Capabilities of the Dogs

He may not be on that committee any more. A current list of members can be found here
https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/committee-on-medical-aspects-of-radiation-in-the-environment-comare#membership

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froggy wrote:He may not be on that committee any more. A current list of members can be found here
https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/committee-on-medical-aspects-of-radiation-in-the-environment-comare#membership

scroll down for membership

Thanks for that.  That's another question, was he pushed or did he jump. I've found this extract from a post from Joana Morais -

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/mccanns-links-to-government-as-origin.html

News Anchor Andreia Vale - The connections of the McCann family to the British government have always been viewed as one of the reasons for the heightened media coverage given to the case. Maddie's father worked for the government and would have aspirations of integrating the executive.

Voice over - From the news of the alleged abduction until the English police landed in Portugal was a matter of few hours. The proximity of the girl's father with the English government made it easier to give priority to the case and mobilize the necessary means. Gerry McCann worked in a committee for the Government which analysed the impact of Nuclear plants in the environment, at a time when Tony Blair was the prime minister. As a doctor, a cardiologist by profession, the "McCann father" wished to go further and everything suggested that he aspired to have a political office in the government, namely as health minister. The way in which he asked for help when Maddie disappeared also indicates the proximity with the British government. Gerry McCann would have called one of Tony Blair's aides, at the time an university professor. It is this man who takes the first steps in order to help the McCann family. Another name that appears is Clarence Mitchell, he came to Portugal to advise the McCann couple and to liaise with the media. In his CV was his role as the director of a department that monitored the press and all the news for the British government. He was also the head of the Comms Cabinet Office of Gordon Brown. Connections that succeed in sending to the Algarve dogs, experts, police, and various resources from the United Kingdom.

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I find the sentence referring to GM as aspiring to have a political office, namely as health minister, most intriguing.  I've never seen that mentioned before. I wonder where that information came from.

https://www.omniamed.co.uk/meetings/london/cardiology/autumn2015


Dr Gerry McCann
Consultant Cardiologist; Glenfield Hospital and Honorary Senior Lecturer, Department of Cardiovascular Sciences, University of Leicester
Gerry McCann
Gerry McCann is a Consultant Cardiologist, having been appointed in 2005, and is a Reader in Cardiovascular Imaging at the University of Leicester and an executive member of the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) Leicester Cardiovascular Biomedical Research Unit. He is currently undertaking a research fellowship funded by the NIHR and is a visiting fellow at the University of Oxford. Gerry is a graduate of the University of Glasgow where he also undertook postgraduate training and his doctoral research. Cardiology training included periods in Glasgow, New Zealand and Leicester before completing a fellowship in Cardiac MRI (CMR) in 2004 at the VU Medical Center in Amsterdam under the supervision of Prof. van Rossum. Dr McCann directs a very active clinical imaging research programme with funding from the British Heart Foundation, MRC and the National Institute of Health Research. Disease interests include coronary artery disease, heart failure and valvular heart disease. Dr McCann was the principal investigator of the Complete v Lesion-Only Primary PCI Trial MRI substudy (CvLPRIT CMR) that was funded by the NIHR.

Bless him.....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dopey-police-sniffer-dog-who-6836960#nav-panel

A Scottish tourist got missing in Amsterdam mid November this year.
They've now used dogs, who sniffed at one of his used T-shirts and today found him in the water!

but, but, but.........their notoriously unreliable!

Ask the dogs Sandra,or is it being said that a false trail was laid to fool the dogs brought in some time later,of course the McCanns could not know of this,conspiracy too far for me.

Heisenburg wrote:Ask the dogs Sandra,or is it being said that a false trail was laid to fool the dogs brought in some time later,of course the McCanns could not know of this,conspiracy too far for me.

It is possible they would know that dogs might be brought in at some point. There are plenty of precedents for that. The dogs evidence has always brought me back to earth in my meanderings but FP did used to work fir a company that produced synthetic cadaverine. Quite why they would implicate themselves that way is also almost a deal breaker unless they were getting out of hand and that was to reign them in.
Even I agree it is a theory too far....almost. but what if?

Someone mentioned earlier that it was Jane Tanner who worked for such a company.

Some proof would be good, whether it was her or Fiona Payne.

Freedom wrote:Someone mentioned earlier that it was Jane Tanner who worked for such a company.

Some proof would be good, whether it was her or Fiona Payne.

could be right Freedom, admit I might have misremembered who it was. Sure I read it on here though.

chirpyinsect wrote:

Freedom wrote:Someone mentioned earlier that it was Jane Tanner who worked for such a company.

Some proof would be good, whether it was her or Fiona Payne.

could be right Freedom, admit I might have misremembered who it was. Sure I read it on here though.

Jane Tanner worked in marketing for Fisher Scientific. They do produce cadaverine.

Didn't know she worked for Exeter Uni: http://www.exeter.ac.uk/departments/communication/webteam/team/janetanner/

According to Wikipedia you can make it yourself at home. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaverine

chirpyinsect wrote:

Heisenburg wrote:Ask the dogs Sandra,or is it being said that a false trail was laid to fool the dogs brought in some time later,of course the McCanns could not know of this,conspiracy too far for me.

It is possible they would know that dogs might be brought in at some point. There are plenty of precedents for that. The dogs evidence has always brought me back to earth in my meanderings but FP did used to work fir a company that produced synthetic cadaverine. Quite why they would implicate themselves that way is also almost a deal breaker unless they were getting out of hand and that was to reign them in.
Even I agree it is a theory too far....almost. but what if?

KM had a dream,then the dogs were brought in,British dogs,British handler if you want a comspiracy.
But to allow the MC's to go after Mr Amaral on the back of an hoax,can't see it.

seahorse wrote:

chirpyinsect wrote:

Freedom wrote:Someone mentioned earlier that it was Jane Tanner who worked for such a company.

Some proof would be good, whether it was her or Fiona Payne.

could be right Freedom, admit I might have misremembered who it was. Sure I read it on here though.

Jane Tanner worked in marketing for Fisher Scientific. They do produce cadaverine.

According to Wikipedia you can make it yourself at home. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaverine

Yes, the company name is here in her statement and she was a Marketing Manager.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

Heisenburg wrote:Ask the dogs Sandra,or is it being said that a false trail was laid to fool the dogs brought in some time later,of course the McCanns could not know of this,conspiracy too far for me.

The McCanns could not know of this? Pray tell me why that is.

nannygroves wrote:

Heisenburg wrote:Ask the dogs Sandra,or is it being said that a false trail was laid to fool the dogs brought in some time later,of course the McCanns could not know of this,conspiracy too far for me.

The McCanns could not know of this? Pray tell me why that is.

If its pre planned and some giant hoax is it seriously being proposed that Mr Grime was in on it?

seahorse wrote:

chirpyinsect wrote:

Freedom wrote:Someone mentioned earlier that it was Jane Tanner who worked for such a company.

Some proof would be good, whether it was her or Fiona Payne.

could be right Freedom, admit I might have misremembered who it was. Sure I read it on here though.

Jane Tanner worked in marketing for Fisher Scientific. They do produce cadaverine.

Didn't know she worked for Exeter Uni: http://www.exeter.ac.uk/departments/communication/webteam/team/janetanner/

According to Wikipedia you can make it yourself at home. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaverine

My bad on the name but I thought I had read it. Thanks Seahorse.

Interesting info from wiki.

Elevated levels of cadaverine have been found in the urine of some patients with defects in lysine metabolism. The odor commonly associated with bacterial vaginosis has been linked to cadaverine and putrescine.[8]

Forgive me ... but ... someone suggesting KM urinated behind the sofa ... ?

ETA I've seen discussion on this subject - no offense meant - some 8 years ago and it led nowhere.
And we must recognise and remember Eddie's track record in multiple criminal cases.

I don't think I want to go there either literally or metaphorically.

Are we saying the scent could have come not from a dead body but from someone with a urine infection?

Freedom wrote:I don't think I want to go there either literally or metaphorically.

Are we saying the scent could have come not from a dead body but from someone with a urine infection?

Nah, it was someone with bad breath..........

http://www.therabreath.com/articles/oral-care-tips-and-advice/bad-breath-can-practically-smell-like-death-3707/




In which case the dogs would have alerted everywhere

I can't get my head round this either, bizarre. Like Chatelaine I am convinced Eddie's track
record speaks volumes, and his findings in apartment 5a were 100% accurate.

I have worked with a few people whose presence could be smelt from quite some way off!

One woman in particular had an horrendous problem and from such a delicate area, shall we say, that everyone was too embarrassed to mention it to her.

Eventually it was some poor manager (male) who had to pluck up courage and speak to her about it.

Let's move on now to more fragrant things!

Freedom wrote:I don't think I want to go there either literally or metaphorically.

Are we saying the scent could have come not from a dead body but from someone with a urine infection?

I make no such inference. Just thought it was interesting. This isn't a flounce but I will leave it there as it is going nowhere. Back to the drawing board.

Heisenburg wrote:

nannygroves wrote:

Heisenburg wrote:Ask the dogs Sandra,or is it being said that a false trail was laid to fool the dogs brought in some time later,of course the McCanns could not know of this,conspiracy too far for me.

The McCanns could not know of this? Pray tell me why that is.

If its pre planned and some giant hoax is it seriously being proposed that Mr Grime was in on it?

Absolutely not. I don't even know if the dogs could be confused by synthetic cadaverine. Probably not in which case, game over for there having been no death. What the dogs can't do us tell us when the death happened.

Nor who it was. But there was death scent behind the sofa [& in other places] and no one's known to have died in that apartment nor in the car ...