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Post  Freedom on Fri 04 Sep 2015, 9:13 am

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Post  Rosa canina on Fri 04 Sep 2015, 9:41 am

Many thanks, Freedom.
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Post  Andrew on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 1:31 pm

Cleaning up the crime scene

Disposing the body

Perverting the course of justice

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/killer-who-dumped-body-girlfriends-6506657

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Post  Guest on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 2:57 pm

It's absolutely horrendous what has been done to Mr Tomlinson who was killed and his body thrown into a wheelie bin, and the bin was set on fire trying to conceal the body.  Kearney was given a life sentence, 6 years, FFS, it should have been 60 years -

Nathan Kearney, 34, was this week given a life sentence after he was found guilty of the manslaughter of Bill Tomlinson, reports the Loughborough Echo .

He had already pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice by destroying or concealing evidence.

Kearney, of Braunstone, will serve a minimum of six years and nine months before being eligible for parole.


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Although it does show what lengths people will go to to avoid being caught after they've done a crime, not that I'm alluding to anything I would add.

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Post  Andrew on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 3:28 pm

Yeah exactly. What some people will do to try and get away with it.

Agreed - 6 years is a p!ss take.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 3:29 pm

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Post  Guest on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 3:51 pm

Freedom wrote:I had wondered what the motive was. There's more information here.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Judge-directs-Leicester-jury-convict-autistic-man/story-27639068-detail/story.html

Absolutely totally shocking, they knew what they were doing, someone with only a few brain cells between their ears would know that slitting someone's throat is killing someone and they're not likely to survive the ordeal.

I looked up the procedure to write to the "establishment" to protest against such a low sentence (6 years) but apparently "manslaughter" doesn't seem to come under their remit of having the sentence overturned, it has to be classed as murder.

So it looks, to me, like many "murders" are now being classed as "manslaughter" as there are not enough prison places to house people for a proper murder conviction for say 20 or 30 years.

How can you say that slitting someone's throat and setting the body alight is "manslaughter" not "murder".


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Here's another one.....

Post  Guest on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 4:22 pm

They just keep coming .....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247542/Mother-four-lied-Primark-security-guard-snatching-nine-month-old-daughter-breastfeeding-faces-jail.html#comments

The comments are interesting to read, not many sympathising with her, I liked this one in particular -

What a despicable excuse for a Mother!

and

Well at the time this story was originally published, the less gullible amongst us all knew she had fabricated the whole thing! What did she think was going to happen; perhaps a compensation claim for the "excruciating pain she suffered?!?!

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Post  Andrew on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 4:40 pm

Maybe she wouldn't of tried this stunt if the Mccann farce didn't see the light of day.

Shannon Matthews, I would wager, wouldn't of done either.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 4:46 pm

I'm surprised about the charge of perverting the course of public justice - wouldn't wasting police time have been more relevant?

To be fair (as I always try to be!) she sounds as if she may have mental health issues.
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Post  Châtelaine on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 7:41 pm

Slightly off topic: I don't know if anyone got this today, but there has been a new development in identifying [criminal] people. After the fingerprints and then DNA it is now the "cloud" of bacteria you carry and lose in the air. Although we all carry more or less the same types of bacteria, once with us they get an individual signature. Like fingerprints and DNA it may take years before they're accepted as proof in criminal court cases, at least they might/will support investigators and get them in the right direction ...
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Post  costello on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 7:56 pm

Châtelaine wrote:Slightly off topic: I don't know if anyone got this today, but there has been a new development in identifying [criminal] people. After the fingerprints and then DNA it is now the "cloud" of bacteria you carry and lose in the air. Although we all carry more or less the same types of bacteria, once with us they get an individual signature. Like fingerprints and DNA it may take years before they're accepted as proof in criminal court cases, at least they might/will support investigators and get them in the right direction ...

Interesting Chatelaine.
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Post  PMR on Wed 30 Sep 2015, 6:33 pm

Freedom wrote:I'm surprised about the charge of perverting the course of public justice - wouldn't wasting police time have been more relevant?

To be fair (as I always try to be!) she sounds as if she may have mental health issues.
Perverting the course of Justice potentially has a much higher sentence than Wasting Police time. If it's applied or not is another matter
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Mystery of British ex-journalist's death

Post  Freedom on Mon 19 Oct 2015, 9:03 am

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Post  nannygroves on Mon 19 Oct 2015, 3:04 pm

According to MailOnline, ''She ( the journalist ) had also spoken in June of her fears that she may be targeted by the Islamic State while working in the Iraqi city of Erbil, reportedly as acting Iraq director for the Institute for War and Peace Reporting

Seems strange to me that a woman who supposedly feared for her life should take her own. Presumably anyone who fears for their lives places value on it ...........so yes, ................odd.
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A fake abduction in France in 2009

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Post  Mimi on Tue 03 Nov 2015, 10:09 am

No, not heard of it either. Seems she was the family scapegoat.

According to this they got 30 years prison sentence.

Translation :-

"Thirty years in prison for the mother and the father-Typhaine
- January 25, 2013 at 11:59 (updated 6:44 p.m.)
Luc Fremiot, General Counsel, stressed the will to kill the little Typhaine in his indictment.

The Advocate General had stressed in his address on the willingness of the couple to kill the little 5 year old girl in 2009.

Thirty years in prison for the mother and the father-Typhaine
On behalf of "children martyred", the Advocate General had requested Frémiot Luc Friday before the assizes North 30 years imprisonment against the mother and stepfather Typhaine, tried for the murder in 2009 of 5 year old girl, they had camouflaged disappearance. Anne-Sophie Reaper and Nicolas Willot, aged respectively 26 and 27, who admitted to repeated violence against the child became their scapegoat but deny having wanted to kill her, incur life imprisonment at the end of trial began Monday. The court decided to comdamner them to 30 years' imprisonment, following the submissions of the prosecutor.

At the resumption of the hearing on Friday shortly after 9:00, the members of the family of the father of Typhaine, civil parties in the trial, tight in the front row had all put on a white T-shirt bearing the image of the little girl . "This little girl with blond hair, his laughing face (...), they looked everywhere, from morning to night. As now, in this criminal court, it seeks, but there is silence. It has energetically sought because a child disappears, that's life that stops ", hammered the Advocate General at the beginning of his indictment two hours.

Become "invisible children" since his mother had taken from her father's family six months before his death, Typhaine "belongs to us all", said Luc Frémiot. The "children martyred" it "are all our children, we have more rights over them you Anne-Sophie Reaper", he protested, looking at the accused, who kept his eyes lowered throughout the indictment.

Referring to the many abuse for weeks the girl become a "puppet dislocated", the Advocate General said be "face to real torture", from a couple whose will to kill does no doubt, he said. "Yes, the act is monstrous, but the monster you have to judge also hides a woman's heart", mother of three children at the age of 22 who had a violent childhood pleaded his side's lawyer Anne-Sophie Reaper, Ms. Blandine Lejeune, calling the jury to deliver a "strong but just punishment".

"What I did was unforgivable, that's why I do not apologize to the families. Typhaine did not deserve this ", said the accused, feverish in the dock before the court withdraws to deliberate in mid-afternoon. The lawyer of his former partner, Mr. Emmanuel Riglaire, had asked the court in the late morning to "individualize" the cases of two accused and ask this question: is his client "guilty of murder" or " guilty of intentional violence causing death "?

The jury will have to answer this last qualification, said the president of the court. For the Advocate General, Anne-Sophie and Nicolas Willot Reaper are "inextricably linked" after signing "a cursed pact for the suffering of this kid, the scapegoat that must get rid".

"Who do we want to believe that a 5 year old child, when one denies eating when one strikes, to whom we want to believe" that the death was "not inevitable? ', S' Advocate General was moved. After being struck in the evening of 10 or June 11, 2009, he recalled, Typhaine had been placed "under the cold shower", and the couple had returned "watching television".

"And ten minutes, fifteen minutes after hearing a rattle, you stay ten minutes watching TV (...) and there is no will homicide?", Accused the Advocate General. "You do not think that in this context, it rushes to the phone to call for help (...)? The willingness homicide, it is there. We see her before we see her for, we see later, we see all the time ", he concluded."

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Post  Freedom on Tue 03 Nov 2015, 10:14 am

Thank you. I've corrected the year in the topic heading.
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8-year-old boy charged with murder of baby

Post  Freedom on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 10:22 am

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Post  Antonia on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 12:22 pm

The mother left her one year old daughter with a group of babysitters ALL UNDER 9 YEARS OLD.  Her daughter was battered to death. The mother went to a nightclub at 11.30 pm. She did not check her child when she returned so only discovered the dead toddler in the morning. An eight year old babysitter is in custody. the mother is to be charged with manslaughter.

This mother is not a middle class professional.

the McCanns left their two year old twins with an almost four year old babysitter. The babysitter vanished and has not been found. No charges have been made against the parents.


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Post  Freedom on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 12:26 pm

We must at least be grateful that she did not try to cover up what had happened.

The more I think about this one, the worse it gets. Was the mother of the 8-year-old aware that he was spending the night at a neighbour's house to mind other children? How could she have allowed this?

P.S. Apparently his mother was out clubbing too!

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2015/11/police_8-year-old_charged_in_b.html#incart_most-commented_pacific-northwest-news_article
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Post  dogs don't lie on Thu 12 Nov 2015, 6:31 pm

Bloody hell what's wrong with some people?

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Post  Freedom on Fri 13 Nov 2015, 12:50 pm

Who - apart from me - remembers the very sad case of Caroline Desramault, a baby whose French father was given custody of her (for no known good reason) in 1971?

The decision was later reversed but the father did a runner with the child. It took until 1973 for Linda, her mother, to get her back.

Here is a brief summary that I've found.

In the news 1960s/70s

For many weeks in that decade there was an heart-rending newspaper and other media story about a British woman whose vengeful and estranged French husband had, by hoodwinking the authorities, spirited abroad their infant son. He took delight in declaring that she would never see the boy again until at least he reached adulthood and there was nothing she, or the British authorities, could do about it. I have often wondered what subsequently happened.; With the passage of time I cannot remember the names of the couple involved, but I have an idea it was something like Desremoix and her name, maybe, Linda. Can anyone recall this case that





Caroline Desramault was the child's name. Her father, Rene Desramault repeatedly ignored court orders, including orders from the highest appeal court in France, to return her to her mother, Linda. In August 1972, a few days before Caroline was to be returned to her mother, Rene Desramault fled the French town of Lens, where he was living, and disappeared. He was eventually tracked down to Switzerland in September 1972, and the Swiss authorities placed Caroline in a children's home where she languished until a final and definitive ruling from the highest French court confirmed that she must be returned to her mother. Both parents took turns visiting Caroline in this children's home until March 1973, when the French ruling was recognised by the Swiss authorities. As luck would have it, Linda was actually at the children's home visiting Caroline when the court order came through. She immediately took her daughter to the airport and flew back to England before Rene could get to the children's home and try to stop her from leaving with Caroline. Linda subsequently divorced Rene - and some years later remarried - this time very happily. Rene, a bitter and vindictive man who used a helpless little girl as a pawn to punish her mother for daring to leave him, died some years later.
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Post  Châtelaine on Fri 27 Nov 2015, 11:30 am

This is too horrible to try and imagine ...
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