Re:£11 Million spent- is this the end.

costello Wed 02 Sep 2015, 7:17 pm

This case is so complex I would agree with that, not sure if Operation Grange will come up trumps. I put my faith in Dr. Amaral, and if he believes we will eventually know the truth then that is good enough for me. My glass remains half full.

Châtelaine Wed 02 Sep 2015, 7:21 pm

Oh, yes, mine too ...
Half FULL, I mean ;-)

Cristobell Wed 02 Sep 2015, 7:42 pm

costello wrote:This case is so complex I would agree with that, not sure if Operation Grange will come up trumps. I put my faith in Dr. Amaral, and if he believes we will eventually know the truth then that is good enough for me. My glass remains half full.

My glass remains half full with room for a splash of vodka Wink

costello Wed 02 Sep 2015, 7:54 pm

Cristobell wrote:
costello wrote:This case is so complex I would agree with that, not sure if Operation Grange will come up trumps. I put my faith in Dr. Amaral, and if he believes we will eventually know the truth then that is good enough for me. My glass remains half full.

My glass remains half full with room for a splash of vodka

Good on you girl, hopefully we can all get a bit merry soon. Great to see you on the board again Cristobell.

Hellsbells Wed 02 Sep 2015, 8:11 pm

It doesn't make sense for someone outside the investigation to call for closing it when presumably he doesn't know exactly what's going on.
Sounds like hot air to me.

costello Wed 02 Sep 2015, 8:16 pm

Hellsbells wrote:It doesn't make sense for someone outside the investigation to call for closing it when presumably he doesn't know exactly what's going on.
Sounds like hot air to me.

Hi Hellsbells yes I have to agree with you there.

Hellsbells Wed 02 Sep 2015, 8:21 pm

Just seen an update in the mirror online.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581

Madeleine McCann's parents ready to continue search if police end investigation into her disappearance.

BUT IT ALSO SAYS

Sources in Portugal today insisted there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shelved in the short or medium term.

Hellsbells Wed 02 Sep 2015, 8:26 pm

This bit is funny. Great research.

He told how former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 37, of Rothley, Leics ...

Andrew Wed 02 Sep 2015, 8:28 pm

Hellsbells wrote:Just seen an update in the mirror online.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581

Madeleine McCann's parents ready to continue search if police end investigation into her disappearance.

BUT IT ALSO SAYS

Sources in Portugal today insisted there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shelved in the short or medium term.

McChum Tracey can't even get there ages right...

He told how former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 37, of Rothley, Leics, had moved money from the publicly-backed Find Maddie Fund into a special account in anticipation of having to finance the hunt for their daughter themselves.

... I'm sure the Mc's have got a few of those 'special' accounts.

Andrew Wed 02 Sep 2015, 8:33 pm

This is an update on the update.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-british-police-investigation-6370080

costello Wed 02 Sep 2015, 8:40 pm

Hellsbells wrote:Just seen an update in the mirror online.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581

Madeleine McCann's parents ready to continue search if police end investigation into her disappearance.

BUT IT ALSO SAYS

Sources in Portugal today insisted there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shelved in the short or medium term.

I think the first part just might refer to the McCann's funding the investigation with Kate's one million from her book deal. Personally I don't believe a word of it. However I do put my faith in the PJ.

dogs don't lie Wed 02 Sep 2015, 8:52 pm

Does anyone think this is just to keep public and papers happy for another while?

Guinea Pig Wed 02 Sep 2015, 9:07 pm

Hellsbells wrote:This bit is funny. Great research.

He told how former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 37, of Rothley, Leics ...

That's probably just a typo and should read 47.

costello Wed 02 Sep 2015, 9:14 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Does anyone think this is just to keep public and papers happy for another while?

Could be DDL, for what it is worth I think Dr. Amaral's appeal is beginning to unnerve a few people. Just my thoughts.

Mimi Wed 02 Sep 2015, 9:16 pm

Just wondering if this latest MSM splash has Rupi baby & his red haired missy at the back of all this. They have got away with the phone hacking scandal and I assume still hold power over parliamentarians (and goodness knows who else). Missy is none too loyal by the sound of it and can c**p on people, even her friends. She could well turn the tables on the McCanns just like she did with Sara Payne.

"And to Sara Payne: befriended by Brooks in her campaign to change the law about publication of the home addresses of sex offenders; investigated by her paper on the false suspicion that she was having an affair with a detective."

From last year

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/25/-sp-phone-hacking-trial-rebekah-brooks-rupert-murdoch

costello Wed 02 Sep 2015, 9:30 pm

Mimi wrote:Just wondering if this latest MSM splash has Rupi baby & his red haired missy at the back of all this. They have got away with the phone hacking scandal and I assume still hold power over parliamentarians (and goodness knows who else). Missy is none too loyal by the sound of it and can c**p on people, even her friends. She could well turn the tables on the McCanns just like she did with Sara Payne.

"And to Sara Payne: befriended by Brooks in her campaign to change the law about publication of the home addresses of sex offenders; investigated by her paper on the false suspicion that she was having an affair with a detective."

From last year

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/25/-sp-phone-hacking-trial-rebekah-brooks-rupert-murdoch

Mimi, I have always thought she would be back for the finale. Not sure here but I actually think the Sun allowing anti McCann comments on their facebook page twice this week is relevant in some way.

Andrew Wed 02 Sep 2015, 9:49 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/602598/Madeleine-McCann-case-not-to-close

Bampots Wed 02 Sep 2015, 9:56 pm

WS
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-cops-say-madeleine-mccann-6370080

PA £11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Madeleine-McCann

Missing: Madeleine McCann would be 12-years-old now

The British investigation into missing Madeleine McCann is still "live" and is not about to be wound down, sources have revealed.
The news comes after ex-Metropolitan Police officer John O'Connor yesterday questioned whether the hunt for the missing child was a good use of resources.
It has been claimed the Scotland Yard operation has already cost the taxpayer £11 million but there have not yet been any arrests.
But well-placed sources in Portugal insisted there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shelved in the short or medium term.
And they said they were expecting to receive a new international letter of request shortly from UK authorities - the second since DCI Nicola Wall took over from previous Operation Grange boss Andy Redwood at the end of last year but the first she will have been involved in preparing.

Rowan Griffiths / Daily Mirror £11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Praia-da-Luz

£11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Praia-da-Luz

Hunt: British and Portuguese police teams search a site on the outskirts of Praia da Luz in June

The regular meetings DCI Redwood held with his Portuguese counterparts in the Algarve city of Faro have been put on hold since the takeover.
Her successor is understood to have asked police in Portugal to put on hold some of the work they were undertaking while she reviewed outstanding requests and the way she wanted to progress in the future.
Responding to grumbles about the cost of Scotland Yard’s probe and fresh claims it should be wound down, the Portuguese source insisted: “Nothing is going to be shelved.
“Co-operation right now between the British and the Portuguese police is at a moment of great synchronisation.”
Portugal’s Attorney General’s Office, which in May confirmed it had so far received five British requests for international cooperation on the Madeleine McCann case including one in January 2015, did not respond to emails today.
But insiders said they were expecting to receive a new request shortly.
The Scotland Yard inquiry is running separately to a Portuguese probe into Madeleine’s May 3 2007 disappearance.

Daily Mirror/Julian Hamilton £11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Madeleine-mccann-british-police-portugal-andy-redwood

£11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Madeleine-mccann-british-police-portugal-andy-redwood

Operation: British police officers arrive at the police station in Faro, Portugal

The Portuguese investigation was reopened in May 2014 at the request of the country’s Policia Judiciaria police force - more than five years after their original probe had been shelved.
The reopening of the probe coincided with news a former employee at the Ocean Club holiday resort where Madeleine disappeared had been identified as a suspect.
Recovering heroin addict Euclides Monteiro, a convicted burglar, died in a tractor accident in 2009.
His widow Luisa Rodrigues was interviewed by Portuguese detectives but insisted he was an innocent man and has been fighting to get authorities to confirm they have now ruled him out as a suspect.
Scotland Yard, tasked with investigating Madeleine’s disappearance after Madeleine’s family made a personal plea to David Cameron in 2011, have come to focus on the theory she was killed during a bungled burglary.

PA £11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Kate-and-Gerry-McCann

£11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Kate-and-Gerry-McCann

Grateful: Kate and Gerry McCann are thankful for the British police's involvement

John O’Connor, ex-head of the Met Police’s Flying Squad said yesterday as it was revealed the hunt for Madeleine has cost British taxpayers almost £11 million: “You can’t keep chasing shadows.
“If there are no firm leads, and by that I mean no substantial operational things like active surveillance on suspects, then I’d have thought they should be considering winding it down now.”
His comments echoed those made in March by Met Police Federation chairman John Tully.
He said at the time: “We no longer have the resources to conduct specialist inquiries all over the world which have nothing to do with London.
“It is surprising to see an inquiry like the McCann investigation ring-fenced.
“I’ve heard a lot of rumblings of discontent about it from lots of sources.”

PA £11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Missing-Madeleine-McCann

£11 Million spent - time to end? - Page 3 Missing-Madeleine-McCann

Tragic: No sign of Maddie has ever been found

A source close to the McCanns was quoted as saying: “Kate and Gerry are eternally grateful to the Metropolitan Police for making Operation Grange possible.
“They are pleased so many officers are still looking for Madeleine.”
In May, Portugal’s Attorney General’s Office revealed: “Since August 2012, the Public Prosecution Service of Portimao has received five British requests for international cooperation in criminal matters, the last of which has been received on January 2015.
“Three of these requests have been already executed and their pieces of execution were returned to the requesting authorities. The execution of two of them is still pending.
The Prosecutor General’s Office does not provide information on the content of the requests presented by the British authorities.”

So a new letter to be submitted....god you have to kiss a lot of frogs!

Bampots Wed 02 Sep 2015, 10:08 pm

Re: £11M ON MADDIE HUNT .. AND STILL NO CLUE

bb1 Today at 9:06 pm

Bad news for the hate squad:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-cops-say-madeleine-mccann-6370080

British cops say Madeleine McCann investigation "still live" despite calls for it to be wound down
20:10, 2 SEPTEMBER 2015 UPDATED 20:23, 2 SEPTEMBER 2015
BY GERARD COUZENS
Sources reveal police are still determined despite the case costing UK taxpayers £11 million.................

It's the article posted above,just in the world of JATYK2,they use the article to suggest that we (the haters!) don't want the investigation to continue and slap and ROLF to each other............they know of course the opposite is true and that is what really scares them!

TheTruthWillOut Wed 02 Sep 2015, 10:16 pm

I can't decide whether this is another desperate attempt by the press to get answers from OG/Portugal or a clever ruse by OG via the press to show the case is still very much active (without breaking their "no running commentary" vow).

Or even a TM/RB "we're back" warning.... lol!

Mimi Wed 02 Sep 2015, 10:28 pm

Parents ready to continue

Where are the violins? This poor, poor couple having to set money aside to look for their daughter because the howible policemen couldn`t find her. Dontcha heart just go out to them. Such poor, poor victims - Ah well, just like charities prey on peoples` fears and guilt - it`ll bring you in tons more lolly. That`s the way to do it.

____________________________
"The parents of Madeleine McCann are preparing for the police probe into their daughter’s disappearance to be shelved, their spokesman said today.

Kate and Gerry McCann continue to pump thousands of pounds into a special fund for use when the official investigation, codenamed Operation Grange and launched more than four years ago, finally ends.

Family spokesperson Clarence Mitchell said today: “They realise it cannot go on forever.”

He added: “Kate and Gerry remain incredibly grateful to the Met Police for their continuing work and effort and are grateful to everyone who continues to make Operation Grange possible.

“The Government and police make the decision about funding, it is not Kate and Gerry’s role.”

He told how former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 37, of Rothley, Leics, had moved money from the publicly-backed Find Maddie Fund into a special account in anticipation of having to finance the hunt for their daughter themselves. Aw ... poor loves.

Mr Mitchell said: “In a common sense and practical move, they have kept some money back from the Find Madeleine Fund in case it is needed for an ongoing search.”

A source close to the family said: “Kate and Gerry firmly believe Madeleine could still be alive and when the police investigation ends, they have vowed to continue looking for her." Yep - right on cue

______________________________________
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581

gbwales Wed 02 Sep 2015, 10:57 pm

Always worth bearing in mind, of course, that any TM, Clarence, MSM wishful thinking and/or nudging about the closure of Operation Grange has bugger all to do with the Portuguese investigation.
Close down Grange if you have to, but you can't stop the Portuguese. They will surely always be the best hope if past history is anything to go by,

Of course we have no idea where that is currently leading, but even if it is shelved again at some point in the future we now know that with that would come further case files.

TM and Co can do all they want to shut everything down, but so much has changed in media and social media since 2007 - they simply don't have the control they initially believed they had.

AndyB Thu 03 Sep 2015, 7:29 am

Mimi wrote:
He told how former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 37, of Rothley, Leics, had moved money from the publicly-backed Find Maddie Fund into a special account in anticipation of having to finance the hunt for their daughter themselves.

I don't understand. Why do they need to do this? Why can't they finance the hunt directly from the fund's bank account? What's so special about this "special account"?

PMR Thu 03 Sep 2015, 7:41 am

I'd picked up on that as well. If one were of a cynical disposition one might think cooking the books , or that the fund is being used for all sorts and money needs to be kept separate , or it just sounds newsworthy

Andrew Thu 03 Sep 2015, 7:45 am

The Mail's updated version.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3220493/Scotland-Yard-detectives-investigating-disappearance-Madeleine-McCann-stayed-200-NIGHT-hotels-Portugal.html

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