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That's a strange one Freedom
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Just for interest, here's Natasha's LinkedIn profile. The pantomime dame type photo shows she has a sense of humour which is good!
https://pt.linkedin.com/in/natasha-donn-bb866a55
https://pt.linkedin.com/in/natasha-donn-bb866a55
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Freedom wrote:http://portugalresident.com/clock-ticks-on-maddie-funding-as-vitriol-now-runs-riot-over-mainstream-media
I'd love to know what is Natasha Donn's connection with CMoMM.
"A former police superintendent involved in the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann website - which has been campaigning for a much wider brief for Grange’s search to take in other hypotheses beyond abduction - told us: “We cannot work out what the Sun is up to.
“It knows full well that every article it puts up will attract negative comments, but it isn’t moderating them.
“It is allowing explicit allegations of specific and very serious crimes to be made against the McCanns, beyond anything that the Portuguese PJ police, Gonçalo Amaral or indeed the British police ever suggested, and so extreme that most of the commentary blog sites would not allow them to appear.
“CMoMM (the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann) for example takes down any such posts, with an explanation of why this has been done - yet the Sun allows truly foul language, and then it leaves it online for everyone else to see, for weeks, months and sometimes for all time.
“Today’s article itself contains absolutely nothing. So why write it? And more to the point, why then allow comments?”
I presume for monitoring public opinion. The McCanns now have few public supporters. A few friends and shills but that is about it. The comments speak for themselves. TM can no longer play the victim card and the 'anybody who disagrees with us is a horrid person' card. The true victim in all this has always been Madeleine. There is no evidence that Madeleine was abducted by persons unknown and many indicators that the McCanns and their friends know she was not abducted by the big bad bogey-man.
The cadaver dogs support Dr Amaral's hypothesis that Madeleine died, her body was in apartment 5A and was later transported in the Renault Scenic they hired weeks after the alleged abduction. One might surmise - if one follows Dr Amaral's hypothesis - that the delay in removal of the body from where-ever it was stored was an attempt to put a considerable time distance between the alleged abduction and removal of the body.
This suggests to me that Dr Amaral was right and Madeleine died that week and TM were keen to make sure that there was no suspicion of a body being removed shortly after the alleged abduction, especially when the immediate area was swarming with police. After a few weeks, the sightings in different countries were coming along nicely and once the public were looking in far-flung places, it was safer to return to closer to home and conceal any evidence.
All IMO only and a theory.
ETA: We know that members of TM were in the beach area of Luz in the early hours of Friday morning. I do think this suggests that there might have been a hiding place down there. I wonder if shortly after this a boat became important to the narrative? It might be easier to conceal a body and remove it from the area in a boat rather than by car. This would also have the advantage of avoiding detection by sniffer dogs once the boat was far out at sea.
I wonder if a body was then returned to land possibly weeks later, when the coast might be thought to be clear? And was transported in the hired Renault Scenic towards a final resting place perhaps?
Again, purely hypothetical.
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2) Meanwhile, a friend of Kate McCann's aunt and uncle has a friend that claims to have had a strong vision that Madeleine was on a boat with a man in the marina in Lagos...
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id399.htm
A lot of the below sounds like gobbledegook especially the Victoria Beckham lookalike but I do think that a boat/yacht might be important.
Snipped from link below: I spoke to Kate McCann on Tuesday 8th May 2007.
“She told me that a friend of her aunt and uncle had a friend that had a strong vision that Madeleine was on a boat with a man in the marina in Lagos.”
It reveals that the “person” arrived in Portugal and spoke to Kate, adding: “They have visited the marina and identified the boat.”
The officer spoke to a colleague who made some enquiries about the cruiser, which was registered to a Canadian national. Enquiries were also made on the police national computer.
The note goes on: “I spoke with Kate today and she has given me photographs of the boat.
“She has also given me photograph of a man who had been on the boat.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/119393/Maddy-s-mother-photographed-boat-she-believes-snatched-girl
ETA: Maybe the wrong thread for this?
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id399.htm
A lot of the below sounds like gobbledegook especially the Victoria Beckham lookalike but I do think that a boat/yacht might be important.
Snipped from link below: I spoke to Kate McCann on Tuesday 8th May 2007.
“She told me that a friend of her aunt and uncle had a friend that had a strong vision that Madeleine was on a boat with a man in the marina in Lagos.”
It reveals that the “person” arrived in Portugal and spoke to Kate, adding: “They have visited the marina and identified the boat.”
The officer spoke to a colleague who made some enquiries about the cruiser, which was registered to a Canadian national. Enquiries were also made on the police national computer.
The note goes on: “I spoke with Kate today and she has given me photographs of the boat.
“She has also given me photograph of a man who had been on the boat.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/119393/Maddy-s-mother-photographed-boat-she-believes-snatched-girl
ETA: Maybe the wrong thread for this?
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http://portugalresident.com/justice-for-madeleine-and-mary
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Demand for the truth about what happened to Madeleine McCann is likely to continue even if London’s Metropolitan Police Service has to give up its Operation Grange investigation when the funds run out.
A remarkable example of public determination and fortitude in a missing child case took place in Ireland last Saturday.
A silent vigil was held outside the Donegal County Coroner’s offices to demand justice for Mary Boyle, who disappeared without trace at the age of six while visiting her grandparents’ farm near Ballyshannon 41 years ago.
Family and friends have called for an inquest to establish exactly what happened to Mary on March 18, 1977.
They believe she was killed by a known suspect and then became the subject of a police cover-up instigated by a politician.
Those taking part in the demonstration on Saturday included Mary’s twin sister, Ann Doherty. The protest group, wearing purple ribbons and holding purple balloons, handed in a petition containing more than 10,000 names.
Joe Craig, Mary’s cousin and spokesperson for the Justice for Mary Boyle Campaign, said: “Time is running out and we simply cannot allow this to be dragged on any longer.”
Mr Craig added: “All we are asking for is to allow the events of that day to be pieced together at an inquest so we can move on. Is that too much to ask?”
Madeleine’s parents have always claimed their daughter was abducted and believe she may still be alive.
The Met has so far spent more than £11 million of taxpayers’ money on Operation Grange but has apparently not managed to find a shred of solid evidence to solve the mystery.
A response is still awaited from the British Home Office to last month’s request for more funding, which came at a time when the Met, along with police forces throughout the UK, are under severe budget pressure and laying off thousands of officers.
Aside from such pressure, many analysts have described the Operation Grange investigation as a “sham”.
Colin Sutton, a highly respected senior Met detective now in retirement, has been more concise in his criticism.
Last May, around the 10th anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance, he said the investigation had been so “restricted” from the start that it was destined to fail.
After being tipped to lead Operation Grange, Colin Sutton was advised against it in a phone conversation with another senior Met officer. He was told that operation Grange would be restricted to the abduction theory.
Colin Sutton has not elaborated since last May, but nor has he backtracked on his comments.
He said recently: “I have no reason to change my view that Grange was never a comprehensive reinvestigation of all possible theories and that unless and until it changes that focus it will be doomed to fail.”
As in the Mary Boyle case, a great many people would like clarification about the way the Madeleine case has been conducted.
By Len Port
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Len Port is a journalist and author based in the Algarve. Follow Len’s reflections on current affairs in Portugal on his blog: algarvenewswatch.blogspot.pt
Photo: Madeleine, missing since May 3, 2007 / Mary, missing since March 18, 1977
COMMENT
Demand for the truth about what happened to Madeleine McCann is likely to continue even if London’s Metropolitan Police Service has to give up its Operation Grange investigation when the funds run out.
A remarkable example of public determination and fortitude in a missing child case took place in Ireland last Saturday.
A silent vigil was held outside the Donegal County Coroner’s offices to demand justice for Mary Boyle, who disappeared without trace at the age of six while visiting her grandparents’ farm near Ballyshannon 41 years ago.
Family and friends have called for an inquest to establish exactly what happened to Mary on March 18, 1977.
They believe she was killed by a known suspect and then became the subject of a police cover-up instigated by a politician.
Those taking part in the demonstration on Saturday included Mary’s twin sister, Ann Doherty. The protest group, wearing purple ribbons and holding purple balloons, handed in a petition containing more than 10,000 names.
Joe Craig, Mary’s cousin and spokesperson for the Justice for Mary Boyle Campaign, said: “Time is running out and we simply cannot allow this to be dragged on any longer.”
Mr Craig added: “All we are asking for is to allow the events of that day to be pieced together at an inquest so we can move on. Is that too much to ask?”
Madeleine’s parents have always claimed their daughter was abducted and believe she may still be alive.
The Met has so far spent more than £11 million of taxpayers’ money on Operation Grange but has apparently not managed to find a shred of solid evidence to solve the mystery.
A response is still awaited from the British Home Office to last month’s request for more funding, which came at a time when the Met, along with police forces throughout the UK, are under severe budget pressure and laying off thousands of officers.
Aside from such pressure, many analysts have described the Operation Grange investigation as a “sham”.
Colin Sutton, a highly respected senior Met detective now in retirement, has been more concise in his criticism.
Last May, around the 10th anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance, he said the investigation had been so “restricted” from the start that it was destined to fail.
After being tipped to lead Operation Grange, Colin Sutton was advised against it in a phone conversation with another senior Met officer. He was told that operation Grange would be restricted to the abduction theory.
Colin Sutton has not elaborated since last May, but nor has he backtracked on his comments.
He said recently: “I have no reason to change my view that Grange was never a comprehensive reinvestigation of all possible theories and that unless and until it changes that focus it will be doomed to fail.”
As in the Mary Boyle case, a great many people would like clarification about the way the Madeleine case has been conducted.
By Len Port
|| features@algarveresident.com
Len Port is a journalist and author based in the Algarve. Follow Len’s reflections on current affairs in Portugal on his blog: algarvenewswatch.blogspot.pt
Photo: Madeleine, missing since May 3, 2007 / Mary, missing since March 18, 1977
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With thanks to FB Abduction or Scam.
It seems the article has now been 'whooshed'
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Interesting read, it disappeared from the Algarve Resident web page almost instantly. Thanks to Admin for tracking it down.
Attorney General receives “new theory” in disappearance of Madeleine McCann A team of independent investigators working over the last decade has come up with what it believes happened to Madeleine McCann. Just as the British Home Office is reported to be considering a new request by Metropolitan Police for the funding of its long-running Operation Grange investigation, the theory has landed on the desk of Portugal’s Attorney General. It is explosive, it does not work to the accepted timeline, and it does not involve Portuguese gypsies or Eastern European child smugglers. The objective of the 20-page letter, translated into Portuguese, is to prompt judicial authorities towards a reinvestigation. Explains one the group’s principal spokespeople - a retired Nottinghamshire police superintendent - “it is important that people follow this logically, and without preconceptions, however shocking the conclusion may seem”.
“There is strong evidence, for example, that the famous Pool Photo was not taken on Thursday 3rd as was claimed. “Weather reports, personal diaries, and many hundreds of photos on sites such as Flickr show that Thursday lunchtime was overcast and there was a cold Force 4 wind”. The retired police officer is convinced that the mystery is “a very simple sad story” that for reasons unclear has been hopelessly muddled up. As to why this may be the case, his response was a prememptory: “No Comment”.
“Any answers I give at this point would be personal opinions not based on facts or knowledge and therefore best avoided”, he said. “It might be, after all, that the findings have "got through" and that a final answer is just around the corner. “The last FOI (Freedom of Information) report from Grange stated there had been flights to Portugal in 2017:
“To date there have been 2 return flights to Portugal this year. “In March three officers flew to Portugal at a total cost of £750 - whilst in May 2 officers flew to Portugal, costs being £500. “To do WHAT ? “How many of these had we heard about ? “And don't forget that the CPS lawyers visited Portugal to speak to counterparts a couple of years ago . . .”
Thus for now, the team that calls itself the Madeleine McCann Research group waits. The letter was sent on March 6 and has been tracked as having reached its destination. Said one of the group’s members: “We can only hope the authorities take notice. If our findings get published in the Portuguese media, the authorities might be obliged to make an official statement and it might get reported in the UK. “And then things finally might be able to move forwards…” natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
It seems the article has now been 'whooshed'
Nikky West
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Interesting read, it disappeared from the Algarve Resident web page almost instantly. Thanks to Admin for tracking it down.
Attorney General receives “new theory” in disappearance of Madeleine McCann A team of independent investigators working over the last decade has come up with what it believes happened to Madeleine McCann. Just as the British Home Office is reported to be considering a new request by Metropolitan Police for the funding of its long-running Operation Grange investigation, the theory has landed on the desk of Portugal’s Attorney General. It is explosive, it does not work to the accepted timeline, and it does not involve Portuguese gypsies or Eastern European child smugglers. The objective of the 20-page letter, translated into Portuguese, is to prompt judicial authorities towards a reinvestigation. Explains one the group’s principal spokespeople - a retired Nottinghamshire police superintendent - “it is important that people follow this logically, and without preconceptions, however shocking the conclusion may seem”.
“There is strong evidence, for example, that the famous Pool Photo was not taken on Thursday 3rd as was claimed. “Weather reports, personal diaries, and many hundreds of photos on sites such as Flickr show that Thursday lunchtime was overcast and there was a cold Force 4 wind”. The retired police officer is convinced that the mystery is “a very simple sad story” that for reasons unclear has been hopelessly muddled up. As to why this may be the case, his response was a prememptory: “No Comment”.
“Any answers I give at this point would be personal opinions not based on facts or knowledge and therefore best avoided”, he said. “It might be, after all, that the findings have "got through" and that a final answer is just around the corner. “The last FOI (Freedom of Information) report from Grange stated there had been flights to Portugal in 2017:
“To date there have been 2 return flights to Portugal this year. “In March three officers flew to Portugal at a total cost of £750 - whilst in May 2 officers flew to Portugal, costs being £500. “To do WHAT ? “How many of these had we heard about ? “And don't forget that the CPS lawyers visited Portugal to speak to counterparts a couple of years ago . . .”
Thus for now, the team that calls itself the Madeleine McCann Research group waits. The letter was sent on March 6 and has been tracked as having reached its destination. Said one of the group’s members: “We can only hope the authorities take notice. If our findings get published in the Portuguese media, the authorities might be obliged to make an official statement and it might get reported in the UK. “And then things finally might be able to move forwards…” natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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So the Madeleine Mccann research group saves the day under the auspices of retired Nottinghamshire cop. By e-mail i presume.....wonder if he told TB this little gem ...
it is important that people follow this logically, and without preconceptions....
Apparentley she pulled the article in anticipation that a larger Portugese paper takes up the mantle and forces the authorities to make a statement.....
it is important that people follow this logically, and without preconceptions....
Apparentley she pulled the article in anticipation that a larger Portugese paper takes up the mantle and forces the authorities to make a statement.....
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http://portugalresident.com/maddie-cops-get-yet-more-cash-to-continue-investigate-“final-line-of-enquiry”
“Operation Grange detectives have refused to say what the "final line of enquiry" is”, affirm reports, but it continues to be used as justification for yet more British Home Office funding with a view to discovering what happened to Madeleine McCann - the little girl who vanished almost 11 years ago from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz.
The new tranche of £150,000 will purportedly take Grange forwards for another six months.
Coincidentally, a new thesis on the mystery - only last month mailed to Portugal’s Attorney General in the hope that it might change the status quo (click here) - appears to have fallen on stony ground.
The theory, developed over the years by a number of professionals - including a former British police superintendent - challenges the starting point of Grange, which has consistently run-up against claims that its remit is far too narrow (click here) and that the £11 million and rising spent on it this far has been “an expensive farce”.
Certainly, last night’s news regarding the new tranche of funding has prompted an outpouring of criticism from online readers - particularly in the Sun which is, as we write, allowing no-holds-barred comments through, apparently unmonitored.
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So too bad for Petermac? .....
“Operation Grange detectives have refused to say what the "final line of enquiry" is”, affirm reports, but it continues to be used as justification for yet more British Home Office funding with a view to discovering what happened to Madeleine McCann - the little girl who vanished almost 11 years ago from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz.
The new tranche of £150,000 will purportedly take Grange forwards for another six months.
Coincidentally, a new thesis on the mystery - only last month mailed to Portugal’s Attorney General in the hope that it might change the status quo (click here) - appears to have fallen on stony ground.
The theory, developed over the years by a number of professionals - including a former British police superintendent - challenges the starting point of Grange, which has consistently run-up against claims that its remit is far too narrow (click here) and that the £11 million and rising spent on it this far has been “an expensive farce”.
Certainly, last night’s news regarding the new tranche of funding has prompted an outpouring of criticism from online readers - particularly in the Sun which is, as we write, allowing no-holds-barred comments through, apparently unmonitored.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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So too bad for Petermac? .....
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Can someone please explain to me what the
expression "fallen on stony ground" means in others words?
expression "fallen on stony ground" means in others words?
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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fall_on_stony_ground
Basically, it just means that something goes unheard or ignored.
Basically, it just means that something goes unheard or ignored.
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Freedom wrote:https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fall_on_stony_ground
Basically, it just means that something goes unheard or ignored.
I'm sure it has a biblical origin. When seeds are spread, some fall on the fertile ground, and grow and prosper, and some fall on the stony ground, and become - well, nothing.
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Freedom wrote:https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fall_on_stony_ground
Basically, it just means that something goes unheard or ignored.
Not suprising really. Would you write to a professional qualified person to tell them how to do their job, when they have all the tools at their disposal and you had, well, hardly any?
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That's right, unreorganised.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A20-22&version=WE
........especially when the experts are mainly self-proclaimed ones, Candyfloss!
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A20-22&version=WE
........especially when the experts are mainly self-proclaimed ones, Candyfloss!
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https://www.portugalresident.com/goncalo-amaral-is-back-pointing-finger-squarely-at-madeleine-mccanns-parents/
I'm not sure if I knew that Goncalo Amaral had a new book coming out; maybe I have just forgotten because of the lunacy that overtook us last year.
I'm not sure if I knew that Goncalo Amaral had a new book coming out; maybe I have just forgotten because of the lunacy that overtook us last year.
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Guinea Pig wrote:https://www.portugalresident.com/goncalo-amaral-is-back-pointing-finger-squarely-at-madeleine-mccanns-parents/
I'm not sure if I knew that Goncalo Amaral had a new book coming out; maybe I have just forgotten because of the lunacy that overtook us last year.
Thanks for this GP, Goncalo still standing strong since 07, he knows alot more than anyone else
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