plaintiffs, that have once more forced a postponement of the hearing, I am afraid that the trial will drag on – as they clearly wish - and we won't have a sentence soon, as I wish would happen, and as I long for. Furthermore, the judicial holidays have already started and, as the Illustrious Judge explained, with the new judiciary organisation coming into force on the 1st of September, the process' slowness will be considerably increased.
However, my trust in Portuguese justice remains steadfast.
All that is left for me is to recognise and thank you for all the support that I have received, from all those that believe in justice and in truth, without which it would have been impossible for me to fight this lawsuit. Or to lead me to ponder, as I do, to file a lawsuit against the McCann couple and others, in order to be compensated for the enormous damages that they have caused me already, on all levels, such as moral, professional and financial.
The time to judicially react to all those who have put my privacy, my intimacy, my freedom of expression and opinion, and my survival conditions at stake is approaching.
They have tried to assassinate me civilly, but due to the support and solidarity of all of you, they were not successful.
Thank you very much,
Lisboa July 21st, 2014
Gonçalo Amaral
ETA sorry I just realised this is an old message. Candyfloss, feel free to delete if you want to.
Gonçalo Amaral
21 Jul 2014
Dear friends,
Upon reading the news about the most recent trial session, I am certain that the vast majority of journalists don't know what is being discussed in court, and have not reported correctly.
Let us be clear. What is at stake is to find out:
- Whether the writing of my book "Maddie: A Verdade da Mentira" was a lawful or unlawful action;
- Whether or not the plaintiffs have suffered damages and whether or not there are facts to prove it;
- Whether or not it is possible to establish a causal nexus between the book and such damages.
This is what is at stake.
Concerning the book's lawfulness, I suggest to anyone who has doubts to read the Lisbon Appellate Court's decision within the injunction that preceded the current action. The truth is that for the Appellate Court's Illustrious Judges, as can be concluded from that decision, the lawfulness of the book's publication is indisputable.
With proof of the lawfulness of the book, the matter should rest here, without the need to investigate anything further, namely concerning the damages that the plaintiffs complain about.
Nonetheless, we should note that even if the lawfulness may still be at stake, there is still the need to establish a causal nexus between the publication and the damages that the plaintiffs complain about, such as deep depression, social isolation, etc. And, of course, to prove that said damages, no matter where they originate from, really exist.
Concerning the social part, it seems obvious to me, if we pay attention to the countless social events that the plaintiffs have participated in, including speeches at the British Parliament, interviews on television shows like Oprah Winfrey's, gala dinners with illustrious personalities, namely British, among others, that said social isolation is totally false.
Concerning the depressions, although they are in no way proved within the case, in my opinion, in fact it would be very strange if they didn't exist. The disappearance of a daughter, whether she is dead or alive, whether or not she was abducted, has to originate enormous consequences of that kind. How strange would it be if that wasn't the case! But about this issue I won't say anything further, given that the plaintiffs seem to attribute to me and my book all of their pain, as if said disappearance, followed by their arguido status and other circumstances that surround the case, were of no importance, or weren't more than enough!
Unfortunately, due to clearly dilatory manoeuvres from the plaintiffs, that have once more forced a postponement of the hearing, I am afraid that the trial will drag on – as they clearly wish - and we won't have a sentence soon, as I wish would happen, and as I long for. Furthermore, the judicial holidays have already started and, as the Illustrious Judge explained, with the new judiciary organisation coming into force on the 1st of September, the process' slowness will be considerably increased.
However, my trust in Portuguese justice remains steadfast.
All that is left for me is to recognise and thank you for all the support that I have received, from all those that believe in justice and in truth, without which it would have been impossible for me to fight this lawsuit. Or to lead me to ponder, as I do, to file a lawsuit against the McCann couple and others, in order to be compensated for the enormous damages that they have caused me already, on all levels, such as moral, professional and financial.
The time to judicially react to all those who have put my privacy, my intimacy, my freedom of expression and opinion, and my survival conditions at stake is approaching.
They have tried to assassinate me civilly, but due to the support and solidarity of all of you, they were not successful.
Thank you very much,
Lisboa July 21st, 2014
Gonçalo Amaral
ETA sorry I just realised this is an old message. Candyfloss, feel free to delete if you want to.
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I hope we can get some updates on today
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@ Resistor & Candyfloss,
Please don't delete that message as it's a very potent reminder of what had happened up to July last year and how much, even now, is still at stake.
I hope justice prevails for this honourable man.
Please don't delete that message as it's a very potent reminder of what had happened up to July last year and how much, even now, is still at stake.
I hope justice prevails for this honourable man.
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Worth keeping an eye on this as updates will be posted here:
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/AnneGuedes.htm
Day 14 Jan 21st 2015 for reading of proven facts.
There is a possibility that “matter of facts" that the judge decided to consider isn’t going to be read publicly.
The norm is that in a civil trial the “matter of facts” isn’t publicly read but just released to the lawyers.
Public reading of the “matter of facts” is always read in penal trials.
Anne Guedes will be at court today, Wednesday 21st January 2015 for reading of proven facts
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/AnneGuedes.htm
Day 14 Jan 21st 2015 for reading of proven facts.
There is a possibility that “matter of facts" that the judge decided to consider isn’t going to be read publicly.
The norm is that in a civil trial the “matter of facts” isn’t publicly read but just released to the lawyers.
Public reading of the “matter of facts” is always read in penal trials.
Anne Guedes will be at court today, Wednesday 21st January 2015 for reading of proven facts
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Stewie wrote:Worth keeping an eye on this as updates will be posted here:
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/AnneGuedes.htm
Day 14 Jan 21st 2015 for reading of proven facts.
There is a possibility that “matter of facts" that the judge decided to consider isn’t going to be read publicly.
The norm is that in a civil trial the “matter of facts” isn’t publicly read but just released to the lawyers.
Public reading of the “matter of facts” is always read in penal trials.
Anne Guedes will be at court today, Wednesday 21st January 2015 for reading of proven facts
Thanks Stewie.
Here is her twitter a/c...
https://twitter.com/aacg
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Re: LIBEL/DAMAGES TRIAL McCanns v Amaral UPDATES - 21/01/15
Should be a short hearing then, I'm not sure that there are that many "proven facts".
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From Anne Guede's Twitter:-
@mariaccnr @sw4nvesta It was no hearing and is over. No public reading but some infos will come.
@mariaccnr @sw4nvesta It was no hearing and is over. No public reading but some infos will come.
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http://www.lux.iol.pt/nacionais/goncalo-amaral-gerry-mccann-kate-mccann-madeleine-mccann/1576860-4996.html
Fairly straightforward report with basic facts of the case, but interesting in that it states quite clearly that an out-of-court settlement was attempted.
Fairly straightforward report with basic facts of the case, but interesting in that it states quite clearly that an out-of-court settlement was attempted.
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Dave Heavy on Twitter reporting good news from Portugal
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Resistor wrote:
Thanks
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Dave Heavy @Heavy_Dave 24m24 minutes ago
I'm hearing good things from Lisbon.#quietlyconfident #mccann
I'm hearing good things from Lisbon.
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Great pic on twitter
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Ima van den Hoek @parapono 8 mins8 minutes ago
#mccann Isabel Duarte was nor present. Gonçalo Amaral was absent as well, not being well. I understood. Verdict will be sent to parties 1/2
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#Mccann 2/2 This was the last session. The verdict will be in writing. When? Two months from now is an optimistic guess, Amarals lawyer said
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Resistor wrote:http://www.lux.iol.pt/nacionais/goncalo-amaral-gerry-mccann-kate-mccann-madeleine-mccann/1576860-4996.html
Fairly straightforward report with basic facts of the case, but interesting in that it states quite clearly that an out-of-court settlement was attempted.
A google translation of the above link has the headline as "Maddie case: Court today unveils matter proved against Gonçalo Amaral", although the body of the article says nothing of the sort. I'm hoping it's a mistranslation
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AndyB wrote:Resistor wrote:http://www.lux.iol.pt/nacionais/goncalo-amaral-gerry-mccann-kate-mccann-madeleine-mccann/1576860-4996.html
Fairly straightforward report with basic facts of the case, but interesting in that it states quite clearly that an out-of-court settlement was attempted.
A google translation of the above link has the headline as "Maddie case: Court today unveils matter proved against Gonçalo Amaral", although the body of the article says nothing of the sort. I'm hoping it's a mistranslation
The word should be 'provided' not 'proved'
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chrissie wrote:AndyB wrote:Resistor wrote:http://www.lux.iol.pt/nacionais/goncalo-amaral-gerry-mccann-kate-mccann-madeleine-mccann/1576860-4996.html
Fairly straightforward report with basic facts of the case, but interesting in that it states quite clearly that an out-of-court settlement was attempted.
A google translation of the above link has the headline as "Maddie case: Court today unveils matter proved against Gonçalo Amaral", although the body of the article says nothing of the sort. I'm hoping it's a mistranslation
The word should be 'provided' not 'proved'
Thanks chrissie, that makes a difference.
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Dave Heavy @Heavy_Dave 2m2 minutes ago
#McCann 11. Because of the statements made by defendant GA .... the PJ stopped collecting information and investigating : Not proved.
7:48 AM - 21 Jan 2015 · Details
Dave Heavy @Heavy_Dave 35s35 seconds ago
12. .... K & G #McCann are completely destroyed, .... beyond the pain that their daughter’s absence causes them? : Not proved.
Anyone know who Dave is?
#McCann 11. Because of the statements made by defendant GA .... the PJ stopped collecting information and investigating : Not proved.
7:48 AM - 21 Jan 2015 · Details
Dave Heavy @Heavy_Dave 35s35 seconds ago
12. .... K & G #McCann are completely destroyed, .... beyond the pain that their daughter’s absence causes them? : Not proved.
Anyone know who Dave is?
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Dave Heavy @Heavy_Dave 22s22 seconds ago
13 . .... K & G #McCann suffer permanent anguish, insomnia, lack of appetite, anxiety and irritability, etc? : Proved ....... but
not sure whether Dave is reporting or summising
13 . .... K & G #McCann suffer permanent anguish, insomnia, lack of appetite, anxiety and irritability, etc? : Proved ....... but
not sure whether Dave is reporting or summising
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Dave Heavy @Heavy_Dave 37 secs38 seconds ago
13 . .... K & G#McCann suffer permanent anguish, insomnia, lack of appetite, anxiety and irritability, etc? : Proved ....... but
13 . .... K & G
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Babalou @B_balou 20 secs21 seconds ago
@czarkaztik News reports are saying that it was given as proven that GA's book harmed the #McCann s > http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/sociedade/maddie-mccann/maddie-tribunal-considera-que-goncalo-amaral-causou-danos-aos-mccann …
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Babalou @B_balou 47s47 seconds ago
@czarkaztik News reports are saying that it was given as proven that GA's book harmed the #McCann s > http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/sociedade/maddie-mccann/maddie-tribunal-considera-que-goncalo-amaral-causou-danos-aos-mccann …
sorry Candyfloss got there first
@czarkaztik News reports are saying that it was given as proven that GA's book harmed the #McCann s > http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/sociedade/maddie-mccann/maddie-tribunal-considera-que-goncalo-amaral-causou-danos-aos-mccann …
sorry Candyfloss got there first
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