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Post  candyfloss on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 2:11 pm

Thursday, February 5, 2015



McCanns vs Amaral verdict nearing


The verdict in the Kate and Gerry McCann’s civil action against the former lead detective Gonçalo Amaral may come sooner than expected because of a recent behind-the-scenes development in the long-drawn-out case.

The question of whether or not Kate and Gerry McCann are legally entitled to represent their daughter Madeleine in their claim for damages has taken a significant step closer to being resolved, according to a source close to the process.
Madeleine was made a ward of court in the UK in April 2008. In January last year, Amaral argued in Lisbon’s Palace of Justice that because Madeleine was still a ward of court the McCanns did not have the legal right to represent her in their Lisbon lawsuit against him and three other parties.
The Lisbon judge, Emília Melo e Castro, gave Madeleine’s parents the opportunity to obtain appropriate documentation about the ward of court matter from the British High Court.
The McCanns had a 30-day set period in which to present this. They did so without delay and much earlier than expected. The documentation was presented to the Lisbon court through the couple’s lawyers on 23 January. None of the defence lawyers has or is expected to raise any objections.
So it is now up to the Lisbon judge to decide the relatively straightforward matter of whether the documentation attests to the McCanns’ right to represent Madeleine. When this is settled, the trial is expected to move towards its last formal exchanges and then, finally, sooner than most people had anticipated, perhaps next month, a verdict.
The McCanns are seeking €1.2 million in damages for the severe distress they say has been caused to them by Amaral’s book, A Verdade da Mentira (‘The Truth of the Lie’), and a subsequent documentary.
The judge’s recent summary of the main points in the case that had been proved or not proved left Amaral and his supporters optimistic about the eventual outcome.
Amaral said this week that he was hoping for an acquittal and the lifting of financial difficulties that have burdened him since the McCanns decided to sue five years ago. 






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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 2:37 pm

The judge has a beautiful name and on that basis alone I'm hopeful she'll do the right thing!

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Post  costello on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 2:46 pm

Hope this is a good sign and justice prevails as it should.

Sorry Candyfloss I have already posted on the Libel/Damages thread.
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Post  TheTruthWillOut on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 3:43 pm

This is some good news. Considering all the headlines about how the Portuguese judicial system is in chaos, someone seems to want this case to be concluded sooner rather than later.

Is it likely that OG can't really move forward until a judgement in this case is reached or are they really separate?

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Post  costello on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 3:56 pm

I have been thinking the same, obviously a need to hurry the verdict along.
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Post  Mimi on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 4:36 pm

This sounds as if the McCanns had the documents ready right after the last Hearing. We don`t know exactly what they`re going to prove though.

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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 4:58 pm

Hope I am wrong but I don't feel optimistic about this. If it does not go his way the McCann's have the extra leverage which might come after, which is putting the boot in to condemn those awful trolls, described in that article by Cristobel. Is this why SP is waiting for her film to go ,out all very suspect imo. They had those documents ready pretty quick.

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Post  dogs don't lie on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:01 pm

Does this mean the mcs can represent Madeleine and therefore the claim for her? Sorry, bit slow on the uptake Embarassed

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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:02 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Does this mean the mcs can represent Madeleine and therefore the claim for her? Sorry, bit slow on the uptake  Embarassed
It may be, nobody knows yet; I don't actually like the sound of it either, TBH.

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Post  candyfloss on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:13 pm

Markus 2 wrote:Hope I am wrong but I don't feel optimistic about this. If it does not go his way the McCann's have the extra leverage which might come after, which is putting the boot in to  condemn those awful trolls,  described in that article by Cristobel. Is this why SP is waiting for her film to go ,out all very suspect imo. They had those documents ready pretty quick.

Happy little person aren't you Neutral  Please do not start on that in this thread.  What trolls have to do with a damages trial about a book and documentary has me scratch

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Post  LombardySkeptik on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:14 pm

None of the proven facts damaged Madeleine in any way--did they?
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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:20 pm

Another way of putting it, Let's hope he gets off but if not think of the how all those McCann haters and trolls as they call us will come out of this, if it goes their way.

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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:22 pm

I need to go and re- read the trial timeline. I thought the judge first asked for this WOC documentation last year.

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Post  bluebell on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:24 pm

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dogs don't lie wrote:Does this mean the mcs can represent Madeleine and therefore the claim for her? Sorry, bit slow on the uptake  Embarassed
It may be, nobody knows yet; I don't actually like the sound of it either, TBH.




I don't suppose the McC's are feeling very confident either really.
Don't forget they already tried to get an out-of-court settlement some two years ago - I have always hoped that was from desperation that they felt things weren't going to go their way. Smile
Now we've read the judge's decisions on their claims and they have very few "proven" if I understand correctly.

I am trying to be cautiously optimistic.

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Post  candyfloss on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:25 pm

Russian Doll wrote:  I need to go and re- read the trial timeline. I thought the judge first asked for this WOC documentation last year.

She did  I thought .

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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:50 pm

Candyfloss.. what has happened to the Sun interview/Cristobell thread please ? Not on the portal .

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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:27 pm

quote I don`t see how any conclusions can be made until a court decides what actually happened to Maddie.

Yes I agree, No conclusive evidence , mistakes happen Hillsborough ,etc etc how can they prove what was written was wrong surely he can use this in his defence.

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Post  margaret on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:33 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Does this mean the mcs can represent Madeleine and therefore the claim for her? Sorry, bit slow on the uptake  Embarassed

It reads to me like this is the decision they are going to make... Whether Maddie can be represented by K&G, and if they can't it means a lot more of their case crumbles.

I don't see any reason to be glum, the initial rulings were that very few of their points were proven. How do they hope to win?
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Post  Dee Coy on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:35 pm

Not sure what to make of this. The speed at which the McCanns presented the documents makes me a bit uncomfortable. They were given 30 days, the deed was done and dusted in 2.

It's probably just me, but that indicates a degree of confidence from the Mc camp. The fact that they seemingly didn't present the documents last year when requested smacks of delaying tactics?  Now they're all ready, all tied up in a bow and handed in in double quick time which would indicate they were available all along.

Surely if the McCanns were unconfident they'd try to delay further?

Of course, it could he that they're resigned to the outcome and see no further point in prevaricating, on the other hand.

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Post  Châtelaine on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:38 pm

"prevaricating"
I had to look that up in the dictionary ...
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Post  canada12 on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:41 pm

Or they can't afford to pay their lawyer any more and are billed by the hour, so this gets that off the lawyer's plate quickly? Just a thought.
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Post  candyfloss on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:41 pm

Russian Doll wrote:Candyfloss.. what has happened to the Sun interview/Cristobell thread please ? Not on the portal .

Still there in Latest News where it was RD, no posts on it since was locked.

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Post  candyfloss on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:44 pm

Dee Coy wrote:Not sure what to make of this. The speed at which the McCanns presented the documents makes me a bit uncomfortable. They were given 30 days, the deed was done and dusted in 2.

It's probably just me, but that indicates a degree of confidence from the Mc camp. The fact that they seemingly didn't present the documents last year when requested smacks of delaying tactics?  Now they're all ready, all tied up in a bow and handed in in double quick time which would indicate they were available all along.

Surely if the McCanns were unconfident they'd try to delay further?

Of course, it could he that they're resigned to the outcome and see no further point in prevaricating, on the other hand.

Dee Coy the judge asked for these a long time ago.  I think the trial was delayed because of it months ago IIRC. They would have already been handed in or were ready at the very least imo.

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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:45 pm

I just read on twitter that they were handed in on Jan 23rd. I don't know whether that is true though.

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Post  Guest on Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:51 pm

candyfloss wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:Not sure what to make of this. The speed at which the McCanns presented the documents makes me a bit uncomfortable. They were given 30 days, the deed was done and dusted in 2.

It's probably just me, but that indicates a degree of confidence from the Mc camp. The fact that they seemingly didn't present the documents last year when requested smacks of delaying tactics?  Now they're all ready, all tied up in a bow and handed in in double quick time which would indicate they were available all along.

Surely if the McCanns were unconfident they'd try to delay further?

Of course, it could he that they're resigned to the outcome and see no further point in prevaricating, on the other hand.

Dee Coy the judge asked for these a long time ago.  I think the trial was delayed because of it months ago IIRC. They would have already been handed in or were ready at the very least imo.

Maybe but now before time ? is it all now wrapped up for them at this point a cert maybe


Of course,

it could he that they're resigned to the outcome and see no further point in prevaricating, on the other hand.
Maybe but would they give up?
I cant see them helping out Dr Amaral and putting him out of his misery sooner than need be ?
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