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Re: BREAKING NEWS - Goncalo loses libel/damages trial and must pay damages
costello wrote:It is now on the BBC news homepage, stating Goncalo Amaral has to pay £357.000 plus in excess of £70.000 interest.
Interest !! On what - on the McC's deliberately dragging out this trial !
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candyfloss wrote:Home > Society > Former PJ inspector Gonçalo Amaral ordered to pay 500,000 euros to the McCann couple
[ltr]Ex-inspetor da PJ Gonçalo Amaral condenado a pagar 500 mil euros ao casal McCann[/ltr]
Former inspector Gonçalo Amaral PJ ordered to pay 500,000 euros to the McCann couple
http://expresso.sapo.pt/ex-inspetor-da-pj-goncalo-amaral-condenado-a-pagar-500-mil-euros-ao-casal-mccann=f922111#ixzz3Ycf7sUKk
I can't copy and paste the translation from above link.......
it is coming out with Portuguese mixed in.
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Amaral legal team have not been informed of the court's reported decision
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well if these reported awards are paid to the McCanns they will have the money to hire some decent detectives with relevant CVs............
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I've just pinched this post off the Justice Forum (not sure if I'm allowed to do that, Admin please delete if not allowed) -
Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #1606 on: Today at 05:30:01 PM »http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/cm_ao_minuto/detalhe/ex_inspetor_da_pj_goncalo_amaral_condenado_a_pagar_500_mil_euros_ao_casal_mccann.html
The former inspector of the Judicial Police (PJ) Gonçalo Amaral was ordered to pay 500,000 euros to the parents of Madeleine McCann, for damage caused by the publication of a book entitled 'Maddie: The Truth of the Lie', said Tuesday the agency Lusa the lawyer of British couple.
The civil court sentenced Gonçalo Amaral "payable to each of the first [Kate McCann and McCann Gearald] the indemnity amount of 250 thousand euros plus default interest at the legal rate of interest civilians, since January 5, 2010, until full payment ". Interest for late payment, according to the lawyer of the McCanns, are located at the moment in 106,000 euros.In addition to this payment, the court also ordered the ban on the sale and new editions of the book, even prohibiting new editions of the DVD, as well as the sale of the book's copyright and DVD. This process creeps in court for more than five years, with successive postponements of trial sessions and an attempted extrajudicial settlement between the parties, which was never realized
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I particularly noted the sentence "Interest for late payment, according to the lawyer of the McCanns, are located at the momentn in 106,000euros."
Why is GA been asked to pay "late payment" interest when the case hadn't even been resolved or the Judge hasn't made a decision???
This all looks to me like a very nasty hoax, I hope I'm right in saying that.
ETA: the link doesn't work, as I suspect as there are letters missed out of several words on the link that it is a hoax.
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« Reply #1606 on: Today at 05:30:01 PM »http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/cm_ao_minuto/detalhe/ex_inspetor_da_pj_goncalo_amaral_condenado_a_pagar_500_mil_euros_ao_casal_mccann.html
The former inspector of the Judicial Police (PJ) Gonçalo Amaral was ordered to pay 500,000 euros to the parents of Madeleine McCann, for damage caused by the publication of a book entitled 'Maddie: The Truth of the Lie', said Tuesday the agency Lusa the lawyer of British couple.
The civil court sentenced Gonçalo Amaral "payable to each of the first [Kate McCann and McCann Gearald] the indemnity amount of 250 thousand euros plus default interest at the legal rate of interest civilians, since January 5, 2010, until full payment ". Interest for late payment, according to the lawyer of the McCanns, are located at the moment in 106,000 euros.In addition to this payment, the court also ordered the ban on the sale and new editions of the book, even prohibiting new editions of the DVD, as well as the sale of the book's copyright and DVD. This process creeps in court for more than five years, with successive postponements of trial sessions and an attempted extrajudicial settlement between the parties, which was never realized
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I particularly noted the sentence "Interest for late payment, according to the lawyer of the McCanns, are located at the momentn in 106,000euros."
Why is GA been asked to pay "late payment" interest when the case hadn't even been resolved or the Judge hasn't made a decision???
This all looks to me like a very nasty hoax, I hope I'm right in saying that.
ETA: the link doesn't work, as I suspect as there are letters missed out of several words on the link that it is a hoax.
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Or they have sat or it! Only a thought
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candyfloss wrote:candyfloss wrote:Home > Society > Former PJ inspector Gonçalo Amaral ordered to pay 500,000 euros to the McCann couple
[ltr]Ex-inspetor da PJ Gonçalo Amaral condenado a pagar 500 mil euros ao casal McCann[/ltr]
Former inspector Gonçalo Amaral PJ ordered to pay 500,000 euros to the McCann couple
http://expresso.sapo.pt/ex-inspetor-da-pj-goncalo-amaral-condenado-a-pagar-500-mil-euros-ao-casal-mccann=f922111#ixzz3Ycf7sUKk
I can't copy and paste the translation from above link.......
it is coming out with Portuguese mixed in.
Zora @real_zm_ 16 mins16 minutes ago
Amaral legal team have not been informed of the court's reported decision#mccann http://m.expresso.sapo.pt/inicio/modal/destaques/artigo/922116 …
Here is what I got
Court sentenced former inspector of the Judicial Police to pay half a million euros to the parents of Madeleine McCann . Lawyer Gonçalo Amaral ensures that knows nothing .
Read more : http://expresso.sapo.pt/caso-maddie-goncalo-amaral-diz-nao-ter-sido-notificado-da-decisao-do-tribunal=f922116#ixzz3YcZ0FrUs
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - Goncalo loses libel/damages trial and must pay damages
Sonia Poulton @SoniaPoulton 3 mins3 minutes ago
So Gonçalo Amaral's lawyers were not notified about a decision but Sky and BBC were....? Odd behaviour.#McCann
Isabelle McFadden @QUEENdePORTUGAL 3 mins3 minutes ago
ASTRO assures me VIA email, that as of 1 hour ago, Amaral has NOT received such verdict.#mccann Shameful!!! Lusa will hear from me.
So Gonçalo Amaral's lawyers were not notified about a decision but Sky and BBC were....? Odd behaviour.
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ASTRO assures me VIA email, that as of 1 hour ago, Amaral has NOT received such verdict.
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If it is some sort of hoax, or even inaccurate reporting, it has been well played by the McCanns, because even if the truth is nowhere near this, the UK MSM have headlined the misleading article and as such put in peoples minds that the Mc's won...even if it turns out that Snr Amaral was in fact to pay them 50p, the lie, once again, will have overtaken the truth
And of course if this is true, then it is a sad day for justice, but I cannot reconcile the Judge's written findings with an award of this size..it all just seems really weird...Okay, just another weird thing this whole saga
And of course if this is true, then it is a sad day for justice, but I cannot reconcile the Judge's written findings with an award of this size..it all just seems really weird...Okay, just another weird thing this whole saga
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Lisbon court orders McCanns be paid €500,000 in damages by former PJ detective
by Brendan de Beer, in News · 28-04-2015 17:17:00 ·
A Lisbon Civil Court on Tuesday issued a ruling in which former PJ police detective Gonçalo Amaral is to pay the parents of missing British toddler Madeleine McCann a sum of 250,000 euros each plus a large sum in interest. Amaral can still challenge the decision with the Lisbon Appeal Court.
Calculations provided by the McCanns' legal team currently place the total amount of interest at €106,246. This interest plus damages amount to just under half the €1.2 million requested by Kate and Gerry McCann at the start of legal proceedings more than five years ago.
The decision comes five days before what will be marking of the eighth year of Madeleine’s disappearance from the holiday apartment she had been staying in with her parents in Praia da Luz.
In its ruling, the court also prohibited the sale of the book written by Amaral with regards to Madeleine’s disappearance. In the book, Amaral ruled out the widespread belief that she had been abducted. Instead he argued that she had died in an accident in the apartment on 3 May 2007.
The book’s publisher has also been banned from releasing any new editions and has to hand over all unsold copies.
Isabel Duarte, the lawyer acting on behalf of the McCanns, opted not to comment on the decision.
In the 52-page document, seen by The Portugal News shortly after the ruling was released, repeated references are made to the fact that the date of the release of Amaral’s book (24 July 2008), took place only three days after the Portuguese Attorney-General’s office decided to shelve the case.
Isabel Duarte had argued that Amaral used privileged information in the book, with the court ruling that Amaral's freedom of expression was limited by his position as a former police detective and lead investigator in the case.
But the court also found that it was not proven that the allegations made in the book “in any way contributed to the hindering of the course of the investigation into the disappearance of the minor Madeleine McCann.”
The court further rejected libel claims made by Kate and Gerry on behalf Madeleine and her twin siblings Sean and Amelie.
In comments to Portuguese newspaper Expresso on Tuesday evening, Miguel Cruz Rodrigues, legal counsel for Gonçalo Amaral, said he knew nothing of the court’s ruling.
“I have not yet been notified by the court”, he was quoted as saying, adding that he found it “very strange” that only one of the parties was aware of the verdict.
He opted not to comment further until he had seen the actual judgment.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/lisbon-court-orders-mccanns-be-paid-500000-in-damages-by-former-pj-detective/34612
by Brendan de Beer, in News · 28-04-2015 17:17:00 ·
A Lisbon Civil Court on Tuesday issued a ruling in which former PJ police detective Gonçalo Amaral is to pay the parents of missing British toddler Madeleine McCann a sum of 250,000 euros each plus a large sum in interest. Amaral can still challenge the decision with the Lisbon Appeal Court.
Calculations provided by the McCanns' legal team currently place the total amount of interest at €106,246. This interest plus damages amount to just under half the €1.2 million requested by Kate and Gerry McCann at the start of legal proceedings more than five years ago.
The decision comes five days before what will be marking of the eighth year of Madeleine’s disappearance from the holiday apartment she had been staying in with her parents in Praia da Luz.
In its ruling, the court also prohibited the sale of the book written by Amaral with regards to Madeleine’s disappearance. In the book, Amaral ruled out the widespread belief that she had been abducted. Instead he argued that she had died in an accident in the apartment on 3 May 2007.
The book’s publisher has also been banned from releasing any new editions and has to hand over all unsold copies.
Isabel Duarte, the lawyer acting on behalf of the McCanns, opted not to comment on the decision.
In the 52-page document, seen by The Portugal News shortly after the ruling was released, repeated references are made to the fact that the date of the release of Amaral’s book (24 July 2008), took place only three days after the Portuguese Attorney-General’s office decided to shelve the case.
Isabel Duarte had argued that Amaral used privileged information in the book, with the court ruling that Amaral's freedom of expression was limited by his position as a former police detective and lead investigator in the case.
But the court also found that it was not proven that the allegations made in the book “in any way contributed to the hindering of the course of the investigation into the disappearance of the minor Madeleine McCann.”
The court further rejected libel claims made by Kate and Gerry on behalf Madeleine and her twin siblings Sean and Amelie.
In comments to Portuguese newspaper Expresso on Tuesday evening, Miguel Cruz Rodrigues, legal counsel for Gonçalo Amaral, said he knew nothing of the court’s ruling.
“I have not yet been notified by the court”, he was quoted as saying, adding that he found it “very strange” that only one of the parties was aware of the verdict.
He opted not to comment further until he had seen the actual judgment.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/lisbon-court-orders-mccanns-be-paid-500000-in-damages-by-former-pj-detective/34612
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So who was it who said the Portuguese courts do not pay out like the English courts? Half a million seems like the sums paid out here in libel trials. So was this a libel trial after all? How does the book banning fit into this, how can the judge rule the no new editions can be sold, I am amazed at this
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If it were some sort of sick joke, a hoax, surely the McC's would have denied it by now? Seems to have been all over the news
and for such a vociferous, self-interested couple to stay quiet doesn't bode well on my hope of dreadful misreporting.
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candyfloss wrote:So who was it who said the Portuguese courts do not pay out like the English courts? Half a million seems like the sums paid out here in libel trials. So was this a libel trial after all? How does the book banning fit into this, how can the judge rule the no new editions can be sold, I am amazed at this
I am perplexed about the book re banning Candyfloss. This is a civil case, right? What power do the civil courts have to ban a book?
Never mind the other issues here...
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8 mins ago the Official Find Madeleine FB page was reporting that they have updated their French poster. Zilch about the trial.
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TheTruthWillOut wrote:candyfloss wrote:So who was it who said the Portuguese courts do not pay out like the English courts? Half a million seems like the sums paid out here in libel trials. So was this a libel trial after all? How does the book banning fit into this, how can the judge rule the no new editions can be sold, I am amazed at this
I am perplexed about the book re banning Candyfloss. This is a civil case, right? What power do the civil courts have to ban a book?
Never mind the other issues here...
I think we`re going to have to wait until Goncalo reports himself on the matter - at the moment it`s seeming more and more like an April fool`s joke.
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Just reading this tweet, and it struck me that in the article just posted the McCanns lawyer declined to comment. Now that has to be a first Isabel Duarte would surely be shouting this from the rooftops.... Why no comment from her.
jimuck mac @jimuckmac 4 mins4 minutes ago
@mariaccnr ..If Mr Amarals lawyer has not been notified of decision then there has been no decision made. #McCann
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I've been trying to comment but end up deleting because of anger.
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Quote Portugal news..
Isabel Duarte, the lawyer acting on behalf of the McCanns, opted not to comment on the decision.
Why not you won your case, surely you would comment and say how delighted you were and justice has been done. Why no comment Isabel.?
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dogs don't lie wrote:I've been trying to comment but end up deleting because of anger.
ddl, I feel so much anger, it is a preposterous situation, and I'm making the most inane comments here. You go ahead, let fly.
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Indeed, I think the whole thing is looking shiftier by the minute
Definitely not like the McCanns or their paid spokespersons to keep quiet when things are in their favour...I think something is afoot here
Definitely not like the McCanns or their paid spokespersons to keep quiet when things are in their favour...I think something is afoot here
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Hope your instinct is right here Susible it is so demoralising.
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Isabelle McFadden @QUEENdePORTUGAL 1 min1 minute ago
Have just heard back from Astro. It is TRUE details are unclear. Lawyer still NOT contacted. Therefore Cannot make comment. SHAMEFUL#mccann
Have just heard back from Astro. It is TRUE details are unclear. Lawyer still NOT contacted. Therefore Cannot make comment. SHAMEFUL
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It is very demoralising Bampots, but if the written judgement was anything to go by, then there's no way these amounts can be accurate. That along with the alleged re-banning of the book, which I didn't even think was possible via that court, it just doesn't make sense
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Next door has mentioned GA knows of the decision of the court, fingers typing more words I never use, I really need to lie down in a dark room, Freedom... any space in yours?
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This link is in Portuguese and claims Gonçalo now knows ....any one have a read and confirm contents
http://m.expresso.sapo.pt/inicio/modal/destaques/artigo/922116
http://m.expresso.sapo.pt/inicio/modal/destaques/artigo/922116
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dogs don't lie wrote:Next door has mentioned GA knows of the decision of the court, fingers typing more words I never use, I really need to lie down in a dark room, Freedom... any space in yours?
Someone on twitter said it is wrong and say he has NOT heard. The tweet I just posted backs that up. Maybe he has heard through the papers but not from his solicitor who still does not have info according to some reports.
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