CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Resistor wrote:I just had a very quick look as I am heading off to work.  It IS a good find by Skyrocket, but sadly I don't think it's going to help us much.  I tried getting the page from  30/4 and it just redirects now to 27/4.  It looks to be exactly the same Wayback machine, only accessed through a portal registered on an Icelandic domain.  I'll have a good ferret round it later today though.  Just in case, you never know

I also have a screenshot of the McCann.html page just in case. I saw that it is captured from archive.com but maybe there will be something in there that hasn`t been got at. Look forward to your opinion.

Tony's thread is now up to 101 pages, most of it being people screaming "the timestamp's wrong".

I've yet to see anyone explain HOW the timestamp came to be "wrong", though.

And until somebody does, I'm not buying it.

From page 14 to page 53 BB was practically apoplectic in his claims that he thought Ceop had created a file on 30 Apr then suddenly it all changed. He didn't even mention his own credentials for several pages then suddenly he is a java expert. So if he is such an expert, why did he not notice the fundamental difference between ceop main page and the mccann.html one?
He was extremely rude to Nuala and Syn who disagreed with him yet after his epiphany he is now chopping his former allies to pieces.
He behaved the same way over the last photo where I think he claimed to be an expert.
Such behaviour would naturally point to something odd for me.

Struggling here.....

So this BlueBag without a shadow of doubt assumes he is correct and won't hear or entertain any other ideas/theories on this.... He keeps referring to Steve Marsdens facebook as proof....

Now Jill has opened up a new thread on Steve's screenshot facebook thing or whatever it is...

I know I'm a bit slow on all this but I don't get what that is supposed to prove? Oh and where exactly has Steve come out and said it's all a mistake as BB keeps harping on about...    

Someone, anyone spell it out to me.....

Thanks in advance.

I'm struggling too!

BlueBag certainly is a bit pompous.





Re: Claim by 'Stevo' - "CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007"

Post BlueBag Today at 8:16 am

BlueBag wrote:The fact.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=646532175481033&set=p.646532175481033&type=1&theater

WBM is wrong.

For the benefit of those not following the thread properly.

Interestingly I always thought BB was a certain someone else but won't go into that here.

The photo......

Don't get it.

I think I need to sack off work for a while and quickly enroll on a fast track I.T course of some sorts. Or apply from some work experience at the Internet Archive.

Freedom wrote:I'm struggling too!

BlueBag certainly is a bit pompous.





Re: Claim by 'Stevo' - "CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007"

Post  BlueBag Today at 8:16 am

   BlueBag wrote:The fact.

   https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=646532175481033&set=p.646532175481033&type=1&theater

   WBM is wrong.

For the benefit of those not following the thread properly.

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And FWIW Stevo has not said, anywhere, that WBM is (in his opinion) wrong.  All he's done is post a screenshot, which still proves nothing without the source code.

Resistor wrote:

Freedom wrote:I'm struggling too!

BlueBag certainly is a bit pompous.





Re: Claim by 'Stevo' - "CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007"

Post  BlueBag Today at 8:16 am

   BlueBag wrote:The fact.

   https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=646532175481033&set=p.646532175481033&type=1&theater

   WBM is wrong.

For the benefit of those not following the thread properly.

And FWIW Stevo has not said, anywhere, that WBM is (in his opinion) wrong.  All he's done is post a screenshot, which still proves nothing without the source code.

I've seen nothing from Stevo other than him also proclaim Wayback is rock solid. I keep going round in circles with bluebag because all he does is points to the screenshot and shouts error;

Upthread I posted a screenshot from archive.is that was tagged as 30apr which I think shows it as originating that day yet it contains latest news from 18 june.???????? 
Does this show how future stuff can appear on a page with an earlier date just like the Oct stuff we have been discussing or am I off base?

P41, a screenshot of CEOP home page on 30 4 06 using content from May 06. It does happen, due to the way the page is replayed.

Madeleine #McCann Mystery: http://nyenquirer.uk/madeleine-mccann-mystery/ … …

Oh dear - more pomposity (is that a word?) from BlueBag.

Re: A Tale of Two Files by Dr Martin Roberts A CEOP Mystery 25th June 2015

Post BlueBag Today at 12:34 pm

I'm far from qualified to opine over this latest can of worms for reasons simple. One, I have not been following the debate over this issue. Two, internet technology is not my forte. (This is a quote from Dr Roberts).

Should have stopped right there then.


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Poppy wrote:Madeleine #McCann Mystery: http://nyenquirer.uk/madeleine-mccann-mystery/ … …

Not quite sure why the North Yorks Enquirer have picked this up, but good to see an airing outside of forums.

Freedom wrote:Oh dear - more pomposity (is that a word?) from BlueBag.

Re: A Tale of Two Files by Dr Martin Roberts A CEOP Mystery 25th June 2015

Post  BlueBag Today at 12:34 pm

   I'm far from qualified to opine over this latest can of worms for reasons simple. One, I have not been following the debate over this issue. Two, internet technology is not my forte. (This is a quote from Dr Roberts).

Should have stopped right there then.


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Martin Roberts response:

…Oh, and a message for onward transmission to ‘Blue Bag’, who has written elsewhere:

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“Steve said it was "probably a mistake" in about his third post in the Facebook thread.



“And this DOES prove the WBM was in error even though people were insisting WBM couldn't possibly make errors.



“How hard is it for people to admit even that?



“But it's a provable fact not an opinion.”



Just as Carlsberg is “probably the best lager in the world”, a claim hotly disputed by Skol devotees no doubt.



Proof positive? I think not.



Also:



Re: A Tale of Two Files by Dr Martin Roberts A CEOP Mystery 25th June 2015



BlueBag Today at 12:34 pm



I'm far from qualified to opine over this latest can of worms for reasons simple. One, I have not been following the debate over this issue. Two, internet technology is not my forte.



“Should have stopped right there then.”


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Now why don’t you be a good boy Blue Bag and read the piece in its entirety, rather than just the blog host’s introduction?

Even an Ostrich must take its head out of the sand eventually.

Martin R.

Touché.

Poppy wrote:Madeleine #McCann Mystery: http://nyenquirer.uk/madeleine-mccann-mystery/ … …

Well done to them, but unfortunately the comments section is closed.

Mimi wrote:

Poppy wrote:Madeleine #McCann Mystery: http://nyenquirer.uk/madeleine-mccann-mystery/ … …

Well done to them, but unfortunately the comments section is closed.

Hopefully some of the bigger papers might pick this up. And maybe it will force WB to respond.

This 'Bluebag' is certainly on a mission. Reminds me of someone else that uses 'Blue ink' when other particular topics are not allowed to be discussed. Strange one.

Yeah good to see that NY Enquirer pick up on it then. Raising awareness at least. Always a good thing.

Doing a sterling job HKP over there in trying to get some answers. 

Surprised your guest status is still standing in all fairness and you have not been blocked/banned. Again.

Keep up the good work.

Individual guests can't be banned. The facility would have to be withdrawn for all guests to post.

Makes some spelling mistakes does Bluebag. Missing out the odd word. Letters jumbled up. Again reminds me of someone else when replying immediately and under pressure.

(might be corrected now)

Fascinating to watch regardless.

Andrew wrote:Doing a sterling job HKP over there in trying to get some answers. 

Surprised your guest status is still standing in all fairness and you have not been blocked/banned. Again.

Keep up the good work.

You can't ban a 'guest 'Andrew.  If you try to ban the IP then many other posters could be affected, you can only ban an actual members username not a guest.  As far as I know.  You can delete their posts though same as members.

Freedom wrote:Individual guests can't be banned. The facility would have to be withdrawn for all guests to post.

Don't know how it works. I'm sure if I dropped in as a 'guest' I would be most likely. 

Not that I have any inclination to do so at all.

Andrew wrote:Doing a sterling job HKP over there in trying to get some answers. 

Surprised your guest status is still standing in all fairness and you have not been blocked/banned. Again.

Keep up the good work.

She certainly has more patience than me.  I said several dozen pages back that I just wouldn't be responding to anyone who just keeps repeating "glitch" like a demented parrot.  And I haven't changed my opinion.

ETA I see HKP and Blue Bag are still at it. Give it up, HKP! A fool is always right!

candyfloss wrote:

Andrew wrote:Doing a sterling job HKP over there in trying to get some answers. 

Surprised your guest status is still standing in all fairness and you have not been blocked/banned. Again.

Keep up the good work.

You can't ban a 'guest 'Andrew.  If you try to ban the IP then many other posters could be affected, you can only ban an actual members username not a guest.  As far as I know.  You can delete their posts though same as members.

Like I say - have no idea how it works.

That's good then as HKP is safe asking the sort of questions I would if I actually knew what I was on about.