The strange case of Margaret Fleming

Another one that keep forgetting about. Just had a look to see what the latest is and this is the most recent article:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/470267/the-cop-leading-the-hunt-for-missing-margaret-fleming-believes-she-may-have-started-a-new-life/

Scottish news tonight had police updating that they have carried out extensive enquiries but no independant witnesses have seen Margaret since the family gathering in 1999. They have only the carers version of events, they also announced that the carers had dealt with her finances for her since she moved in with them. Missed the rest of it when the dog started barking at a tractor but it's not looking good for her being found.

Evening Hesla.

Here's a few articles about it:

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/15253738.Exclusive__Search_for_missing_Margaret_Fleming_taken_to_America_by_detectives/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39745314

https://www.inverclydenow.com/news/local-news/after-six-months-still-no-trace-of-missing-woman-margaret-fleming

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39745314

Regarding this bit, how can her mother be upset when she hasn't bothered to try to contact her since 1999!!

He added: "We remain in contact with Margaret's mother, who understandably is shocked and distressed at her disappearance".

Thanks Andrew will have a flick through those later.

"Local residents say they have never seen Margaret."

IMO something happened to her years ago.

Wonder if they brought cadaver dogs into the garden first and/or used the geophys type machine like the SA fellow did in Murat`s garden (forget his name).

This does seem to be another case where the answer is blindingly obvious to everyone but there just isn't the proof to charge anyone.

Not as yet anyway.

An article from several weeks ago about this one:

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15315049.Missing_Margaret_Fleming_s_carer_allowed_back_into_search_house/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-41542875

The information provided by the so-called carers as to Margaret's current whereabouts makes certain other yarns seem believable - working as a gangmaster!!!!

Working as a gangmaster?? So they have apparently seen her and spoken to her on the phone since she was reported missing and other people have seen. Sorry but......

Unless they have friends in high places (not thinking of anyone else in particular, you understand) they won't get away with telling such a ridiculous story.

..... the story is so highly unlikely, they will probably get away with it.  What did the female mean by "we understand" ?  I must say the man`s story just flowed out of his mouth as if it really happened.

PS  So, she was supposed to be paranoid about going out and authority figures, so how come she found the confidence to get to Poland ?

PPS ..... oh and she`s now probably involved with a drug cartel !!!!!

This lady hasn't been seen since 1999 by anyone other than her carers, and they reported her missing a year ago.  They are now detained by police.

Check out the video and see what you think, take not at the end when the interviewer asks ...   If Margaret is watching what would you say to her....

Video on Link below.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-41765764




Carers detained in hunt for missing woman Margaret Fleming

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Margaret Fleming have detained her carers.
Her disappearance was reported a year ago, but police said she had not been seen by anyone except Eddie Cairney, 75, and Avril Jones, 56, since 1999.
A five-bedroom cottage in Inverkip, Inverclyde, was the subject of intensive police searches.
Officers began a search of the house in November last year which they then extended into the garden.
The operation involved extensive excavation work but no trace of Ms Fleming - who was 19 when she disappeared and would now be 36 - was found by the time it concluded in April.

Officers said she "could have had an accident, possibly wanted to be missing or even something more sinister".
Margaret, who has learning difficulties, was reported missing by Mr Cairney and Ms Jones on 28 October last year.
Officers were initially asked by social work officers to call at the remote house, named Seacroft, which lies next to the coast on the road between Inverkip and Wemyss Bay.
Police said Ms Fleming's bank account had not been accessed for many years, but confirmed she was in receipt of benefits that the carers managed for her.
But other than Mr Cairney and Ms Jones, the last independent sighting of her was at a family gathering on 17 December 1999.

'Persecution complex'

Police have found no trace of Ms Fleming making any contact with the outside world in the years since.
Earlier this month Mr Cairney and Ms Jones spoke for the first time since her disappearance was reported.
The couple told BBC Scotland Ms Fleming had fled when police arrived because she had a "persecution complex".

They also said she had come to "no harm" and claimed they had spoken to her recently.
Mr Cairney said that over the past year Ms Fleming had been in London and Poland and was now working as a gangmaster.
And he said that despite her learning difficulties she was recruiting cheap agricultural labour in the south of England.
Saturday marks the first anniversary of Margaret's disappearance.
Mr Cairney said she had slipped "out of the door" when the police called in relation to the benefits inquiry because she was scared of authority.
Asked if he had seen her since, he said: "Yes, she has been here once. Not here, not to the house, but we have seen her once."
Mr Cairney claimed this was within a month of her being reported missing.

It's blindingly obvious that the couple know what happened to Margaret but whether there's enough proof remains to be seen.

Yes, they ignored the question as to what they would say to her.

Was that the gormless Lorraine Kelly interviewing them?

Thanks for moving, I had forgotten we had a thread on this.

Yes. the reaction from the female at the end of the video is rather odd and that is putting it nicely.

"If Margaret is watching what would you say to her?"

Maybe something like `Please go to a phone box and let police know you`re ok`.

I can`t get my head around how if the police arrived and asked for Margaret, she would have only had about 1 minute to gather her bag, coat, boots etc and scarper - that would have been either into the sea or into the woods or onto a fairly busy road.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9022116,-4.8813696,3a,75y,284.38h,85.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxyBFyICbOXv3GH9U7pmqaQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Inverkip cottage has just been sold to tycoon brothers - there is a demolition order on it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-41679631

I reckon she was taken out into the river Clyde.

If that's what happened, I wonder if there have been any unclaimed unidentified bodies found over the years.

I suppose that the police would have checked that out though.

Poor girl - to think that nobody knew or cared that she hadn't been seen for years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-41781297

The carers have been charged and I believe are in custody.

Coincidentally it's a year to the day since the police called at the house and were told that Margaret had just dodged them.

The police must have gathered quite lot of evidence. There are assault and fraud charges as well as the murder ones.