Mark Souster and the complete mystery of the DM's and the now deleted twitter account
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Re: Mark Souster and the complete mystery of the DM's and the now deleted twitter account
well there's no doubt that kennedy is the one who links the two sides of this
Hellsbells- Posts : 310
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I often wonder how the great and the good are going to act when the truth behind Madeleine's disappearance is revealed. People like Lorraine Kelly can, I suppose claim that their natural kindness and innate humanity blinded them to the lies the McCanns were telling them.
However, when you get to people like Brian Kennedy, Clarence Mitchell, the lawyers and all the other professionals who ran to their aid, it becomes more complicated. They were simply too closely involved not to have known. Then of course, you get to the experts, the police chiefs, the psychologists such as Dr. Sharon 'McCanns are 100% innocent' Leal and the criminal profilers who claimed to have investigated the case and found the McCanns and their friends completely innocent. People like Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, Jim Gamble, Mark Williams-Thomas, Donal MacIntyre and the dim witted (or desperate) Summers and Swan. Not forgetting of course, the deceased child abuse expert Ray Wyre.
I haven't even mentioned the politicians. Tony Blair, Gordon Brown who were telephoning the victims personally and offering them the assistance of the British Government and establishment, thus scuppering the official Portuguese investigation. What were the secret services up to? Too shy to tell their bosses, they were being manipulated by crooks?
The millionaire backers like Brian Kennedy, may of course be mad as hell at the McCanns. Not only have they been conned out of money by Kate and Gerry, but they have been made to look very foolish indeed. They can of course opt to continue supporting the scam in an attempt to save face, but they are facing a tsumani of truth that just won't go away.
However, when you get to people like Brian Kennedy, Clarence Mitchell, the lawyers and all the other professionals who ran to their aid, it becomes more complicated. They were simply too closely involved not to have known. Then of course, you get to the experts, the police chiefs, the psychologists such as Dr. Sharon 'McCanns are 100% innocent' Leal and the criminal profilers who claimed to have investigated the case and found the McCanns and their friends completely innocent. People like Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, Jim Gamble, Mark Williams-Thomas, Donal MacIntyre and the dim witted (or desperate) Summers and Swan. Not forgetting of course, the deceased child abuse expert Ray Wyre.
I haven't even mentioned the politicians. Tony Blair, Gordon Brown who were telephoning the victims personally and offering them the assistance of the British Government and establishment, thus scuppering the official Portuguese investigation. What were the secret services up to? Too shy to tell their bosses, they were being manipulated by crooks?
The millionaire backers like Brian Kennedy, may of course be mad as hell at the McCanns. Not only have they been conned out of money by Kate and Gerry, but they have been made to look very foolish indeed. They can of course opt to continue supporting the scam in an attempt to save face, but they are facing a tsumani of truth that just won't go away.
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I think that even with the sofa celebs, the level of naivety to be so utterly on the wrong side of the truth would strain credibility.
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Andrew wrote:Nicked from Twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/real_zm_/status/652546712754606080/photos
Oops!
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Andrew wrote:Nicked from Twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/real_zm_/status/652546712754606080/photos
Zora @real_zm_ · 23m23 minutes ago
Statement from Mark Souster. Shared with permission #mccann
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Re: Mark Souster and the complete mystery of the DM's and the now deleted twitter account
and who exactly is Zora McCartney?
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Can someone explain what this is all about with Mark Souster?
Is it legit or fake? In the Zora Tweet he denies messaging Jill/Tony but does confirm he supports GA.
A bit confused here. I would think if Jill does have this 'DM' she'll be able to reproduce as proof?
Amazing how the games start being played around the time GA's court case is/could be in session...
Edit: Jill has posted Tweet but didn't and hasn't commented yet!?
Is it legit or fake? In the Zora Tweet he denies messaging Jill/Tony but does confirm he supports GA.
A bit confused here. I would think if Jill does have this 'DM' she'll be able to reproduce as proof?
Amazing how the games start being played around the time GA's court case is/could be in session...
Edit: Jill has posted Tweet but didn't and hasn't commented yet!?
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I wonder where this alleged statement is supposed to have been released? Facebook perhaps?
this whole episode seems a bit crazy to me
this whole episode seems a bit crazy to me
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NO crazier than other games! You really would think that everyone would be taking on board the lesson by now. Petermac summed it up for me,if you want information it's out there go read it for yourself (words to that effect).
Few are on "our"side and many out to trip us up. Keep your own counsel and watch out for your ego....lots of people are only to happy to massage it for you!
Few are on "our"side and many out to trip us up. Keep your own counsel and watch out for your ego....lots of people are only to happy to massage it for you!
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Re: Mark Souster and the complete mystery of the DM's and the now deleted twitter account
Hellsbells wrote:I wonder where this alleged statement is supposed to have been released? Facebook perhaps?
this whole episode seems a bit crazy to me
Jill posted that she received it on the CMoMM Facebook page 13 hrs ago. She said then it wasn`t a fake. Isabelle McFadden offered to compare it ( presumably to one she received)
Games being played and red faces all round.
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it looked fishy from the start, do we now think the original message and the clarification are fake?
Hellsbells- Posts : 310
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In Jill's original post she said it was a direct Tweet message i.e. a PM on Twitter. I assume these DM Tweets can be routed/automatically sent to other SM accounts like Facebook?
If it was a DM Tweet then I doubt he was hacked because he is Tweeting right now.
If it was a DM Tweet then I doubt he was hacked because he is Tweeting right now.
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apologies for not knowing this, but I assume these messages are private rather than public?
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Hellsbells wrote:apologies for not knowing this, but are these messages private rather than public?
Yes. A DM or direct message on Twitter is private: https://support.twitter.com/articles/14606
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Re: Mark Souster and the complete mystery of the DM's and the now deleted twitter account
interesting, because if the original message was genuine he probably wouldn't have expected it to be made public on CMoMM. So the clarification might have been to get him off the hook with persons unknown. Or the whole thing could be fake.
The fact is, though, that he does appear to have retweeted this 3 days ago
PurpleE @PurpleE12 Oct 6
Forca Goncalo! Wishing you the best start tomorrow for your Appeal. May JUSTICE win at last!
assuming that is genuine, it does suggest he has an interest in the case. I wonder where Kennedy and his professional relationship with MS fits into this?
The fact is, though, that he does appear to have retweeted this 3 days ago
PurpleE @PurpleE12 Oct 6
Forca Goncalo! Wishing you the best start tomorrow for your Appeal. May JUSTICE win at last!
assuming that is genuine, it does suggest he has an interest in the case. I wonder where Kennedy and his professional relationship with MS fits into this?
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candyfloss wrote:Andrew wrote:Nicked from Twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/real_zm_/status/652546712754606080/photos
Zora @real_zm_ · 23m23 minutes ago
Statement from Mark Souster. Shared with permission #mccann
Hmm. Mark Souster is being a bit tongue-in-cheek here, I think.
He refers to Jill as "a Jill Havern" as if he's never heard of her before. However, a quick look at his Twitter timeline shows him retweeting a tweet from sharonl and linking to CMoMM on August 26th. So he's not completely ignorant of her forum.
I think he's backtracking.
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Yesterday, TB put this on Twitter
Anthony Bennett @zampos 13h13 hours ago
Truth about Maddie #McCann will 'emerge soon' promises @SousterRugby of #SundayTimes to #CMOMM forum-owner in a tweet
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Zora replied with
Zora @real_zm_ 10h10 hours ago
@zampos @StellabyLight @SousterRugby pretty sure you'll have lost his confidence now. Duh!! FFS! #mccann
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And today Zora received this with permission to share
FWIW I think he's been scared off & didn't expect Jill to post it on her site.
He follows a few 'antis' on Tweeter & this is one of his Tweets from the 6th
Mark Souster @SousterRugby Oct 6
@Abductionorscam @McCannCaseTweet Go Amaral
Anthony Bennett @zampos 13h13 hours ago
Truth about Maddie #McCann will 'emerge soon' promises @SousterRugby of #SundayTimes to #CMOMM forum-owner in a tweet
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Zora replied with
Zora @real_zm_ 10h10 hours ago
@zampos @StellabyLight @SousterRugby pretty sure you'll have lost his confidence now. Duh!! FFS! #mccann
RETWEET
1
FAVORITES
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And today Zora received this with permission to share
FWIW I think he's been scared off & didn't expect Jill to post it on her site.
He follows a few 'antis' on Tweeter & this is one of his Tweets from the 6th
Mark Souster @SousterRugby Oct 6
@Abductionorscam @McCannCaseTweet Go Amaral
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I agree. Tweeting JillyCL as far back as December. Tentatively getting on board but scared off now. Grr.
Reminds me of HiDeHo plonking her size 10s into the Wayback machine's inbox without considering the consequences.
Reminds me of HiDeHo plonking her size 10s into the Wayback machine's inbox without considering the consequences.
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Dee Coy- Posts : 2317
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even so, given his regular contact with BK and what appears to be a good working relationship with him, the fact that MS has shown an interest is significant surely?
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I'm surprised at how little discussion this has generated over there and here.
If it was fake/a set up where is the outrage?
If it was a genuine DM from a legit journo to try and get the real truth out there then Jill posting it on a public forum before checking it out is a bit out of order and could potentially cause him problems.
I'm glad I don't do Social Media though. Given how paranoid some that have followed this case from the beginning now are, being on Twitter and Facebook is probably the worst place to be.
If it was fake/a set up where is the outrage?
If it was a genuine DM from a legit journo to try and get the real truth out there then Jill posting it on a public forum before checking it out is a bit out of order and could potentially cause him problems.
I'm glad I don't do Social Media though. Given how paranoid some that have followed this case from the beginning now are, being on Twitter and Facebook is probably the worst place to be.
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He looks fairly genuine to me. A journalist who appears to have a keen interest in the whole McCann farce.
Probably wanted to gather some info privately and discreetly but then Jill and Tony plaster it everywhere.
Tony harassing him on twitter to probably scare him off.
Job completed by the looks of it.
Probably wanted to gather some info privately and discreetly but then Jill and Tony plaster it everywhere.
Tony harassing him on twitter to probably scare him off.
Job completed by the looks of it.
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Could it therefore be BK behind this ?
MS started tweeting about MBM in July as if he was on the side of the sceptics and more recently has led people to believe he is on the side of GA.
What had happened before July ? When did GA say he was going to appeal and Leanne Baulch start the GoFundMe page?
MS started tweeting about MBM in July as if he was on the side of the sceptics and more recently has led people to believe he is on the side of GA.
What had happened before July ? When did GA say he was going to appeal and Leanne Baulch start the GoFundMe page?
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Remember that donation to Mr Amaral from? journalists? was it?
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