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Post  Andrew Thu 30 Apr 2015, 8:15 pm

Does anyone think that the media are deliberately building the Mc's up to then ultimately knock them down in spectacular fashion...

A big game being played. The media are certainly good at that...
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Post  costello Thu 30 Apr 2015, 8:23 pm

Andrew wrote:Does anyone think that the media are deliberately building the Mc's up to then ultimately knock them down in spectacular fashion...

A big game being played. The media are certainly good at that...
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You could have something there Andrew. From hearing the bad news on Tuesday, and now that the dust has settled, I would say the McCanns are not in a good place at all.
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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 30 Apr 2015, 8:27 pm

I honestly don't know what to think Andrew, but that tweet from Sonia Poulton that the media's attitude toward the M's has changed in the last six months is odd to me.

TM have done nothing in the last six months that they haven't done in the last eight years, have they?

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Post  costello Thu 30 Apr 2015, 8:44 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:I honestly don't know what to think Andrew, but that tweet from Sonia Poulton that the media's attitude toward the M's has changed in the last six months is odd to me.

TM have done nothing in the last six months that they haven't done in the last eight years, have they


No but Sonia Poulton started her documentary six months ago. Hopefully the tides are turning, and I feel by the way Sonia is talking she must know something.
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Post  Poppy Thu 30 Apr 2015, 8:52 pm

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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 8:58 pm

Poppy wrote:How do you donate if you don't have a paypal account?

You dont need a paypal account on this one http://www.gofundme.com/Legal-DefencePJGA Click on donate now, you can pay by card


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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 8:58 pm

costello wrote:
TheTruthWillOut wrote:I honestly don't know what to think Andrew, but that tweet from Sonia Poulton that the media's attitude toward the M's has changed in the last six months is odd to me.TM have done nothing in the last six months that they haven't done in the last eight years, have they


No but Sonia Poulton started her documentary six months ago. Hopefully the tides are turning, and I feel by the way Sonia is talking she must know something.

The tweet I saw didn't refer to the media, she seemed to be talking about people in general, that their attitude has changed and the flood gates are about to open.

May be it's because the media have started allowing comments on their pages instead of the usual "comments have been disabled" and some people who were sitting on the fence regarding the McCanns are now having their eyes opened that there is more to the "disappearance" of Madeleine that hasn't been allowed to be discussed before.

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Post  Andrew Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:03 pm

From speaking to various people from all walks of life over the last couple of days, then the general perception is they are absolutely sick of the pair now. Greed and probably guilty. 

That is all down to the media.

Like I say, a game being played.
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Post  Mo Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:16 pm

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Post  Poppy Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:20 pm

Markus 2 wrote:
Poppy wrote:How do you donate if you don't have a paypal account?

You dont need a paypal account on this one http://www.gofundme.com/Legal-DefencePJGA Click on donate now, you can pay by card

Thank you.

Just to add how do I know it's safe? it doesn't have a little padlock on it that lets people know is secure.
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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:33 pm

Poppy wrote:
Markus 2 wrote:
Poppy wrote:How do you donate if you don't have a paypal account?

You dont need a paypal account on this one http://www.gofundme.com/Legal-DefencePJGA Click on donate now, you can pay by card

Thank you.

Just to add how do I know it's safe? it doesn't have a little padlock on it that lets people know is secure.

I cant answer that, it has  being going for some time , official site as far as I can tell.I have just donated, as have 180 odd in one day, sure its O.k


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Post  candyfloss Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:36 pm

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It was created yesterday from what I gather from twitter and  as far as I know look at the date at the bottom.

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Post  Poppy Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:43 pm

Markus 2 wrote:
Poppy wrote:
Markus 2 wrote:
Poppy wrote:How do you donate if you don't have a paypal account?

You dont need a paypal account on this one http://www.gofundme.com/Legal-DefencePJGA Click on donate now, you can pay by card

Thank you.

Just to add how do I know it's safe? it doesn't have a little padlock on it that lets people know is secure.

I cant answer that, it has  being going for some time , official site as far as I can tell.I have just donated, as have 180 odd in one day sure, its O.k

Cheers, I'll wait a couple of days and if nobody complains of anything dodgy happening with there bank account I shall make a donation to the great man Dr Amaral.
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Post  Bampots Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:50 pm

You do not need PayPal on the official link. On the PJ thread on this site, just go and process a donation if you at any time have a doubt abort said donation, but cards and PayPal are accepted. Go on.....


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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:56 pm

Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:
costello wrote:
TheTruthWillOut wrote:I honestly don't know what to think Andrew, but that tweet from Sonia Poulton that the media's attitude toward the M's has changed in the last six months is odd to me.TM have done nothing in the last six months that they haven't done in the last eight years, have they


No but Sonia Poulton started her documentary six months ago. Hopefully the tides are turning, and I feel by the way Sonia is talking she must know something.

The tweet I saw didn't refer to the media, she seemed to be talking about people in general, that their attitude has changed and the flood gates are about to open.

May be it's because the media have started allowing comments on their pages instead of the usual "comments have been disabled" and some people who were sitting on the fence regarding the McCanns are now having their eyes opened that there is more to the "disappearance" of Madeleine that hasn't been allowed to be discussed before.

She elaborated, DFM:

Jean Aked ‏@JeanAked  6h6 hours ago
@real_zm_ @SoniaPoulton A lot of people work hard to raise awareness and voice concerns so the number of people questioning keeps growing.

@JeanAked @real_zm_ agree with both of you. I was more reflecting on media colleagues who have done a 360 since I started.

I think she meant to say 180. I'd love to know who the media colleagues are and what it is that has changed their minds in a six month period about TM. scratch

They were posted in the Sonia Poulton thread by Candyfloss earlier.
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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:58 pm

Poppy wrote:
Markus 2 wrote:
Poppy wrote:
Markus 2 wrote:
Poppy wrote:How do you donate if you don't have a paypal account?

You dont need a paypal account on this one http://www.gofundme.com/Legal-DefencePJGA Click on donate now, you can pay by card

Thank you.

Just to add how do I know it's safe? it doesn't have a little padlock on it that lets people know is secure.

I cant answer that, it has  being going for some time , official site as far as I can tell.I have just donated, as have 180 odd in one day sure, its O.k

Cheers, I'll wait a couple of days and if nobody complains of anything dodgy happening with there bank account I shall make a donation to the great man Dr Amaral.

It does say on the donation page -

This person will receive your donation directly.
All payments are final and cannot be refunded.
Only give to people you know and trust.


As you said, there is no padlock shown which is usually on secure websites.  The actual website owners are in California, USA.

Unless someone can get verification from GA that the person operating the website is personally known by someone on one of the forums or Facebook I feel reluctant to use a credit/debit card on it.

I'd rather open a PayPal account just for making a one off payment on the official website.

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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 10:02 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:
Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:
costello wrote:
TheTruthWillOut wrote:I honestly don't know what to think Andrew, but that tweet from Sonia Poulton that the media's attitude toward the M's has changed in the last six months is odd to me.TM have done nothing in the last six months that they haven't done in the last eight years, have they


No but Sonia Poulton started her documentary six months ago. Hopefully the tides are turning, and I feel by the way Sonia is talking she must know something.

The tweet I saw didn't refer to the media, she seemed to be talking about people in general, that their attitude has changed and the flood gates are about to open.

May be it's because the media have started allowing comments on their pages instead of the usual "comments have been disabled" and some people who were sitting on the fence regarding the McCanns are now having their eyes opened that there is more to the "disappearance" of Madeleine that hasn't been allowed to be discussed before.

She elaborated, DFM:

Jean Aked ‏@JeanAked  6h6 hours ago
@real_zm_ @SoniaPoulton A lot of people work hard to raise awareness and voice concerns so the number of people questioning keeps growing.

@JeanAked @real_zm_ agree with both of you. I was more reflecting on media colleagues who have done a 360 since I started.

I think she meant to say 180. I'd love to know who the media colleagues are and what it is that has changed their minds in a six month period about TM. scratch

They were posted in the Sonia Poulton thread by Candyfloss earlier.

Okey, dokey, I haven't checked on that thread for a while. It's hard trying to keep up with everything.

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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 10:05 pm

I'm pretty certain if you take the NIB and IBAN numbers into your own bank, they should be able to arrange a transfer over the counter.

http://www.barclays.co.uk/P1242593395280 - shows you how Barclays does it, other banks will be the same.

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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 10:17 pm

Resistor wrote:I'm pretty certain if you take the NIB and IBAN numbers into your own bank, they should be able to arrange a transfer over the counter.

http://www.barclays.co.uk/P1242593395280 - shows you how Barclays does it, other banks will be the same.

Thanks for that. I'm a Barclays customer so will look at doing it that way.

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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 10:23 pm

If you google Trial verdict in McCann v Amaral or vice versa nothing new comes up?

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Post  Dee Coy Thu 30 Apr 2015, 10:24 pm

Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:
Resistor wrote:I'm pretty certain if you take the NIB and IBAN numbers into your own bank, they should be able to arrange a transfer over the counter.

http://www.barclays.co.uk/P1242593395280 - shows you how Barclays does it, other banks will be the same.

Thanks for that.  I'm a Barclays customer so will look at doing it that way.

Be careful if sending a foreign transfer via a UK bank. There is usually a charge, typically around £25, regardless of the amount that is being sent. All those £25s would be far better off in Goncalo's pocket.

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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 10:32 pm

A couple of pictures on images of  Leanne Baulch who supposedly started  the fund wonder who she is.Twitter comes up with account suspended.

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Post  Freedom Thu 30 Apr 2015, 10:40 pm

She's on Facebook and is a member of the newish CMoMM group, if that's any help which it probably isn't!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/
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Post  Guest Thu 30 Apr 2015, 10:45 pm

Freedom wrote:She's on Facebook and is a member of the newish CMoMM group, if that's any help which it probably isn't!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/

Looks like she was with  B Leyland on an issue. So hopefully all is well. Leanne Baulch Mr Mitchell, now I would first likely to say how absolutely disgusted I and thousands are of your total lack of decency.

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