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Post  Andrew on Fri 19 Aug 2016, 9:58 pm

Cheers for that. Now the footy has finished, I will have a read up.

Hope you had a good hol.
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Sat 20 Aug 2016, 8:07 am

It's fascinating and really interesting reading up on the early stuff that was bounced about on that forum. Some really good and informative posters... I wonder where are they all now?

It beggars belief that this charade is still going on all these years later.
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Hope on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 8:38 pm

AFAIR there was no proof of ROB being off work on sick leave or any breakdown at the time. I was on the 3A and it was a comment that grew legs and became often quoted fact. His career certainly has not suffered.
When he was absent from the picture of the other six outside the Court in London there was huge speculation.
Was it in his rog that he emphasised Jane was not his wife just the mother of his girls?
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Heisenburg on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 1:32 pm

Just been reading elsewhere about the dogs and expanding on it a bit,Eddie alerts to Cadaver by barking,Keela alerts to blood by pointing at the spot with her nose,now its reckoned that Eddie also alerts to blood,if so why the use of two dogs when the one will do? also if Eddie does also alert to blood,how is it differentiated by how the dog alerts,any one know?
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Post  candyfloss on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 1:44 pm

Heisenburg wrote:Just been reading elsewhere about the dogs and expanding on it a bit,Eddie alerts to Cadaver by barking,Keela alerts to blood by pointing at the spot with her nose,now its reckoned that Eddie also alerts to blood,if so why the use of two dogs when the one will do? also if Eddie does also alert to blood,how is it differentiated by how the dog alerts,any one know?

28 pages of this thread discussing it Heisenburg.... have a look back.

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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Heisenburg on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 1:59 pm

candyfloss wrote:
Heisenburg wrote:Just been reading elsewhere about the dogs and expanding on it a bit,Eddie alerts to Cadaver by barking,Keela alerts to blood by pointing at the spot with her nose,now its reckoned that Eddie also alerts to blood,if so why the use of two dogs when the one will do? also if Eddie does also alert to blood,how is it differentiated by how the dog alerts,any one know?

28 pages of this thread discussing it Heisenburg.... have a look back.

I know,but can't find any where it says Eddie alerts differently to blood by giving a different signal.My point being,Eddie alerted to supposed cadaver behind the settee,then Keela was brought in and alerted to blood,why was Keela brought in? was it to confirm blood that Eddie alerted to,where is a different signal from Eddie that leads to them suspecting blood or is there not and its a myth.

I think M Grime answers it himself.So it is a myth.

I have trained and handle two operational specialist search dogs: 'Eddie' is a 7-year-old English Springer spaniel dog who is trained as an Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog (EVRD).

'Keela' is a three-year old English Springer spaniel bitch who is trained as an Human blood search dog (C.S.I. dog).
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 2:12 pm

Totally irrelevant to the topic thread (didn't know where to put it). But just seen this tweet from this chap.

N.M ‏@AdirenM 11m11 minutes ago
Gerald #McCann was not the man in charge of the trashing of the apartment. But that will have to be kept secret until PT publishes PJ files.

Interesting if true.....
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Heisenburg on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 2:26 pm

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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 2:34 pm

Cheers H.

Not sure if it warranted being on there though. As this was the most recent topic in the discussion thread, I just parked it here.
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Wed 07 Sep 2016, 3:27 pm

https://mauinow.com/2016/08/30/capobianco-trail-cadaver-dogs-alert-searchers-to-wooded-area/
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Wed 07 Sep 2016, 3:30 pm

http://www.whas11.com/news/investigations/investigator-confident-crystal-rogers-case-will-go-to-trial/312038109
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Satsuma on Wed 07 Sep 2016, 3:36 pm

Heisenburg wrote:Just been reading elsewhere about the dogs and expanding on it a bit,Eddie alerts to Cadaver by barking,Keela alerts to blood by pointing at the spot with her nose,now its reckoned that Eddie also alerts to blood,if so why the use of two dogs when the one will do? also if Eddie does also alert to blood,how is it differentiated by how the dog alerts,any one know?

Eddie's alerts were more general - the scent of cadaver and/or blood somewhere in the vicinity. Once he had detected that, Keela would be brought in to pinpoint the exact spot with her nose so that swabs could be taken
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Post  Châtelaine on Wed 07 Sep 2016, 4:06 pm

And, in this respect, the interesting thing is that Keela did NOT alert in the master bedroom ...
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Wed 07 Sep 2016, 6:51 pm

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

Between 3pm on August 4th 2007 and 6.30am on August 5th 2007, the following samples were recovered in the living room of apartment 5A at the OCEAN CLUB where a murder probably took place.

Never really noticed that bit before even though I've read it on more than one occasion.

Anyway, thought I'd stick it up.
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Satsuma on Wed 07 Sep 2016, 9:39 pm

I've never noticed that either Andrew, and I've got no idea what it's doing there either. Eddie and Keela were very good at their jobs, but neither of them could tell the difference between an accident and murder!
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Wed 07 Sep 2016, 10:02 pm

Satsuma wrote:I've never noticed that either Andrew, and I've got no idea what it's doing there either.  Eddie and Keela were very good at their jobs, but neither of them could tell the difference between an accident and murder!

I don't think Eddie and Keela wrote up that report, Satsuma.

But get your point.

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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Thu 08 Sep 2016, 11:04 am

http://sfist.com/2016/09/07/authorities_dig_up_cal_poly_campus.php

The latest lead came after the three cadaver dogs, two Springer spaniels and a German shepard mix trained on Civil War battlegrounds and sensitive to the scent of human decomposition, honed in on three sites on this hillside, where digging begins in earnest today.
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 9:13 pm

Good dogs. Bad teacher.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3787691/Ana-Carrera-charged-having-marijuana-bag-teaching-class-Lanier-High-School-San-Antonio-Texas.html
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  Andrew on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 11:04 pm

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/13/is-kristen-smart-buried-in-this-backyard-neighbors-and-a-wonder-dog-say-yes.html
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Post  Heisenburg on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 4:10 pm

Apologise if its been posted before,just seen a link on twitter.

http://www.policek9.com/Fleck/Cadaver%20Dogs.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-74,792
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Capabilities of "google"?

Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 07 Jan 2017, 7:15 pm

Reading across the road there and someone searched Madeleine McCann on Google maps. Up comes a place in Portugal labelled "Madeleine McCanns crib". Tried it myself but nothing came up, then another poster posted a link and there it was! What's that all about! scratch must be just a joke, I know, I know. Shocked

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Post  Andrew on Sat 07 Jan 2017, 9:40 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Reading across the road there and someone searched Madeleine McCann on Google maps. Up comes a place in Portugal labelled "Madeleine McCanns crib". Tried it myself but nothing came up, then another poster posted a link and there it was! What's that all about! scratch  must be just a joke, I know, I know. Shocked

I just tried it and this came up:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Madeleine+McCann's+crib/@39.399872,-8.7847567,9z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0xd186981a9751601:0x104fbf91e8eaf1f3!8m2!3d39.399872!4d-8.224454
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Re: Capabilities of the Dogs

Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 07 Jan 2017, 9:57 pm

Strange. I didn't get it when I put it in but I got it in your link and the one across the way? Probably a joke, but I didn't think any Tom, Dick or Harry could alter google maps?

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Post  Andrew on Sat 07 Jan 2017, 10:11 pm

I just zoomed in on the link and changed it to satellite. I suppose if you wanted to dispose of something then that looks a good a place as any.

Not sure how you can add things on Google Maps etc but clearly someone has here though.
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Post  unreorganised on Sat 07 Jan 2017, 11:39 pm

Andrew wrote:I just zoomed in on the link and changed it to satellite. I suppose if you wanted to dispose of something then that looks a good a place as any.

Been through Abrantes on the train. If anybody likes a bit of trainspotting then a trip to nearby Entroncamento is highly recommended. If not, then it's just a dull provincial hellhole to get stuck in when your connection goes wrong....
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