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7 kids were left in McCann flat
Seen this on onlyinamerica so followed link and thought I would post it here....
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/322443/Maddie-McCann-7-kids-left-in-McCann-flat-bizarre-new-claim.html#ixzz1PMQlPuic
POLICE in Portugal piled fresh torment on Madeleine McCann’s parents yesterday by claiming SIX other kids were with her the night she disappeared.
The bizarre theory – that the couple’s friends left their own children in the fateful holiday apartment to go out – emerged as the country’s No2 cop took over the case of the missing four-year-old.
Grim ... Gerry yesterday
Grim ... Gerry yesterday
Last night Maddie’s gaunt-looking mum Kate and husband Gerry slammed the latest slur on their version of events as “utter rubbish”.
The two doctors, both 39, insist their two-year-old twins Amelie and Sean were the only other children sleeping in the rented flat when Maddie vanished.
The news comes as friends of Kate have argued today that the fact she refused to leave Portugal, despite pleas from husband Gerry and friends, is further proof she is telling the truth.
Even though she knew public opinion in Portugal was turning against them, Kate felt emotionally attached to the area and wanted to stay.
Friends argue that someone with something to hide would not have behaved in the same way.
But police sources reportedly told Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas they had "significant evidence" that seven of the eight children in the group had been in the McCanns' apartment.
Reports suggest they did not give an explanation as to where the eighth child was.
And the newspaper also claims that Maddie and twins Sean and Amelie were sedated.
This belief is apparently based on the first preliminary results of the tests carried out at a lab in Birmingham.
These results are said to tie in with forensic analysis previously carried out at the National Institute of Legal Medicine in Portugal.
According to a reported police source, there is no proof that the other children claimed to be in the apartment were also sedated.
Yesterday three detectives visited the apartment where Madeleine disappeared to reconstruct what happened.
They were there for five hours. Their new boss Paulo Rebelo, 45, is understood to favour a “rethink” of every aspect of the investigation.
The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell scoffed at the cops’ new allegations, saying: “If you put seven children together you are going to have a far harder time getting them to sleep than three.” The latest theory casts doubt not only on what Kate and Gerry have always said but knocks statements by the three couples they holidayed with.
Rebelo ... now heads the case
Rebelo ... now heads the case
Pals Jane Tanner, 36, and her partner Dr Russell O’Brien, 36, have two young daughters. Dr Matthew Oldfield, 37, and wife Rachael, 36, also have two children.
Also in the Algarve with the McCanns were David Payne, 41, and his wife Dr Fiona Payne, 34 – who have one child – and Fiona’s mother Diane. Maddie vanished five months ago in the resort of Praia da Luz as her parents and friends dined in a nearby tapas bar. The police theory about other kids being in the flat was leaked by a detective to a Portuguese newspaper.
It emerged as highly respected senior officer Rebelo – second in command at the Policia Judiciaria – took over the inquiry. He replaced disgraced Goncalo Amaral – axed last week for blasting the McCanns and UK detectives. Rebelo, 45, has worked on some of Portugal’s most high profile crimes – although he has no experience of investigating missing children.
Missing ... Maddie
Missing ... Maddie
His appointment was announced as it was revealed the McCanns have hired their own forensic team. The move follows reports that new DNA evidence links them to their daughter’s disappearance.
Spokesman Mr Mitchell said: “Kate and Gerry hope Mr Rebelo will now work to eliminate them from the inquiry as suspects and will then be in a position to refocus his team into the search for Madeleine.”
But news emerged today that a team of six Portuguese detectives is reportedly investigating the disappearance of Madeleine - down from about 100 inspectors put on the case when she first went missing
Carlos Anjos, president of the Association of Criminal Investigation Staff, told Portugal’s national news agency Lusa that five detectives and a chief inspector made up the team.
He said the drawdown was “normal" in investigations where the missing person was not found in the immediate period after disappearing, Lusa reported.
Yesterday Kate looked pale and thin as she attended a Catholic service for Madeleine near the family’s home in Rothley, Leics.
Mr Mitchell insisted: “Kate may appear frail but inside she is stronger than ever.”
Gerry and Kate McCann have praised Hollywood star Ben Affleck for his "sensitivity" after he halted the UK screening of his latest film over its similarities to the missing Madeleine case.
Gone Baby Gone - directed by the actor and starring his brother Casey - features a private detective trying to find a missing four-year-old girl.
The thriller has now had its UK premiere postponed.
At the Los Angeles premiere, Affleck said: "It just came down to the fact that there is a family there, and there is a country that has been exposed to the story and seems to have become to a certain degree emotionally sensitive to it."
The McCanns' family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "We thank him for being thoughtful enough and sensitive enough to Gerry and Kate's position to make such a commercial decision."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/322443/Maddie-McCann-7-kids-left-in-McCann-flat-bizarre-new-claim.html#ixzz1PMQlPuic
POLICE in Portugal piled fresh torment on Madeleine McCann’s parents yesterday by claiming SIX other kids were with her the night she disappeared.
The bizarre theory – that the couple’s friends left their own children in the fateful holiday apartment to go out – emerged as the country’s No2 cop took over the case of the missing four-year-old.
Grim ... Gerry yesterday
Grim ... Gerry yesterday
Last night Maddie’s gaunt-looking mum Kate and husband Gerry slammed the latest slur on their version of events as “utter rubbish”.
The two doctors, both 39, insist their two-year-old twins Amelie and Sean were the only other children sleeping in the rented flat when Maddie vanished.
The news comes as friends of Kate have argued today that the fact she refused to leave Portugal, despite pleas from husband Gerry and friends, is further proof she is telling the truth.
Even though she knew public opinion in Portugal was turning against them, Kate felt emotionally attached to the area and wanted to stay.
Friends argue that someone with something to hide would not have behaved in the same way.
But police sources reportedly told Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas they had "significant evidence" that seven of the eight children in the group had been in the McCanns' apartment.
Reports suggest they did not give an explanation as to where the eighth child was.
And the newspaper also claims that Maddie and twins Sean and Amelie were sedated.
This belief is apparently based on the first preliminary results of the tests carried out at a lab in Birmingham.
These results are said to tie in with forensic analysis previously carried out at the National Institute of Legal Medicine in Portugal.
According to a reported police source, there is no proof that the other children claimed to be in the apartment were also sedated.
Yesterday three detectives visited the apartment where Madeleine disappeared to reconstruct what happened.
They were there for five hours. Their new boss Paulo Rebelo, 45, is understood to favour a “rethink” of every aspect of the investigation.
The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell scoffed at the cops’ new allegations, saying: “If you put seven children together you are going to have a far harder time getting them to sleep than three.” The latest theory casts doubt not only on what Kate and Gerry have always said but knocks statements by the three couples they holidayed with.
Rebelo ... now heads the case
Rebelo ... now heads the case
Pals Jane Tanner, 36, and her partner Dr Russell O’Brien, 36, have two young daughters. Dr Matthew Oldfield, 37, and wife Rachael, 36, also have two children.
Also in the Algarve with the McCanns were David Payne, 41, and his wife Dr Fiona Payne, 34 – who have one child – and Fiona’s mother Diane. Maddie vanished five months ago in the resort of Praia da Luz as her parents and friends dined in a nearby tapas bar. The police theory about other kids being in the flat was leaked by a detective to a Portuguese newspaper.
It emerged as highly respected senior officer Rebelo – second in command at the Policia Judiciaria – took over the inquiry. He replaced disgraced Goncalo Amaral – axed last week for blasting the McCanns and UK detectives. Rebelo, 45, has worked on some of Portugal’s most high profile crimes – although he has no experience of investigating missing children.
Missing ... Maddie
Missing ... Maddie
His appointment was announced as it was revealed the McCanns have hired their own forensic team. The move follows reports that new DNA evidence links them to their daughter’s disappearance.
Spokesman Mr Mitchell said: “Kate and Gerry hope Mr Rebelo will now work to eliminate them from the inquiry as suspects and will then be in a position to refocus his team into the search for Madeleine.”
But news emerged today that a team of six Portuguese detectives is reportedly investigating the disappearance of Madeleine - down from about 100 inspectors put on the case when she first went missing
Carlos Anjos, president of the Association of Criminal Investigation Staff, told Portugal’s national news agency Lusa that five detectives and a chief inspector made up the team.
He said the drawdown was “normal" in investigations where the missing person was not found in the immediate period after disappearing, Lusa reported.
Yesterday Kate looked pale and thin as she attended a Catholic service for Madeleine near the family’s home in Rothley, Leics.
Mr Mitchell insisted: “Kate may appear frail but inside she is stronger than ever.”
Gerry and Kate McCann have praised Hollywood star Ben Affleck for his "sensitivity" after he halted the UK screening of his latest film over its similarities to the missing Madeleine case.
Gone Baby Gone - directed by the actor and starring his brother Casey - features a private detective trying to find a missing four-year-old girl.
The thriller has now had its UK premiere postponed.
At the Los Angeles premiere, Affleck said: "It just came down to the fact that there is a family there, and there is a country that has been exposed to the story and seems to have become to a certain degree emotionally sensitive to it."
The McCanns' family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "We thank him for being thoughtful enough and sensitive enough to Gerry and Kate's position to make such a commercial decision."
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Bampots- Posts : 2320
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Re: 7 kids were left in McCann flat
I suppose if they were all in the same apt (assuming 5A, from reading that), then that gives extra weight to the 'pact'.
Plus all hands on deck for a 'clean up' and last min timelines and the like. Get stories worked out etc.
A thought..
Plus all hands on deck for a 'clean up' and last min timelines and the like. Get stories worked out etc.
A thought..
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Why can they not even get basic facts right?
Pals Jane Tanner, 36, and her partner Dr Russell O’Brien, 36, have two young daughters. Dr Matthew Oldfield, 37, and wife Rachael, 36, also have two children.
Also in the Algarve with the McCanns were David Payne, 41, and his wife Dr Fiona Payne, 34 – who have one child – and Fiona’s mother Diane. Maddie vanished five months ago in the resort of Praia da Luz as her parents and friends dined in a nearby tapas bar. The police theory about other kids being in the flat was leaked by a detective to a Portuguese newspaper
Pals Jane Tanner, 36, and her partner Dr Russell O’Brien, 36, have two young daughters. Dr Matthew Oldfield, 37, and wife Rachael, 36, also have two children.
Also in the Algarve with the McCanns were David Payne, 41, and his wife Dr Fiona Payne, 34 – who have one child – and Fiona’s mother Diane. Maddie vanished five months ago in the resort of Praia da Luz as her parents and friends dined in a nearby tapas bar. The police theory about other kids being in the flat was leaked by a detective to a Portuguese newspaper
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I really cant see that all kids were in flat together for the evening alone. One could so easily wake the rest up ,cant see all would be fast asleep ,unless as some feel they had been sedated,how stupid is that ? Just too many kids to be tested fter that event .joyce1938
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Speaking of Paulo Rebelo, I didn't realise (or just forgot) that Kate wrote him a letter back in 2007.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LETTER_KATE_MCCANN.htm
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LETTER_KATE_MCCANN.htm
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Andrew wrote:Speaking of Paulo Rebelo, I didn't realise (or just forgot) that Kate wrote him a letter back in 2007.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LETTER_KATE_MCCANN.htm
What a ridiculous letter. She knows perfectly well that her daughter can't be found. Her dishonesty is breathtaking...
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Andrew wrote:I suppose if they were all in the same apt (assuming 5A, from reading that), then that gives extra weight to the 'pact'.
Plus all hands on deck for a 'clean up' and last min timelines and the like. Get stories worked out etc.
A thought..
But why? Why would they put all the children in the same apartment? It would be so difficult to get them all to off to sleep apart from anything. I suppose you could argue they did this and then used David Payne's baby monitor to monitor all the children.
I think they probably did something like rope one of the nannies into doing an informal 'baby-listening' so that when 'the abduction' happened they would be able to implicate Mark Warner.
TM like pinning the blame on other people and the nannies would be the weak link. Plus MW at the time would have been highly sensitive to criticism of their child-care arrangements.
Still, it is odd that Bell Pottinger (I think?) were there the previous week....what was that all about?
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Yeah - ridiculous indeed.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RE_ENACTMENT.htm
Worth a proper read as well about the reconstruction stuff.
How 'scared' the tapas bunch are.
Volumes/Speaks.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RE_ENACTMENT.htm
Worth a proper read as well about the reconstruction stuff.
How 'scared' the tapas bunch are.
Volumes/Speaks.
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Andrew wrote:Speaking of Paulo Rebelo, I didn't realise (or just forgot) that Kate wrote him a letter back in 2007.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LETTER_KATE_MCCANN.htm
This bit is full of ####...
We will continue to work with the PJ (and we are keen to do so as soon as possible!) as we have done since that moment when I discovered that Madeleine had been taken.
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All bullpoo, ddl.
They were all so scared to go back because everyone would see through the crock they said.
Red flag or what.
Eta - on about the re-con stuff.
They were all so scared to go back because everyone would see through the crock they said.
Red flag or what.
Eta - on about the re-con stuff.
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Andrew wrote:All bullpoo, ddl.
They were all so scared to go back because everyone would see through the crock they said.
Red flag or what.
Eta - on about the re-con stuff.
Exactly, and doing her best to know what was going on, must have had them panicking at that time.
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When you read all that, then it does (to me) show you how complicit and frightened, the tapas lot actually were.
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This tweet from TB on twitter
Anthony Bennett @zampos · 3m3 minutes ago
Amidst all the emphasis on the children being left alone each night ('neglect'), thank you for bringing back into focus the #PJ's view that during that week there was evidence they were NOT, but rather that one of the T9 went 'off sick' each night to care for the children #McCann
Now as far as I am aware there is nothing in the files of interim or final report of the PJ to suggest this at all. It was looked into by P. Rebelo, and he went to 5a to do some sort of reconstruction, and naturally the papers/media got their snippets. But we donot know how much is total embellishment in that article above or fact. It was looked at yes, but as to the comment of TB that it was the PJ's 'view' - well that is not fact as far as I know, if someone can point me to the files where it says this? I must have forgotten or missed it.
Anthony Bennett @zampos · 3m3 minutes ago
Amidst all the emphasis on the children being left alone each night ('neglect'), thank you for bringing back into focus the #PJ's view that during that week there was evidence they were NOT, but rather that one of the T9 went 'off sick' each night to care for the children #McCann
Now as far as I am aware there is nothing in the files of interim or final report of the PJ to suggest this at all. It was looked into by P. Rebelo, and he went to 5a to do some sort of reconstruction, and naturally the papers/media got their snippets. But we donot know how much is total embellishment in that article above or fact. It was looked at yes, but as to the comment of TB that it was the PJ's 'view' - well that is not fact as far as I know, if someone can point me to the files where it says this? I must have forgotten or missed it.
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