Gerry McCann Says Make Example Of Web Trolls
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Gerry McCann Says Make Example Of Web Trolls
Madeleine McCann's father calls for more prosecutions after Sky News revealed details of a dossier of abuse targeting his family.
http://news.sky.com/story/1346687/gerry-mccann-says-make-example-of-web-trolls
Madeleine McCann's father calls for more prosecutions after Sky News revealed details of a dossier of abuse targeting his family.
http://news.sky.com/story/1346687/gerry-mccann-says-make-example-of-web-trolls
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It all reeks of absolute desperation now for Team Mccann. Chucking everything including the kitchen sink in for the final battle. One last chance to try and keep heads above water.
Just IMO of course.
Just IMO of course.
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It's all a bit 'cart before the horse' isn't it? I'd expect Gerry to wait for the investigation to finish before starting this campaign. Why hasn't he waited for the conclusion? A leopard doesn't change its spots, and the McCanns' modus operandi has always been to pre-empt bad news and saturate media coverage with nonsense. So I expect something to be made known fairly soon.
The biggest change in this latest campaign is that Gerry is fronting it himself, rather than letting his lackeys do the dirty work and maintaining a 'respectable distance' from the media. I know that he's put himself out front before, but not for a while now.
The biggest change in this latest campaign is that Gerry is fronting it himself, rather than letting his lackeys do the dirty work and maintaining a 'respectable distance' from the media. I know that he's put himself out front before, but not for a while now.
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Yep, I'm in total agreement with you guys and as I've just said on another thread, it doesn't really matter what opinion the public have, it's the evidence that the police have that will direct the fate of the McCanns
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Sonia Poulton @SoniaPoulton ·
.@metpoliceuk I get trolled, threats & smears. Your officers say they can do nothing. How come you're opening a 'troll' file for McCanns?
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candyfloss wrote:Sonia Poulton @SoniaPoulton ·
.@metpoliceuk I get trolled, threats & smears. Your officers say they can do nothing. How come you're opening a 'troll' file for McCanns?
Correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding that the police have acknowledged receipt of a file documenting the "hate campaign" against the McCanns. They further stated that the file has been passed on to Operation Grange and, unless I've missed something, that is all they've said.
I'm sure that the McCanns want Operation Grange to concentrate on the search for their live findable daughter rather than waste valuable time and resources investigating comments that the McCanns were apparently unaware of.
Still the dossier could be useful to the investigation - it could prop up a wobbly table
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What about the abuse we have got from the McCanns and their paid mouthpiece, Clarence Mitchell? I have never, ever left any of my kids alone in a foreign hotel room in order to have some "me" time or "get into" my pals. Clearly it's NOT a quirky British custom and we DON'T "all do it", but he slandered my family and others by claiming that we all did.
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Poe wrote:candyfloss wrote:Sonia Poulton @SoniaPoulton ·
.@metpoliceuk I get trolled, threats & smears. Your officers say they can do nothing. How come you're opening a 'troll' file for McCanns?
Correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding that the police have acknowledged receipt of a file documenting the "hate campaign" against the McCanns. They further stated that the file has been passed on to Operation Grange and, unless I've missed something, that is all they've said.
I'm sure that the McCanns want Operation Grange to concentrate on the search for their live findable daughter rather than waste valuable time and resources investigating comments that the McCanns were apparently unaware of.
Still the dossier could be useful to the investigation - it could prop up a wobbly table
That is exactly right Poe
http://news.sky.com/story/1345871/evil-trolls-in-hate-campaign-against-mccanns
The Met wrote to the campaigners: "In consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service and the McCann family the material will now be assessed and decisions made as to what further action if any should be undertaken."
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That is exactly right Poe
http://news.sky.com/story/1345871/evil-trolls-in-hate-campaign-against-mccanns
The Met wrote to the campaigners: "In consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service and the McCann family the material will now be assessed and decisions made as to what further action if any should be undertaken."
And today Gerry McCann has used Sky and Radio 4 to pile pressure on the Met to prosecute. Strange priorities, huh?
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wlbts wrote:chrissie wrote:
That is exactly right Poe
http://news.sky.com/story/1345871/evil-trolls-in-hate-campaign-against-mccanns
The Met wrote to the campaigners: "In consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service and the McCann family the material will now be assessed and decisions made as to what further action if any should be undertaken."
And today Gerry McCann has used Sky and Radio 4 to pile pressure on the Met to prosecute. Strange priorities, huh?
Yet IIRC didn't I read that the abductor would be forgiven? Strange priorities imo.
They should prosecute both sides in that case, because the pros are just as bad. however, Idon't think you can prosecute someone for being nasty, (and there is plenty of that everywhere) you can prosecute for actual threats, but I must confess, I haven't seen any. People ranting on a hashtag is not nice, and I dislike it and don't condone it, but it goes on everywhere not just McCann tag, just how many are they going to prosecute, where does it stop.
I looked in on the #sweepyface hashtag yesterday, absolutely unbelievable! All those saintly people tweeting on there at sweepyface, horrible comments - their tweets were worse than hers, - talk about pot and kettle. The media is at fault imo whipping things up into a frenzy.
The www is good in some ways but it is full of nasty people behind anonymous names, you are never going to stamp it out, unless of course we have a dictatorship.
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I have to admit, that at times - ever since 2007 - I have wondered, if this was a hoax, trying to find out what would happen on the internet, emerging social networks, etc., which were from the beginning obviously difficult to control. Especially since MMU [UK Media Monitoring Unit] was involved since the very beginning. Bury the world and his dog under an endless contradicting, badly told story story with LOTS of MMS exposure and see what happens. Then use the "end" result to stiffen free speech on that new media ...
Not that I think this is really the case, but - as I said - I occasionally wondered, as I do now for a moment.
Not that I think this is really the case, but - as I said - I occasionally wondered, as I do now for a moment.
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Sweepyface: '...neighbours and friends said she was "very nice", "a lovely woman" & "a very good friend" http://www.christiantoday.com/article/woman.who.trolled.kate.and.gerry.mccann.on.twitter.is.a.regular.churchgoer/41237.htm … #McC
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Châtelaine wrote: I have to admit, that at times - ever since 2007 - I have wondered, if this was a hoax, trying to find out what would happen on the internet, emerging social networks, etc., which were from the beginning obviously difficult to control. Especially since MMU [UK Media Monitoring Unit] was involved since the very beginning. Bury the world and his dog under an endless contradicting, badly told story story with LOTS of MMS exposure and see what happens. Then use the "end" result to stiffen free speech on that new media ...
Not that I think this is really the case, but - as I said - I occasionally wondered, as I do now for a moment.
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Sorry just have to put this up, it is a classic..............
flyer @basilandmanuel · 2 mins2 minutes ago
@JillyCL You are all cowards #McCann not the guts to put your name to your tweets #McCann
Hahaha, says flyer
Bit like, 'don't tell 'em your name Pike'
flyer @basilandmanuel · 2 mins2 minutes ago
@JillyCL You are all cowards #McCann not the guts to put your name to your tweets #McCann
Hahaha, says flyer
Bit like, 'don't tell 'em your name Pike'
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wlbts wrote:chrissie wrote:
That is exactly right Poe
http://news.sky.com/story/1345871/evil-trolls-in-hate-campaign-against-mccanns
The Met wrote to the campaigners: "In consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service and the McCann family the material will now be assessed and decisions made as to what further action if any should be undertaken."
And today Gerry McCann has used Sky and Radio 4 to pile pressure on the Met to prosecute. Strange priorities, huh?
Yep. These parents of a missing child would appear to be asking the Met to release men dedicated to finding their daughter from those duties in order to spend time investigating this new priority. Well well.
What could be their motivation there?
Persuit of the 'trolls' or
A inexplicable attempt to distract operations from their path? But why would they do that?
Either way, it won't help the person still missing at the centre of this. If she's still alive, any interruption of the investigation could only prolong her plight, and what loving parent could wish for that, never mind pre-empt such a diversion, surely?
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A copy of this post needs to go here that Andrew has put on other thread.............
Andrew wrote:http://my-mccann-thoughts.blogspot.co.uk/
Friday, October 3, 2014
TROLLS
Before I return to analysis of evidence in McCann case I thought I would write a short post inspired by the recent internet troll saga in the McCann case.
TROLLS
First let me make my position crystal clear:
No one should feel it is their right to ridicule, insult, harass or make untrue or unprovable accusations about anyone, either on the internet, in newspapers on TV/radio or anywhere else. Freedom of speech is a right that carries with it responsibilities. No one should abuse this right.
There is absolutely no doubt that, for want of a better phrase, "internet trolls" comment on the McCann case. These people "infect" social media & the internet in general with inappropriate and occasionally highly offensive material. Trolls on both sides of the debate engage in these tactics. Anyone reading #mccann on twitter can quickly see the daily attempts by trolls on both sides to provoke, insult and attack the other.
Trolls who claim to support the McCann's clearly attempt to provoke more and more outrageous comments from their opponents. Once they succeed they then re-post these comments in a forlorn attempt to claim the moral high ground. These McCann supporting trolls also cherry pick items from the evidence and claim it "proves" their point while at the same time ignoring evidence that suggests the opposite. They insult anyone who questions their opinion, sometimes disgracefully invoking mental health issues. They present strawman arguments (effectively lying) in an effort to discredit their opponents position. They are rude, intolerant, aggressive and spiteful. Most claim to do this to support the McCann family, but how can their actions do anything of the sort? Pouring petrol on a fire doesn't put it out. If the McCann's are aware of their actions, it is hard to imagine they are not, they must surely be appalled by what they see.
Trolls, some of whom claim to support Madeleine, by claim that the evidence proves her parents are guilty of some crime (anything from negligence to murder) are equally shameful. For example there are large numbers of photoshopped images circulating. Some are obviously photoshopped and meant in jest (albeit often in very poor taste), but others are circulated as if they are genuine and can create an entirely false impression. Cherry picked items of evidence, often inaccurately quoted, are posted along with claims that this proves the McCann's guilt. Suggestions that there may be innocent explanations for these are ignored or ridiculed. They frequently accuse the McCann parents of various criminal acts, none of which can be proved & occasionally one will make an outrageous threat to harm the McCann family in some way. To claim that these actions are in any way supporting a missing child is ridiculous and offensive.
Facebook groups, Blogs and forums are similarly infected by these trolls. In my opinion none of the trolls has a genuine interest in any of the following:
1. Finding out what happened to Madeleine McCann.
2. Supporting the McCann family over the loss of their daughter.
3. Finding Madeleine.
So I make this appeal to the trolls on both sides. STOP! If you write a tweet or post which only has as it's only purpose insulting, provoking or accusing someone else don't post it.
If you want to why not START, engaging in a proper discussion and analysis of the evidence. Accept your own shortcomings & the shortcomings of others and try to improve the overall level of understanding about this case and perhaps others. DON'T be taken in by propaganda from either side. READ the PJfiles http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/ & RESEARCH other relevant information, such as interviews, press articles and background information using all means available to you.
Above all KEEP AN OPEN MIND & be receptive to different opinions and ideas.
Finally, NEVER forget that at the heart of this case is a missing girl who was almost 4 years old when she vanished & would be 11 now. She is more important than your petty point scoring and childish insults and games. Her disappearance remains an as yet unsolved mystery. At the time of publishing this blog anyone who claims different is a liar.
EVERYONE ELSE
Not everyone who comments on the McCann case online is a troll. There are people, who do seem to have a genuine interest in The McCann case. They fall into several categories
1. Those with a genuine interest in finding out what happened to Madeleine.
Some think the balance of evidence supports the abduction hypothesis, some think that it supports anything but the abduction hypothesis, some are genuinely undecided, but all seem to share a genuine interest in the mystery and choose to spend their leisure time discussing the evidence and various hypotheses to explain Madeleine's disappearance.
2. Those who campaign for missing people & children.
Usually these people believe that Madeleine was abducted, or take the view that it is better to believe this unless it is proven otherwise.
3. Those who are concerned about paedophilia and government cover-ups in the UK & who think the McCann case is an example of one or both.
Often referred to as "conspiraloons" such people are very important in a democracy. Usually they are completely mis-guided, but every now and again they shed light on something that really needs to be uncovered. Unfortunately they can be over zealous in their words and actions which gives more fuel for the McCann supporter trolls to throw on the flames.
4. Those with a casual interest in the case.
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