Capabilities of the Dogs

Bubblewrapped wrote:I find the dogs findings overwhelming, but am at a loss as to why Operation Grange has not taken the same course  
Anyone with ideas ?

candyfloss wrote:They even think the dogs work on a 'no win no fee' basis



Jencalo_Amoral ‏@TheJENReturns  · 21 mins21 minutes ago  
Is this why PJ failed to pay any money for the dogs work?  Ask yourself was it a case of no result/no payment agreement? #McCann

candyfloss wrote:

Bubblewrapped wrote:I find the dogs findings overwhelming, but am at a loss as to why Operation Grange has not taken the same course  
Anyone with ideas ?

We don't know what course Op Grange has taken.  What we do know is that they obviously trust in the dogs as they recently took them over to PDL to search the area.  Now would they really use them if they didn't have faith in their abilities?

Andrew wrote:

candyfloss wrote:

Bubblewrapped wrote:I find the dogs findings overwhelming, but am at a loss as to why Operation Grange has not taken the same course  
Anyone with ideas ?

We don't know what course Op Grange has taken.  What we do know is that they obviously trust in the dogs as they recently took them over to PDL to search the area.  Now would they really use them if they didn't have faith in their abilities?

They took 4 dogs over.

They wouldn't of done if they thought they were all notoriously unreliable.

Susanna Reid meets the dog owner whose pooch saved her from lung cancer

SUSANNA REID and Ben Shephard met the dog owner whose pooch saved her from lung cancer.

By ADAM MILLER
PUBLISHED: 07:47, Tue, Aug 11, 2015 | UPDATED: 08:01, Tue, Aug 11, 2015

SUsanna stroked Ben Shephard as they met cancer survivor Coleen
During this morning's Good Morning Britain Colleen Ferguson brought her beloved dog into the ITV studio, explaining that she may have died if it wasn't for her Alsatian.
"I've got a best friend who saved my life," Coleen told Susanna and Ben.
"She's a very vocal, very noisy, very lively dog but all of sudden she would jump and become really still.

Coleen said the dog would simply linger about a millimetre away from which Susanna asked must have been "unnerving"
Coleen replied: "Yes and no because I've worked with dogs all my life but part of me thought was there something wrong with my teeth?
"The behaviour persisted and you're just aware of your dog lingering in on you.
"I didn't go the GP because I thought they'll laugh at me."
Luckily, Coleen had been working in a nearby school where she managed to save some money for a full body scan.
When the results came in her surgery asked her to come in "immediately".
"She picked it up at stage 1 which is very unusual. Lung cancer's a silent killer but I've never smoked I've never even bought a cigarette."

Researchers are closing in on exactly what it is that cadaver dogs are sniffing for when they’re deployed. That uniquely human “smell of death” may be created when a combination of compounds, called esters, is released by a decomposing body, according to findings published in PLoS ONE this week.

When we and other animals decompose, a wide spectrum of volatile organic compounds (VOCs) is emitted into the environment. Previous work to characterize that smell had already identified a variety of compounds, but a specific marker for human decomposition hadn't been isolated.

So, University of Leuven’s Elien Rosier and colleagues examined the compounds that were released over the course of six months from the decomposing remains of six humans and 26 animals: rabbits, mice, moles, frogs, chicks, robins, a woodpecker, warbler, sparrow, song thrush, sturgeon, turtle, and of course, a pig. Pig remains are often used as human analogues because of we have similar hair coverage, weight, fat to muscle ratio, gut fauna and biochemistry. Organs from the human and pig remains were also removed and analyzed separately.

Because decomposition can be influenced by environmental factors ranging from temperature and humidity to soil type, the team placed the remains into glass jars in a lab environment at room temperature. The metal screw caps on the jars weren’t airtight in order to let oxygen enter, and they had a hole in them that made it possible for the researchers to periodically sample the headspace.

The team identified 452 compounds, and a specific combination of eight compounds distinguished human and pig remains from other animal remains. Furthermore, the researchers managed to separate the pig remains from human remains based on five esters – compounds found in fat and oils. If you’re curious, they are: 3-methylbutyl pentanoate, 3-methylbutyl 3-methylbutyrate, 3-methylbutyl 2-methylbutyrate, butyl pentanoate and propyl hexanoate.

Future work in the field with full bodies will be needed to corroborate these results. Having human specific markers could help better train cadaver dogs, making them more efficient and faster at locating bodies. Also, it might be possible to develop a portable device sensitive enough to locate human remains.

Freedom wrote:Again to avoid any misunderstandings, Resistor is referring to tuberculosis!

Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:I ventured into the Justice Forum for Madeleine McCann last night as it was very quiet on here, I do roam around occasionally just out of curiosity (well, really 'cos I'm just nosy), but it's unbelievable how much hatred there is for Martin Grimes and Eddie and Keela, they seem to go out of their way to discredit him and his dogs.  They come up with such stupid notions of what the dogs may have detected or how there isn't really any scientific backing as to what Eddie and Keela found.  They dismiss the fact that murder cases have been brought without any body being found but solely on what specialist dogs have found backed up by a court case.

Someone is even asking when was the first time that Eddie and Keela worked together, FFS, what difference does that make in the scheme of things.  They seem to be so desperate on the pro McCann sites that they're clutching at every straw they can find.

With reference to sniffer dogs finding bodies under water, I remember when April Jones first went missing, specially trained dogs were brought in that could detect bodies submerged in water, yet the pro McCann sites are in denial of what Eddie and Keela found.

No wonder Martin Grimes moved to the USA, I wonder if he was specially sent there to get him away from the clutches of the McCanns so they couldn't harass him.  GM went to his boss I recall, that is harassment in itself surely.  GM obviously wasn't happy with what evidence Martin Grimes discovered.