Thoughts on Conspiracy Theories

Other instances if id left behind. Some I didn't know of.

http://whowhatwhy.org/

2nd article down.

I've not looked into any of this as yet (apart from reading the headlines in the BBC/SKY etc) so will read/watch the links at some point later on.

It's extraordinary how these people's ID always pop up intact. And they always bring it with them when doing a 'job'.

chirpyinsect wrote:I'm going to go even further and suggest that the shooting of the Russian diplomat in Ankara bears further examination.
For example. A gunman has just shot someone 9 times in the back yet he falls forward and his glasses end up behind him.
There is no blood and no exit wounds. Later film shows the ambassador arriving at hospital.His shirt is open, he is on his back yet there is no blood or wounds visible.
The gunman was filmed from outside through a window yet the part of the gallery he was in had no windows around him.
How would anyone on the outside know to film it anyway?
The brave cameraman hardly flinched as a mad gunman waved a weapon around.
There were pictures taken from another angle, off to the left of the gunman yet there is no one else there in the official footage.
No shell casings.

Apologies for the language in this video.

https://youtu.be/FV-IQgDwY6c

Hi chirpy - I don`t know if you`ve seen this video but the fellow seems rational, has broken the various videos down and has experience in policing and forensics. He shows where the blood is coming out of the ambassador`s head and says (which I agreed) that you don`t get much blood coming out of back wounds. He also picks out all the shell casings on the floor. This fellow does make a comment about there being a suspicion that Erdogan may have instigated it, sort of "whoops sorry, but nothing to do with us". Erdogan is bound to be anti-Putin even though Putin made the effort to meet with him in recent weeks.

Sorry not ignoring you Mimi. Will check this guy out tomorrow as late here. I still think the shooting is a hoax but am open to persuasion. Put it this way we don't know what way is up any more.
On another note. Chin up. They will come round.xx

Andrew wrote:Think this was the thread where Ian Huntley was discussed.

A couple of articles about him:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1608626/child-murderer-ian-huntley-struts-around-as-king-of-the-wing-but-is-secretly-a-suicidal-zombie/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/soham-killer-ian-huntleys-sinister-8626339

We do KNOW however that TM released a photo of Madeleine McCann - allegedly - wearing a football T-shirt which was reminiscent of the last photo taken of the poor Soham girls. Clearly the photo of the Soham girls was released because it showed what they were last wearing when they disappeared and therefore might help find them.

There is no indication why the photo of a girl who was allegedly Madeleine McCann (but doesn't look like her, imo) was released wearing a sponsored football shirt? What was the reason for that? How would it help find her? When was the photo taken, according to the devoted parents, friends and the odious pink one?

chirpyinsect wrote:Sorry not ignoring you Mimi. Will check this guy out tomorrow as late here. I still think the shooting is a hoax but am open to persuasion. Put it this way we don't know what way is up any more.
On another note. Chin up. They will come round.xx

XXX

Andrew wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4061096/Danish-police-say-man-matching-description-Berlin-lorry-attack-suspect-seen-Aalborg.html

That was handy that he had the ticket still on him so they could trace his route. And how did Italian police know he was likely to be in Milan so were on the lookout for him? He pulled a 22mm pistol from his backpack and shot a policeman in the shoulder.
I wonder what calibre gun was used to shoot the original Polish lorry driver in the head.

Same guy?

The first is the Polish lorry driver taken recently. The 2nd is of him after he was killed.

There is camera phone footage of the aftermath of the lorry crash which as always is shaky and grainy. I don't have a sophisticated phone but it takes better pictures than those. Also if a great big lorry ploughed into a crowd, would you not run as fast as you could away from the scene, not wander around filming the supposed dying? That lorry could have been packed with explosives.

Link from Daily Mail article where the lorry driver phoned his boss,who is his cousin,at lunchtime saying the area he was in was full of moslems not Germans. Are there no German moslems then?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/

Weird goings-on with the Turkish nightclub shooting on New Year's Eve.

I need to look into other footage of the event and I'm not making any assumptions that it didn't happen.

However, this clip does make you wonder.

Weird. And as the narrator says:

1. He doesn't appear to be in any pain despite a supposed gunshot wound to the leg. That is a serious potentially life-threatening injury. And presumably very painful.
2. Why get the story wrong?  First he talks about people then he says he saw one person. So which was it?
3. Why are the medics allowing a man with a serious and potentially life-threatening injury to be interviewed?

Among all body parts which may be affected by a gunshot wound, arms and legs are considered as the most frequent ones. Depending on the bullet size and the affected site, gunshot wounds on the arms or legs can be fatal. If the bullet hits a tendon or major muscles, for instance, it may lead to major damage and even disability. Gunshot wounds to the arms or legs can also be life-threatening when the victim experiences rapid blood loss or infection. Hence, treating a gunshot wound in this area properly is as crucial as treating one in considered-more-vulnerable locations.




http://woundcaresociety.org/treat-gunshot-wound-leg

Snipped from an interesting article I found on RDHall's FB

SOTT – Reports from France indicate that the French military have been caught red-handed in the act of preparing an ISIS false flag terror attack on its own citizens – and none of their excuses are making any sense.  ISIS flags, video equipment, Arabic newspapers and a generator were discovered by gardeners in a cave outside the town of Saumur – causing panic among local citizens who called the local and national police, as well as anti-terrorist units.  


With scores of police and emergency personnel on the scene, a senior military figure intervened, announcing that the contents of the cave belonged to the military and were part of a mysterious, as yet unexplained “exercise.”

Perhaps one of our French members could recall if this ever made national news.

What about the Staged False Flag Attacks In France that are being carried out by the French Military and MOSSAD.       https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2016/09/29/france-french-military-just-caught-staging-isis-false-flag/

chirpyinsect wrote:[...]
Perhaps one of our French members could recall if this ever made national news.

What about the Staged False Flag Attacks In France that are being carried out by the French Military and MOSSAD.       https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2016/09/29/france-french-military-just-caught-staging-isis-false-flag/

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Sorry, I daily follow news, including French, of course, but I have NO idea.

There have been in my opinion some barking mad rumours on the Internet in recent years about the Obama family.

No, not just about where Barack Obama was or wasn't born - that's the comparatively sane bit - but that he is actually gay and Muslim and that his wife was born male so their children were either adopted or born to a surrogate.

So far all the "proof" I have seen is nonsense about the length of Michelle's fingers (by that reckoning I'm male too), some clearly doctored photos in tight clothing revealing things that shouldn't be there and her Wikipedia page amended to read that she was born Michael.

Before I assign it permanently to the dustbin of sheer hokum, does anyone have any thoughts on the subject?

Yea some of those vids are believeable, but then sense kicks in and you realise that people can edit and change loads of stuff these days.

I don't think I've seen any that are believable.

I hope that one day it will be possible for any presidential candidate to be open about his sexuality and that of his wife / partner - it would be accepted and there would be no need for any of the made-up nonsense surrounding the Obamas.

Just in case anyone needs convincing of the unlikeliness of any of this being true, I shall post this link without further comment......

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13424-president-trump-s-inauguration#354568

Freedom wrote:Just in case anyone needs convincing of the unlikeliness of any of this being true, I shall post this link without further comment......

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13424-president-trump-s-inauguration#354568

I agree with a lot of what TB has posted on that topic. BO Homosexual yes - people from his college days have spoken about it and a fellow `lover` has testified in great detail how he gave pleasure to BO. Not so sure about what is said about Michelle (or `Michael` as BO has accidentally referred to her) - her voice is feminine even though her body is masculine. The finger stuff is rubbish IMO. I think their eldest daughter does look a lot like Obama`s mother but who knows.

I agree with TB about BO being Moslem. Judge Jeanine concluded this about it not long ago.

Will stick this one here as we were talking about Uri and his spoons the other day on the other thread:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4144810/Uri-Geller-told-Theresa-d-PM-two-years-ago.html

Uri Geller claimed today that he told Theresa May she would be Prime Minister two years ago when he showed her how to bend spoons in his garage.

I just don't understand how the man has built such an enduring career and great wealth off the back of a not particularly impressive party trick that he did back in the seventies. Likewise Bob Geldof has parlayed having one hit into becoming some kind of toxic omnipresence. By these standards, the guy out of Brotherhood of Man should be running the World Bank by now, or something.

You've got to hand Uri some credit and a few spoons for making his career last so long.

Bob Geldof did have a few hits, other than with BandAid.

Now which Brotherhood of Man guy do you mean. The one who did the cringeworthy Save Your Kisses For Me or one from the original group - goodness knows why they used the same name.

Apologies for the vision of ugliness at the beginning.

Those clothes must have been really something in colour.

I definitely meant the "Kippers For Tea" guy. I didn't even know there was another one....

You obviously are not of the same "certain age" as me.

You might have heard of Tony Burrows who was in the original group as well as loads of others.

This was the second group's attempt to gain another hit with a very similar sounding song to SYKFM.

Uri Geller has gained massive wealth and some of his contacts are indeed suspicious.  He supposedly divined for oil charging £1,000,000 a time and supposedly is connected to the CIA and Mossad.  He was in the army and was a male model when younger.

I agree about Bob Geldolf - how has he amassed so much wealth and notoriety via one hit single with the Boomtown Rats and organising a big concert.  I don`t get it.

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I agree about Bob Geldolf - how has he amassed so much wealth and notoriety via one hit single with the Boomtown Rats and organising a big concert.  I don`t get it.[/quote]




Erm .....................ever wondered what 'Band Aid' really meant?