Re: Thoughts on Conspiracy Theories

Andrew Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:03 pm

You'd think he knew a lot more. And probably did, imo.

Got done on child porn on his computer if recall.

**Freedom** Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:08 pm

Yes, that was the only thing he was charged with.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/sep/16/ukcrime

Andrew Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:10 pm

I still don't understand why some think Hazell is innocent...

A monster.

Some of those shite blogs that reckons he's innocent...

Did he write them himself. Or at least a family member.

Scum. End of.

Andrew Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:22 pm

... perhaps a poll needs to be set up with the Huntley stuff.

Interesting that a few think he's been stitched up.

Me.. I think he should never ever be released.

But that's just my opinion.

Bloodhound Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:25 pm

Andrew wrote:I still don't understand why some think Hazell is innocent...

A monster.

Some of those shite blogs that reckons he's innocent...

Did he write them himself. Or at least a family member.

Scum. End of.

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It's obvious reading those blogs that they havn't researched the facts of the case, they certainly don't mention any of the facts. It took me all but an hour or so to see the man was as guilty as sin by looking at his self serving, I clean the house and feed and clean up after Tia, mr nice guy crap, and reading the facts about the dogs and evidence. Those blogs obviously don't want to hear he is guilty. One even said if he confessed, they still wouldn't believe it Shocked

Bloodhound Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:26 pm

Andrew wrote:... perhaps a poll needs to be set up with the Huntley stuff.

Interesting that a few think he's been stitched up.

Me.. I think he should never ever be released.

But that's just my opinion.

There's a lot of dodgy things about that case that just doesn't sit right with me.

Bloodhound Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:28 pm

costello wrote:Not one hundred percent sure here Bloodhound, but there was talk of an older man with learning difficulties who 'may' have been regarded as a suspect. I lived in Pathead(which is the next village to Dalkeith) and I am sure what I did hear came from the villagers as I can't remember paying close attention to the media. However at one point I'm sure I did think Luke was innocent, but it has been so long now, who knows.

So that's two more possible suspects that havn't been looked into or their DNA tested against the DNA found on her body.
I hope his family keep fighting for Luke. I really think they found the wrong fella guilty.

Andrew Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:33 pm

Bloodhound wrote:
Andrew wrote:... perhaps a poll needs to be set up with the Huntley stuff.

Interesting that a few think he's been stitched up.

Me.. I think he should never ever be released.

But that's just my opinion.

There's a lot of dodgy things about that case that just doesn't sit right with me.

But as I said before... this talk is from 'camp Huntley' I guess..

So how can any of that stuff be verified....

Genuine question...

Read a lot. Not all, but he did do it.

Not buying this drugged up/US airforce cover up stuff.

Not knocking anyone who thinks otherwise... imo, Huntley did it and another one who is scum.

Bloodhound Fri 15 Jul 2016, 10:47 pm

There were several reliable witnesses who saw both girls after he was supposed to have killed them. There was another witness who saw a man struggle with two girls in a green car in front of him, driving erratically, one girl had a phone. It matched to the pings on one of the girls phones. None of these witnesses were called to give evidence. In fact I don't think any witness was called to give evidence in his defence even though there were many.

There are lots of things about the case that stinks.

I may be totally wrong, maybe the police knew it was him and did a few things to make sure of a conviction. But in my opinion he didn't do it, I'm not a big lover of the conspiracy blogs that only report on one side of the story. I like to get all sides of the story.

It's been a long time since I read, in dept, the Huntley case, but I followed it at the time and at the time I believed it was a big stitch up.

I like to challenge and be challenged because only then can I make a proper judgement.

P.S
It's refreshing to be able to do that here without being called a troll, a disrupter and getting banned Very Happy

Everyone is so nice even when we disagree.

Andrew Fri 15 Jul 2016, 11:03 pm

It's good to disagree. What you won't find on here is a a load of blue ink forcing rubbish.

Still think Huntley is guilty though.

Bloodhound Fri 15 Jul 2016, 11:08 pm

You may well be right Andrew. I need to read up on it all again and refresh my memory maybe find new stuff I hadn't read before. In a few days I might be saying he is guilty too.
But for now I'm saying he was stitched up Very Happy

Andrew Fri 15 Jul 2016, 11:24 pm

Was stitched up myself earlier...

Got a large round in. But nothing back apart from 1 so far.

A disgrace.

Bloodhound Fri 15 Jul 2016, 11:30 pm

That's a crime where I live Very Happy

poster Sun 17 Jul 2016, 11:12 pm

Bloodhound wrote:@Poster

I can't see anything weird about the dogs at all, they alerted and were ignored.

I think he hid the body in the attic with the intention of moving her when he could. He might not have had time to dispose of her, but I certainly don't believe he intended keeping her there for too long. But then he didn't know he would be put under house arrest, so he had no choice but to leave her there.

Maybe Tia had a good relationship with her granny and preferred staying with her. I don't know. But I don't think the body was planted in the attic. It was impossible. Hazell was under house arrest and was there during the searches. Tia's grandmother may have been there too.

Plus the fact he admitted he did it by accident, hid the body because he panicked. His confession was nothing like Huntleys, he wasn't drugged up, he wasn't carted off to a mental hospital. He was clear in his confession, and his plea from not guilty to guilty.

I honestly can't see, with all the evidence available and a bit of logic, how you think someone else killed her and planted the body there, and for hazell never to use this as a defence at any time, if it was the case, it would be stupid on his part, and he doesn't seem stupid to me.

But anyway, I think I read that there were one or two more sources of DNA found on Tia, so maybe he didn't work alone or had help getting her to the attic. But I think he'd be the type to have said so by now if someone else was involved.

Looking into his background he is a dodgy character, and his browsing history just adds to the evidence that he was a pervert.

I hear what you are saying but if he really was the killer why would he be so stupid as to leave so much incriminating evidence around?

Also, there is no indication whatsoever in the video-footage taken on the day that Tia was shopping with Tazell that there was anything untoward about the relationship. On the contrary - they seem quite relaxed around each other.

poster Sun 17 Jul 2016, 11:13 pm

Andrew wrote:It's good to disagree. What you won't find on here is a a load of blue ink forcing rubbish.

Still think Huntley is guilty though.

Why? Why do you think that?

poster Sun 17 Jul 2016, 11:15 pm

I'm outta here..

guys and girls stick to your prejudices, your silly games and all that shit....

bye...

PMR Sun 17 Jul 2016, 11:20 pm

Oh dear, fortunately Poster people are allowed to express their opinions as long as they're polite , Dummy spitting , like getting essential details wrong does nothing to strengthen your arguments

costello Sun 17 Jul 2016, 11:28 pm

Raw nerve or what? very strange behaviour indeed!

**candyfloss** Sun 17 Jul 2016, 11:36 pm

costello wrote:Raw nerve or what? very strange behaviour indeed!

That was very odd indeedy!! scratch

PMR Sun 17 Jul 2016, 11:53 pm

Given how Posters behaviour tended to change later on in the evening,I suspect the taking in of alcoholic substances maybe a factor

costello Mon 18 Jul 2016, 12:06 am

PMR wrote:Given how Posters behaviour tended to change later on in the evening,I suspect the taking in of alcoholic substances maybe a factor

That did cross my mind too PMR.

Andrew Mon 18 Jul 2016, 10:06 am

Was it something I said.....

Very odd behaviour and clearly this Ian Huntley stuff has hit a bit of a raw nerve.

Strange to say the least to spit your dummy out when some think Huntley is absolute scum.

chirpyinsect Mon 18 Jul 2016, 10:19 am

Bit of a mystery. Poster didn't usually get fired up by people disagreeing with her. It can be frustrating when people don't see what you think you see but that could be the case with lots of subjects. The Huntley discussion certainly pushed buttons.
I hope she comes back after a break. Sometimes it just gets to us all.

**Freedom** Mon 18 Jul 2016, 10:32 am

He (?) hasn't deleted his account (yet anyway) so he may be back.

The flouncing off - have had enough of this etc - is very reminiscent of an earlier member both here and on CMoMM whom I now think was a McCann supporter. Well, someone has to be!

I know that Poster is not alone in believing that Ian Huntley is innocent but it is an extreme minority belief for me and I did wonder if his going on and on about it was to try and label McCann doubters as loopy conspiracy theorists too.

Andrew Mon 18 Jul 2016, 12:18 pm

He is a she as she has said before.

She obviously feels very passionate about the whole 'Huntley is innocent affair' which is fair enough if that's your belief.

Just a shame she had to react in the way she did.

Maybe some time-out is needed to cool down then come back and discuss it in a more constructive and rational way.

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