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Post  Andrew Sun 19 Feb 2017, 3:04 pm

Snipped from above:

Whitewashed Apartment 5A in the Ocean Club was once sealed off as a crime scene as forensic experts and cadaver “blood” and “death” trained sniffer dogs scoured it after three-year-old Maddie was snatched from her bed during a family holiday in May 2007.
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Post  unreorganised Sun 19 Feb 2017, 3:36 pm

Andrew wrote:Snipped from above:

Whitewashed Apartment 5A in the Ocean Club was once sealed off as a crime scene as forensic experts and cadaver “blood” and “death” trained sniffer dogs scoured it after three-year-old Maddie was snatched from her bed during a family holiday in May 2007.

The new owner recently declined to discuss the global fascination with her flat, saying: “I don’t want to talk about it. I’m trying to wipe away all memories of the horror that happened here.”

Odd expression to use, "Wipe away".
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Post  Andrew Sun 19 Feb 2017, 4:48 pm

unreorganised wrote:
Andrew wrote:Snipped from above:

Whitewashed Apartment 5A in the Ocean Club was once sealed off as a crime scene as forensic experts and cadaver “blood” and “death” trained sniffer dogs scoured it after three-year-old Maddie was snatched from her bed during a family holiday in May 2007.

The new owner recently declined to discuss the global fascination with her flat, saying: “I don’t want to talk about it. I’m trying to wipe away all memories of the horror that happened here.”

Odd expression to use, "Wipe away".

Exactly what K and G were doing in the apt before they raised the alarm.
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Post  Poe Sun 19 Feb 2017, 5:44 pm

Andrew wrote:
unreorganised wrote:
Andrew wrote:Snipped from above:

Whitewashed Apartment 5A in the Ocean Club was once sealed off as a crime scene as forensic experts and cadaver “blood” and “death” trained sniffer dogs scoured it after three-year-old Maddie was snatched from her bed during a family holiday in May 2007.

The new owner recently declined to discuss the global fascination with her flat, saying: “I don’t want to talk about it. I’m trying to wipe away all memories of the horror that happened here.”

Odd expression to use, "Wipe away".

Exactly what K and G were doing in the apt before they raised the alarm.

If I were the McCanns, I would have bought the apartment.

With its history, it would have gone for less than the market value. Completely renovating the interior would ensure that there isn't the slightest chance of any further evidence being found there and the McCanns owning it would prevent anyone cashing in by allowing tourists to visit the scene of the crime.

The extended McCann family were quick enough to descend on PdL when Madeleine vanished so I don't think they'd find the apartment's history off-putting if it offered the chance of free accommodation.

IMO.

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Post  Châtelaine Sun 19 Feb 2017, 5:58 pm

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Post  froggy Sun 19 Feb 2017, 6:03 pm

Poe wrote:
Andrew wrote:
unreorganised wrote:
Andrew wrote:Snipped from above:

Whitewashed Apartment 5A in the Ocean Club was once sealed off as a crime scene as forensic experts and cadaver “blood” and “death” trained sniffer dogs scoured it after three-year-old Maddie was snatched from her bed during a family holiday in May 2007.

The new owner recently declined to discuss the global fascination with her flat, saying: “I don’t want to talk about it. I’m trying to wipe away all memories of the horror that happened here.”

Odd expression to use, "Wipe away".

Exactly what K and G were doing in the apt before they raised the alarm.

If I were the McCanns, I would have bought the apartment.

With its history, it would have gone for less than the market value. Completely renovating the interior would ensure that there isn't the slightest chance of any further evidence being found there and the McCanns owning it would prevent anyone cashing in by allowing tourists to visit the scene of the crime.

The extended McCann family were quick enough to descend on PdL when Madeleine vanished so I don't think they'd find the apartment's history off-putting if it offered the chance of free accommodation.

IMO.


Somehow I think they might be expected to pay - the McCanns aren't a charity, you know Very Happy
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Post  Dee Coy Sun 19 Feb 2017, 6:12 pm

Poe wrote:
Andrew wrote:
unreorganised wrote:
Andrew wrote:Snipped from above:

Whitewashed Apartment 5A in the Ocean Club was once sealed off as a crime scene as forensic experts and cadaver “blood” and “death” trained sniffer dogs scoured it after three-year-old Maddie was snatched from her bed during a family holiday in May 2007.

The new owner recently declined to discuss the global fascination with her flat, saying: “I don’t want to talk about it. I’m trying to wipe away all memories of the horror that happened here.”

Odd expression to use, "Wipe away".

Exactly what K and G were doing in the apt before they raised the alarm.

If I were the McCanns, I would have bought the apartment.

With its history, it would have gone for less than the market value. Completely renovating the interior would ensure that there isn't the slightest chance of any further evidence being found there and the McCanns owning it would prevent anyone cashing in by allowing tourists to visit the scene of the crime.

The extended McCann family were quick enough to descend on PdL when Madeleine vanished so I don't think they'd find the apartment's history off-putting if it offered the chance of free accommodation.

IMO.


There's a thought. Part of the 'investment'?

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Post  Guest Sun 19 Feb 2017, 6:33 pm

Whitewashed Apartment 5A

WHITEWASHED!
Right on the money.
The McCann version of Madeleine's story is a whitewash.
Or - as many believe - the entire apartment was "sanitized" before the forensics investigators could come in and do their work. Another whitewash.
Or - are they referring to OG?
Well done, media, for the subtle dig!

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Post  TheTruthWillOut Sun 19 Feb 2017, 7:19 pm

canada12 wrote:Whitewashed Apartment 5A

WHITEWASHED!
Right on the money.
The McCann version of Madeleine's story is a whitewash.
Or - as many believe - the entire apartment was "sanitized" before the forensics investigators could come in and do their work. Another whitewash.
Or - are they referring to OG?
Well done, media, for the subtle dig!

Along with the previous Sun article with the headline: 'Cover Up Challenge'. Surely playing with words/shout out to OG that they haven't been forgotten.
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Post  candyfloss Sun 19 Feb 2017, 7:50 pm


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Kate and Gerry McCann’s lawyer confirmed they would use money from the “Find Madeleine” fund in a bid to overturn the ruling, and challenge claims by former police chief Goncalo Amaral that they had faked their daughter's abduction


Where is this helping Madeleine in any way, the fund is for looking for her not lawyers.


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Post  Châtelaine Sun 19 Feb 2017, 8:13 pm

Exactly, Candyfloss.
That's what it was supposed to be about and then never was ....
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Post  Heisenburg Sun 19 Feb 2017, 9:18 pm

candyfloss wrote:

snipped from article..


Kate and Gerry McCann’s lawyer confirmed they would use money from the “Find Madeleine” fund in a bid to overturn the ruling, and challenge claims by former police chief Goncalo Amaral that they had faked their daughter's abduction


Where is this helping Madeleine in any way, the fund is for looking for her not lawyers.


Not sure on that.

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Post  Andrew Sun 19 Feb 2017, 9:33 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-say-keep-9851773

Madeleine McCann's parents say they will keep fighting libel battle with ex-cop and bring their daughter home
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Post  froggy Sun 19 Feb 2017, 9:43 pm

“They have now made a complaint over the ruling to that court, it is sort of like an appeal.”

Novel. An appeal against the Supreme Court. I wonder who will hear it?
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Post  Bampots Sun 19 Feb 2017, 11:36 pm

http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/19/new-legal-battle-for-mccanns-against-claims-they-faked-madeleines-abduction-6458128/


New legal battle for McCanns against claims they faked Madeleine’s abduction
Charles White Sunday 19 Feb 2017 12:22 pm

Kate and Gerry McCann will continue their legal battle against claims they faked their daughter’s abduction. 
The couple previously lost their appeal to the Portuguese Supreme Court over a book by former police chief Goncalo Amaral, which claimed Madeline McCann ‘died’ and her ‘abduction’ was a cover-up

Courts had reversed a libel win against the author in 2016 and the highest court in the land supported the reversal

The parents of Maddie, who went missing in 2007 from an apartment in Praia da Luz, have lodged a formal complaint against the ruling.
Kate and Gerry now face having to pay the author’s legal fees and potentially being sued by him.

Amaral’s book ‘The Truth of the Lie’ was published three days after Kate and Gerry were regarded as no longer formal suspects in their daughter’s search.

The Supreme Court also claimed they were not ‘formally in the clear’ and said in court papers that the dropping of ‘arguido’ or suspects status did not equate to innocence.

The court ruling, amounting to a 78-page document, said: ‘It should not be said that the appellants were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case.’
Adding stopping of the case against the pair: ‘Was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn’t managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the crimes by the appellants.’

They continued: ‘It doesn’t therefore seem acceptable that the ruling, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be equated to proof of innocence.’

Amaral, 57, had originally led the case investigating the disappearance of Madeleine and was ordered to pay £360,000 to the parents in a libel case.
But that 2015 ruling has now been overturned once in April last year and now at the Supreme Court.
The court said the author did not have a ‘defamatory intention’ and the book was not a personal and unjustified attack.

It has been reported that Kate and Gerry are thinking of taking the case to the European Court of Human Rights.
When the ruling from the Supreme Court came down the couple: ‘What we have been told by our lawyers is obviously extremely disappointing.[/size]
]‘It is eight years since we brought the action, and in that time the landscape has changed dramatically, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police and Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we have always wanted.

The police in both countries continue to work on the basis that there is no evidence Madeleine has come to physical harm.

We will of course be discussing the implications of the Supreme Court ruling with our lawyers in due course.’
The court touched on Kate and Gerry’s decision to leave Madeleine alone as they went to a tapas bar with friends. Saying: ‘We must also recognise that the parents are paying a heavy penalty over the disappearance of Madeleine for their carelessness in monitoring and protecting their children.

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Post  froggy Mon 20 Feb 2017, 2:44 pm

It would be nice to know exactly what they are complaining about. The media seems unclear.
The Supreme Court has made it's decision based on it's interpretation of the law and it is the highest court in the land and in it's own words is final.
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Post  Andrew Mon 20 Feb 2017, 3:03 pm

It's all balderdash. They aren't going to appeal/complain/overturn or do anything. Apart from coughing up a very nice tidy sum in costs that will totally wipe them out.

Imo etc.
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