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Marilyn Monroe

Post  Freedom on Tue 28 Oct 2014, 11:50 am

A new programme about the still debated death of Marilyn Monroe.

http://www.channel5.com/shows/conspiracy-the-missing-evidence/episodes/episode-1-679

A clanger in the first part refers to her attending JFK's 50th birthday celebrations - he died when he was 46!
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Post  Châtelaine on Tue 28 Oct 2014, 12:41 pm

Sloppy ...

But there are images of at least one birthday, she attended to and sang "Happy Birthday, Mr. President" ...
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Post  Freedom on Tue 28 Oct 2014, 12:49 pm

Yes, it was his 45th birthday at which she appeared and sang to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqolSvoWNck
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Post  Châtelaine on Tue 28 Oct 2014, 1:23 pm

Have you noticed, that she was announced as the "late" Marilyn Monroe?
If memory serves me she died shortly afterwards.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 28 Oct 2014, 3:59 pm

That was a joke because of her unfortunate reputation of being late for everything.

The president's birthday was in May; she died in August.

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Post  Châtelaine on Tue 28 Oct 2014, 5:18 pm

So she was late and then she was the late ... and a year later he was late too.
Puzzling affair, I must say.
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Thoughts on Conspiracy Theories

Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 6:12 pm

It seems to me (if you read the internet anyway) that the new religion of the day is conspiracy theories. Seriously why don't you believe that things happen as you are told? Every man is a paedofile. Every policeman is corrupt. Every government official makes everything up to hide their dodgy dealings from the stupid people. All these things happen and none of its real. All to control us? Really!

What a way to live.

I worked for the government for many many years. None of this stuff goes on. Do u really think that every civil servant is gonna just turn a blind eye and say nothing.  I'm a normal person with normal morals. I don't think so!!

Back in the day conspiracy theorists were loons. David Icke their god, and derided. What has changed for it to be normal?! The internet has opened my eyes to how many nut jobs around.

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Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 7:30 pm

dawnie_c wrote: Seriously why don't you believe that things happen as you are told?

Brilliant, if Carlsberg did irony. That should be put up as a forum banner

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Post  chirpyinsect on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 7:31 pm

So if I understand you correctly. you are saying we should just accept that everything we are told by officialdom is the way it happened. OK let`s begin with Hillsborough. Did that happen the way we were told?
If we are to accept that what TPTB tell us happens is gospel then we may as all well go home and read the MSM, listen to the BBC and behave like good little citizens.
And I object most strongly to being called a nut job because you believe everything you are told by the government that pays your wages.
I did not intend to finish the Christmas good spirits on here by having to defend my right to question anything I don`t accept. If you chose that path that is up to you but please respect others who prefer to look deeper.
Tell me why Dunblane is under 100 year lock down. Explain Sandy Hook.
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Re: Thoughts on Conspiracy Theories

Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 7:34 pm

cheers Great post chirpy

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Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 8:26 pm

......the laws of physics suspended on 9/11 when buildings came down at freefall speed. Iirc 9m per second squared. 

It's more difficult to hide contrived events now, but Operation  Gladius is a fact and started soon after WWII. 
The bombing of the Bologna station in the eighties was done by the then government, 80 + people died. It's on record. False flag ops are old as the hills. 

However, in the McCann case I used to believe there was a concerted effort to cover up full stop. I no longer believe this - it all started to unravel in September 07 which became clear by going through the day by day events after they were arguidos. 
The 'conspiracy' (pretty ham-fisted one) to go along with the McCann story -yes absolutely. 
After Sept. 07  the MSM really took over the goose that laid the golden eggs - why give it up that early? Lots of mileage in the story still as we have seen. 

First some mediocre people with a cunning plan - then: meddling vain and ambitious Blair... Then: something in it for pretty well everyone -  the McCann case is much more than a missing child, it's a modern parable about greed imo.

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Post  dogs don't lie on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 9:05 pm

It just goes to show what most people think, will never be heard if they don't want you to know

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Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 9:50 pm

Sorry to be a pain. It's hard to reply to what people said on the other thread here.


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Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 9:56 pm

Thomas Baden-Riess wrote:
dawnie_c wrote: Seriously why don't you believe that things happen as you are told?

Brilliant, if Carlsberg did irony. That should be put up as a forum banner

Ok yes yes fair enough.

I didn't quite word that right did I.

I'll try and explain what I meant in the other thread. But not tonight.

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Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 10:03 pm

chirpyinsect wrote:
So if I understand you correctly. you are saying we should just accept that everything we are told by officialdom is the way it happened. OK let`s begin with Hillsborough. Did that happen the way we were told?
If we are to accept that what TPTB tell us happens is gospel then we may as all well go home and read the MSM, listen to the BBC and behave like good little citizens.
And I object most strongly to being called a nut job because you believe everything you are told by the government that pays your wages.
I did not intend to finish the Christmas good spirits on here by having to defend my right to question anything I don`t accept. If you chose that path that is up to you but please respect others who prefer to look deeper.
Tell me why Dunblane is under 100 year lock down. Explain Sandy Hook.

What is tptb?

The only person making u finish your christmas like that is you. Dont take it all so seriously.

I'll reply tomorrow if I can be bothered.

And as for Sandy hook! One of the sickest conspiracy sever started.

I don't work for the government now they do not pay my wages. I said I used to. So you accuse civil servants of all being corrupt?

Oh and no you didn't understand my post correctly.


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Post  Freedom on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 10:04 pm

TPTB = the powers that be.

It's just that what you said is a bit surprising. If we all believed the official stories about everything (no matter how ridiculous they are) we wouldn't be here now on this forum!
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Scientific study reveals conspircy theorists the most sane of all

Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 10:18 pm

I wish these comments could be moved maybe please. So I can reply more clearly tomorrow when I'm on my pc. Phone doesn't help with clear thinking.

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Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 10:26 pm

Not everybody is out to get you. Not everything you hear is a lie. Not every incident has a hidden agenda. some things are just as they seem. Sometimes you are not told everything for a reason. Because there is no need for you to know. So you make things up to make sense of it. Too many wild imaginations. It's not always sinister you know.

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Post  Freedom on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 10:54 pm

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Post  Guest on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 10:59 pm

I've decided tonight I can't be arsed. Freedom can u delete my whole profile and comments please. Thanks very much. Please people don't take life so seriously. It doesn't mean u are stupid just because you don't want to live your life questioning every bloody thing you are told. Life is too short to be stuck on this shit. Go and enjoy it before you are gone! And remember from someone who worked at the government in a job that knows everything that goes on. Yes the bloody secretary's know everything trust me. I never once saw a conspiracy in all my days there.

Tony Blair (c you next tuesday) and back scratching yes. He got found out tho and it came out. As normal people ain't corrupt. And don't sit back and keep quiet.


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Post  Freedom on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 11:04 pm

I can delete your comments but not your whole account; only Candyfloss can do that.

Please will you take time out and see if that's still what you want to do.

There's no reason for you to leave as far as I'm concerned.

We can't agree on everything.
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Post  Rob Royston on Sat 27 Dec 2014, 3:03 am

dawnie_c wrote:. Please people don't take life so seriously. It doesn't mean u are stupid just because you don't want to live your life questioning every bloody thing you are told. Life is too short to be stuck on this shit. Go and enjoy it before you are gone!

But life is serious. For some people around this World it is deadly serious and we cannot enjoy our lives when we are aware that our governments are responsible for the destruction of the lives of innocents.

Fifty years ago, beginning my apprenticeship, I was told not to believe anything I heard and only half of what I saw, in other words question everything as things are seldom what they appear to be, work things out for yourself as much as possible and thus become trusting in your own judgement. Today, education is geared to teach people to follow the rulebook, don't question why just look for the laid down procedures and get on with it. If we were to teach people in the old fashion today we would need to tell them not to believe anything they saw either as it will usually be in video format and we all know what can be done with pictures and videos.

People can enjoy life and still spend some of their time searching for truth and justice. It's the balance that's important. That balance can sometimes mean that more time than normal is spent on a particular subject that troubles us. This is how it should be, an enquiring mind should be the norm, unfortunately a lot of people have their minds shut down through their education and through the constant bombardment of misinformation by the media.

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Post  Guest on Sat 27 Dec 2014, 3:16 am

Speaking as somebody who has been through education and attained a degree within the last 15 years, I can't agree with that.  Sounds like the old 'university of life' and 'school of hard knocks' line to me.  I know many people with various levels of degree, and they are virtually all good critical thinkers.  That old 'the more educated you are the less common sense you have' thing isn't remotely true.  Intelligence is good for lots of things, not just remembering facts.  And the 'nerd' stereotype is just something that the TV and film industry has created.  Hmm, here's another film with a bunch of kids, I wonder which one is the clever one?  Oh that's right - it's the one with the mad (or slicked back) hair, and glasses that are held together with a plaster.

@dawnie_c - I can see where you're coming from.  I only veer towards 'conspiracy theories' when I've seriously researched the evidence, and found the evidence to be overwhelming.  For me that includes the McCanns, and 9/11.  I don't automatically assume that governments or 'secret agencies' are behind everything.  It's not my default position - I require evidence first.

I would add to that though that I don't automatically assume that governments (or the media) always tell the truth either. Far from it. Like I said, I'm a curious person and I form my conclusions from evidence.

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Post  Mimi on Sat 27 Dec 2014, 5:55 am

Rob Royston wrote:
dawnie_c wrote:. Please people don't take life so seriously. It doesn't mean u are stupid just because you don't want to live your life questioning every bloody thing you are told. Life is too short to be stuck on this shit. Go and enjoy it before you are gone!  

But life is serious. For some people around this World it is deadly serious and we cannot enjoy our lives when we are aware that our governments are responsible for the destruction of the lives of innocents.

Fifty years ago, beginning my apprenticeship, I was told not to believe anything I heard and only half of what I saw, in other words question everything as things are seldom what they appear to be, work things out for yourself as much as possible and thus become trusting in your own judgement. Today, education is geared to teach people to follow the rulebook, don't question why just look for the laid down procedures and get on with it. If we were to teach people in the old fashion today we would need to tell them not to believe anything they saw either as it will usually be in video format and we all know what can be done with pictures and videos.

People can enjoy life and still spend some of their time searching for truth and justice. It's the balance that's important. That balance can sometimes mean that more time than normal is spent on a particular subject that troubles us. This is how it should be, an enquiring mind should be the norm, unfortunately a lot of people have their minds shut down through their education and through the constant bombardment of misinformation by the media.

Couldn`t agree more.



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Post  chirpyinsect on Sat 27 Dec 2014, 6:39 am

dawnie_c wrote:
chirpyinsect wrote:
So if I understand you correctly. you are saying we should just accept that everything we are told by officialdom is the way it happened. OK let`s begin with Hillsborough. Did that happen the way we were told?
If we are to accept that what TPTB tell us happens is gospel then we may as all well go home and read the MSM, listen to the BBC and behave like good little citizens.
And I object most strongly to being called a nut job because you believe everything you are told by the government that pays your wages.
I did not intend to finish the Christmas good spirits on here by having to defend my right to question anything I don`t accept. If you chose that path that is up to you but please respect others who prefer to look deeper.
Tell me why Dunblane is under 100 year lock down. Explain Sandy Hook.

What is tptb?

The only person making u finish your christmas like that is you. Dont take it all so seriously.

I'll reply tomorrow if I can be bothered.

And as for Sandy hook! One of the sickest conspiracy sever started.

I don't work for the government now they do not pay my wages. I said I used to. So you accuse civil servants of all being corrupt?

Oh and no you didn't understand my post correctly.

Then please explain your post without putting words in my mouth. Where did I accuse all civil servants of being corrupt? The Christmas good spirits are well and truly over if you go around calling others lunatics. Did you think no one would take you up on that?
You mention Sandy Hook as a sick conspiracy so they do exist then? Sometimes, for reasons we are not made aware of, governments do things for nefarious purposes. Fear is the biggest controlling factor a government can use to keep its people in check. What better way than to threaten our children?
The lust for power corrupts humanity and the fear of losing it makes politicians vulnerable. People with chequered pasts make the best puppets for those who wield the real power in our society.
You claim never to have witnessed a cover up in your working life. Doesn`t that just mean they never let you know about it?
Most people who question what goes on in this world do so with consideration. Most people open their eyes to the evidence around them and most people are not nut jobs as you so insultingly stated. We are just not prepared to accept that if something smells of sea bass it isn`t always fish.

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