The mystery of DeOrr Kunz Jr
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Deorr Kunz Jr
I know this case (remarkably similar to Madeleine McCann) has been discussed on the 'Missing Children' thread but I reckon it warrants its own.
Some latest news on it and those who aren't familiar then just google the name and read away. (lots of links and info)
http://kboi2.com/news/local/parents-grandparents-of-deorr-kunz-jr-file-lawsuit-against-private-investigator
Some latest news on it and those who aren't familiar then just google the name and read away. (lots of links and info)
http://kboi2.com/news/local/parents-grandparents-of-deorr-kunz-jr-file-lawsuit-against-private-investigator
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I'll put the link on the other topic too.
Certainly sounds familiar in respect of trying to silence people who don't believe the yarn you're spinning.
Certainly sounds familiar in respect of trying to silence people who don't believe the yarn you're spinning.
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Temporary topic
More about the Deorr Kunz case - there is also a separate topic.
http://kboi2.com/news/local/parents-grandparents-of-deorr-kunz-jr-file-lawsuit-against-private-investigator
http://kboi2.com/news/local/parents-grandparents-of-deorr-kunz-jr-file-lawsuit-against-private-investigator
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Re: The mystery of DeOrr Kunz Jr
It is little Deorr's birthday today I believe.
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bluebell wrote:It is little Deorr's birthday today I believe.
I didn't know that. Very sad stuff and I hope 2017 is the year the little one gets justice as well.
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http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/friday-marks-missing-boy-deorr-kunz-jrs-4th-birthday/380662665
It seems the parents are still suspects but no charges have been made.
It seems the parents are still suspects but no charges have been made.
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I think the Deorrs copied a lot of the McCanns who in turn copied a lot of the Ramseys.
IMO etc.
IMO etc.
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How we need this firm involved with another case!
This is their Facebook message. I like the bit about tell the investigators what happened, then do your time and go on with your life.
Statement On The DeOrr Kunz Case :
"This afternoon we have been receiving some media calls regarding the dismissal of the lawsuit against our firm. To be clear - we have not seen the suit - nor were we served with any lawsuit.
Let us be even more clear - we have never wavered from our statement and we will make it today : We believe and confirm our belief today that Vernal Kunz, Jessica Mitchel, are persons of interest and suspects in the disappearance of their child - DeOrr Kunz. Robert Walton is a person of interest with direct knowledge in the disappearance of Derorr Kunz , Jr. And Issac Reiwand is a simple witness with no interest. We have, and there is no evidence, that a kidnapping or animal incident has happened. Zero.
We understand that Jessica Mitchel has in the media stated she believes Vernal is capable of the crime to which we investigate. We believe her. We also believe that she too may be capable.
To you the citizens of Idaho - know that we are not going anywhere. We have said before - and we will say again - the truth is the ultimate defense. The truth is on our side. However, we believe that Vernal, Jessica and Bob hold the keys to ending this. We again ask them publicly - stop - think - and tell the investigators what happened. Then do your time and go on with your life.
As we have said from the beginning - the LE team to the FBI, Sheriff Penner and the team in Idaho Falls are dedicated lawmen. This will never be over to us - and we think them - until this child's body is home for proper rest.
Thank you again - to all of you around the United States for your un-biased support."
This is their Facebook message. I like the bit about tell the investigators what happened, then do your time and go on with your life.
Statement On The DeOrr Kunz Case :
"This afternoon we have been receiving some media calls regarding the dismissal of the lawsuit against our firm. To be clear - we have not seen the suit - nor were we served with any lawsuit.
Let us be even more clear - we have never wavered from our statement and we will make it today : We believe and confirm our belief today that Vernal Kunz, Jessica Mitchel, are persons of interest and suspects in the disappearance of their child - DeOrr Kunz. Robert Walton is a person of interest with direct knowledge in the disappearance of Derorr Kunz , Jr. And Issac Reiwand is a simple witness with no interest. We have, and there is no evidence, that a kidnapping or animal incident has happened. Zero.
We understand that Jessica Mitchel has in the media stated she believes Vernal is capable of the crime to which we investigate. We believe her. We also believe that she too may be capable.
To you the citizens of Idaho - know that we are not going anywhere. We have said before - and we will say again - the truth is the ultimate defense. The truth is on our side. However, we believe that Vernal, Jessica and Bob hold the keys to ending this. We again ask them publicly - stop - think - and tell the investigators what happened. Then do your time and go on with your life.
As we have said from the beginning - the LE team to the FBI, Sheriff Penner and the team in Idaho Falls are dedicated lawmen. This will never be over to us - and we think them - until this child's body is home for proper rest.
Thank you again - to all of you around the United States for your un-biased support."
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I was going to come back at a later point and paste that FB message up.
Very good indeed.
Very good indeed.
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A flier from the National Center for Missing and Exploiting Children was posted along with the announcement. The flier shows two photos of DeOrr, who was reported missing during a family camping trip in the
Salmon-Challis National Forest on July 10, 2015.
Is this the place GM visited? I can't remember the name but I think it was Ernie?
Salmon-Challis National Forest on July 10, 2015.
Is this the place GM visited? I can't remember the name but I think it was Ernie?
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Yes; Ernie Allen.
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The PI involved with Deorr's case has posted another f/b statement. I don't know what the "Missing 411" video is that he refers to, was it a TV programme perhaps?
Statement by Philip R. Klein, Sr. Investigator The DeOrr Kunz Case :
"This afternoon our firm has been receiving calls from the general public regarding the release of the "Missing 411" video. In such - we now have story version "#8" from Vernal Kunz and Jessica Mitchell.
This release has now set off the "armchair" detectives. We want the public to be very vigilant in what they believe and / hear from these amateur detectives.
We can say without a doubt that the FBI, Lemhi and Bonneville County sheriff’s office are working on this case. As we have told you before and will say again - based upon the evidence that we have and many of you have not seen - it is our opinion that Vernal Kunz and Jessica Mitchell are primary suspects in this case. Now, with these interviews in the movie - our belief is now even stronger.
We further want to warn you the public, that in fact it is our belief that there is an effort by some family members to discredit our firm and law enforcement. Sadly - for them - now that this interview is out - and comparing them to the other interviews they have given - you can see that they cannot even keep their original story straight. Further, please be very careful regarding who you listen to, as there are some very mean, unstable, and agenda driven people that like to inject their agenda driven opinions into the social media, public, and most of all their communities. It is very sad to watch this happen.
As we have said in public - and as we have said to the media - we hope and pray every single day that we are wrong. However, with this newest interview, sadly we are stronger in our belief that DeOrr Kunz is dead and the parents are suspects.
Again - we ask for prayers - we ask for prayers for DeOrr - and we give you our promise that we will not leave this case until his body is found. We are moving forward every single day.
Thank you as always for your kind comments and tips that continue to pour in every day."
Statement by Philip R. Klein, Sr. Investigator The DeOrr Kunz Case :
"This afternoon our firm has been receiving calls from the general public regarding the release of the "Missing 411" video. In such - we now have story version "#8" from Vernal Kunz and Jessica Mitchell.
This release has now set off the "armchair" detectives. We want the public to be very vigilant in what they believe and / hear from these amateur detectives.
We can say without a doubt that the FBI, Lemhi and Bonneville County sheriff’s office are working on this case. As we have told you before and will say again - based upon the evidence that we have and many of you have not seen - it is our opinion that Vernal Kunz and Jessica Mitchell are primary suspects in this case. Now, with these interviews in the movie - our belief is now even stronger.
We further want to warn you the public, that in fact it is our belief that there is an effort by some family members to discredit our firm and law enforcement. Sadly - for them - now that this interview is out - and comparing them to the other interviews they have given - you can see that they cannot even keep their original story straight. Further, please be very careful regarding who you listen to, as there are some very mean, unstable, and agenda driven people that like to inject their agenda driven opinions into the social media, public, and most of all their communities. It is very sad to watch this happen.
As we have said in public - and as we have said to the media - we hope and pray every single day that we are wrong. However, with this newest interview, sadly we are stronger in our belief that DeOrr Kunz is dead and the parents are suspects.
Again - we ask for prayers - we ask for prayers for DeOrr - and we give you our promise that we will not leave this case until his body is found. We are moving forward every single day.
Thank you as always for your kind comments and tips that continue to pour in every day."
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Was just trying to find that doc. This isn't it but will post it up anyway (for me to remember to watch at a later date)
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It sounds like a weird conspiracy Bermuda Triangle type of thing according to the trailer and my immediate reaction is "my elbow!".
However, I shall try to give it a chance when it is available in full.
However, I shall try to give it a chance when it is available in full.
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I've not yet watched the trailer. The full doc doesn't appear to be out anyway. (certainly not on YouTube)
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I may be wrong (perish the thought!) but I get the impression that it's a similar scenario to something closer to home - portraying an area as a hotbed of mysterious abductions and disappearances when the solution to a particular case is bleeding obvious!
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Watched the full documentary last night on missing baby Deorr Kunz, it was very interesting, although I missed the first bit. The parents failed the lie detector test on multiple occasions. It is indeed a mystery as to how the little boy just vanished into thin air.
It will no doubt be repeated in next few days and I will give a link if I see it. It was on Investigation Discovery channel, called The People Investigates what happened to baby DeOrr Kunz.
It will no doubt be repeated in next few days and I will give a link if I see it. It was on Investigation Discovery channel, called The People Investigates what happened to baby DeOrr Kunz.
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