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Admin wrote:A quick bit of editing had to be done, well not that quick........
I think that tells us what that journalist believes.
Seeing that gave me a lovely mental picture.
You know Alice in Wonderland, and the queen of hearts constantly shouting "off with their heads"?
It just struck me that could be the reaction in Rothley, if she saw it?
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I think they are playing mind games with them mumof6. Maybe after being manipulated by the McCanns for so long, they think it's payback time. Tick tock...
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What's_up_doc? wrote:I think they are playing mind games with them mumof6. Maybe after being manipulated by the McCanns for so long, they think it's payback time. Tick tock...
I hope so, but I am still struggling to believe it.
Fingers crossed, maybe it was deliberate, though I tend to think most of these things are due to sheer incompetence rather than an intelligent master plan.
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Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
Latest Facebook post from Pat Brown.
Pat Brown’s legal counsel, Attorney Brian Close, has identified multiple claims against Rahni Sadler and Seven West Media – including intentional misrepresentation, false light, and defamation - based on the portrayals that took place in the Sunday Night promotional video and in the piece itself. He states: “The misleading edits portray Pat Brown in a false light by contorting her statements and changing their substance, and the broadcasts and publications have done and continue to do damage to Ms. Brown’s professional reputation wherever they are viewed around the world."
Pat Brown’s legal counsel, Attorney Brian Close, has identified multiple claims against Rahni Sadler and Seven West Media – including intentional misrepresentation, false light, and defamation - based on the portrayals that took place in the Sunday Night promotional video and in the piece itself. He states: “The misleading edits portray Pat Brown in a false light by contorting her statements and changing their substance, and the broadcasts and publications have done and continue to do damage to Ms. Brown’s professional reputation wherever they are viewed around the world."
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Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
Here is a link to watch the programme
https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/watch/35131192/madeleine-mccann-gone-part-1/
https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/watch/35131192/madeleine-mccann-gone-part-1/
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Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
Thanks Mo will watch in a bit...
Meanwhile...
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Yes, I AM suing @rahnisadler and #SevenWestMedia media for intentional misrepresentation, false light, and defamation. #McCann
Meanwhile...
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Yes, I AM suing @rahnisadler and #SevenWestMedia media for intentional misrepresentation, false light, and defamation. #McCann
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Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
Well I've watched one to 3 but won't be bothering with 4 -5, apart from buffering all the time they are a complete waste of time. I think Professor Barclay has changed his tune, will have to look at what he said years ago. As for Pat she's in part 3 - not sure what to think about that!
Added: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mccanns-evidence-doesnt-add-up-514328
Added: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mccanns-evidence-doesnt-add-up-514328
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Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
From the live update:
Maybe they can try to speak with Sym***ton and ask if he knows something.
Maybe they can try to speak with Sym***ton and ask if he knows something.
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Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
Transcript (from bottom to top)
16:50
We'll bring you updates on this story as it develops over the next few hours, days (and weeks, and possibly years). For now, thanks for staying with us for the past few hours.
16:48
(Whatever the situation, it is still heartbreaking to hear Kate talk about her missing little girl, even 10 years on).
16:46
(However, how much its contents moves on the investigation remains to be seen. We do not know at this stage whether the mysterious 'somebody' referred to by Colin Sutton has been identified and that information kept under wraps, or whether it's another theory which requires following up from scratch).
16:42
(The story of Madeleine's disappearance remains a gripping, and from that perspective the documentary was thoroughly engaging).
16:41
(And there we have it folks, Australia's world exclusive documentary on the search for Madeleine McCann).
16:41
KM: Yes.
16:40
RS: You will keep looking forever.
16:40
KM: Whilst the situation remains as it is, Madeleine is out there and she needs us to find her.
16:40
KM: I don't believe any parent could. I don't believe we would ever reach a point where we think, 'Oh, we've done everything now'.
16:39
RS: You will not rest until you find your daughter and put your arms around her?
16:39
KM: It's every parent's worst nightmare, and it's touched everybody, I think.
16:39
Kate McCann: You haven't got a name, or a face, or anyone to blame.
16:38
Gerry McCann: People want to believe something like this can't happen to them. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice.....
16:38
CM: In some cases, missing persons appear out of the woodwork like the girls in Cleveland, Jaycee Lee Dugard, Natasha Kampusch, Elisabeth Fritzl, Shawn Hornbeck, and so it does give us hope.
16:38
CM: She's grown up now and is maybe speaking a foreign language.
16:37
Clarence Mitchell: In the absence of evidence that she's been harmed, there's (just as much reason) to believe she is alive and being held against her will.
16:36
Colin Sutton: Madeleine McCann could not have disappeared into thin air. Somebody must know what happened. Somebody knows the truth.
16:36
DB: It might be solved if Madeleine's body is found and there is evidence either in the body or where the body is found that would point to someone, otherwise it will never be solved because there is just no physical evidence we can use even to eliminate some of the theories.
16:35
RS: In your opinion, will this crime ever be solved?
16:35
Professor Dave Barclay: The reason there is so much interest in this case is that everyone of the explanations is implausible but we know that one of them must be correct.
16:50
We'll bring you updates on this story as it develops over the next few hours, days (and weeks, and possibly years). For now, thanks for staying with us for the past few hours.
16:48
(Whatever the situation, it is still heartbreaking to hear Kate talk about her missing little girl, even 10 years on).
16:46
(However, how much its contents moves on the investigation remains to be seen. We do not know at this stage whether the mysterious 'somebody' referred to by Colin Sutton has been identified and that information kept under wraps, or whether it's another theory which requires following up from scratch).
16:42
(The story of Madeleine's disappearance remains a gripping, and from that perspective the documentary was thoroughly engaging).
16:41
(And there we have it folks, Australia's world exclusive documentary on the search for Madeleine McCann).
16:41
KM: Yes.
16:40
RS: You will keep looking forever.
16:40
KM: Whilst the situation remains as it is, Madeleine is out there and she needs us to find her.
16:40
KM: I don't believe any parent could. I don't believe we would ever reach a point where we think, 'Oh, we've done everything now'.
16:39
RS: You will not rest until you find your daughter and put your arms around her?
16:39
KM: It's every parent's worst nightmare, and it's touched everybody, I think.
16:39
Kate McCann: You haven't got a name, or a face, or anyone to blame.
16:38
Gerry McCann: People want to believe something like this can't happen to them. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice.....
16:38
CM: In some cases, missing persons appear out of the woodwork like the girls in Cleveland, Jaycee Lee Dugard, Natasha Kampusch, Elisabeth Fritzl, Shawn Hornbeck, and so it does give us hope.
16:38
CM: She's grown up now and is maybe speaking a foreign language.
16:37
Clarence Mitchell: In the absence of evidence that she's been harmed, there's (just as much reason) to believe she is alive and being held against her will.
16:36
Colin Sutton: Madeleine McCann could not have disappeared into thin air. Somebody must know what happened. Somebody knows the truth.
16:36
DB: It might be solved if Madeleine's body is found and there is evidence either in the body or where the body is found that would point to someone, otherwise it will never be solved because there is just no physical evidence we can use even to eliminate some of the theories.
16:35
RS: In your opinion, will this crime ever be solved?
16:35
Professor Dave Barclay: The reason there is so much interest in this case is that everyone of the explanations is implausible but we know that one of them must be correct.
16:35
So far there have been 8,685 sightings across 101 countries.
16:34
(The final part of the documentary is coming up now).
16:34
(How much further Colin Sutton's claim takes the investigation, we know not).
16:33
(As opposed to Detective Amaral's claim that MI5 is involved in Madeleine's disappearance).
16:31 A quick look at what we've heard so far
(It appears the 'significant' lead in the case which documentary makers claimed to have uncovered is former Scotland Yard investigator Colin Sutton's claim that 'there is somebody who worked in the Ocean Club complex who it's felt may have some knowledge or be of assistance').
16:27
(We're going to have a very quick break before we come back with the final part of Gone).
16:26
GM: It's caused a lot of upset and damaged the search.
16:25
RS: Do you find it offensive that people are carrying on in this way?
16:25
GM: I think the least said about a Detective Amaral the better.
16:25
RS (to Gerry McCann): Detective Amaral believes in some big cover up with MI5, so what do you think of those claims?
16:24
DA: Well I'm not British so I can't really answer that.
16:24
RS: Do you really think the British Government would allow its agents to cover up a crime?
16:24
Detective Amaral: I'm not saying that much, but I'm saying for sure they have the involvement in the situation.
16:23
(Is this the big revelation...?)
16:23
RS: So you think MI5 helped to conceal the body?
16:23
RS: But Detective Amaral had an extraordinary conspiracy theory as to why the body had never been found.
16:22
PL: Maybe in 5/10 years time, when somebody wants to reuse the well. They would clean it out and her bones would be found. That's the only way.
16:22
RS: If Madeleine's body was dumped down a well, what are the chances of it being found?
16:21
Paul Luckman: There are vast quantities of places. There are 400, 500, 600 wells that still exist and you would be knowledge.
16:20
RS: If she was killed in the area, where could her body be?
16:20
Professor Dave Barclay: It was the easiest place to hide a body I've ever visited in my life.
16:19
RS: You visited the area, so where could Madeleine's body be?
16:18
CS: It would be very easy to secrete something there and be very confident it wouldn't be found.
16:18
CS: It's almost impossible without specific intelligence that would allow you to focus on a specific area. It's a large area of low population and scrubland, of ancient wells, and there are areas where humans don't go from one decade to the next.
16:17
RS: How difficult would it be to find a body in the area?
16:17
Colin Sutton (former Scotland Yard investigator who has repeatedly investigated the Praia Da Luz area where Madeleine disappeared): It's felt there is somebody who worked in the Ocean Club complex who it's felt may have some knowledge or be of assistance.
16:16
RS: Scotland Yard has recently been given an injection of cash to follow up their strongest lead.
16:16
Professor Dave Barclay: I think the Portuguese police and tourist board would have been quite keen not to feature the number of burglaries in the Algarve, and the fact there were random paedophiles snatching children from their beds would have been a disincentive for families to go there, so I think that's possibly an explanation as to how the Met recently found more evidence of children being snatched.
16:15
RS: In the months before Madeleine disappeared, there was a four-fold increase in robberies in the area. There were two unsolved burglaries in the (...) block in which the McCanns stayed.
16:12
Clarence Mitchell: There had been a number of crimes on the Algarve. There had been attempted break-ins when children had been asleep, and intruders had been disturbed and fled from children's bedrooms in some cases.
16:12
RS: Two men were seen on the balcony of an empty unit two doors up from the McCanns, and four hours before Madeleine disappeared an unidentified man was seen loitering in the stairwell of the McCanns' apartment block.
16:11
RS: In the period before Madeleine disappeared, there were several sightings of suspicious men loitering in the area. A neighbour reported bogus charity collectors door knocking villas, a school girl saw a fair haired man casing the McCanns' apartment from multiple directions, a British holidaymaker also reported a suspicious man lurking inside their apartment.
16:10
AR: What we have got here is an intruder with a very unhealthy interest in young white girls whilst they are in their beds on their holidays.
16:09
RS: On six of those occasions, the intruder either got into bed with or sexually assaulted a child.
16:09
RS: Between 2004 and 2010 within a 60km radius of where Madeleine disappeared, there were 12 crimes involving an intruder breaking into properties of UK nationals in Portugal.
16:08
RS: What happened to Madeleine might not have been an isolated incident.
16:07
Detective Inspector Andy Redwood: There is a possibility that Madeleine is still alive.
16:06
RS: But in 2013, British detectives were given permission to reopen the case. All the evidence the Portuguese found was handed to Scotland Yard and the results were astounding.
16:06
Professor Dave Barclay: There is no piece of solid ground to stand on, nothing you can use to say which of the competing theories is the right one.
16:05
RS: In August 2008, the Portuguese case was closed with no solid evidence as to what happened to Madeleine.
16:04
(We're back with part 4 in a few seconds).
15:59
(We're taking a very quick break while the ads roll. We'll be back in a couple of minutes with part four of this world exclusive documentary).
15:58
GM: So no. That's an emphatic no.
15:57
GM: No, never. There's nothing with any logic. You would have to start with why, how, when. There's simply nothing to suggest anything.
15:57
RS (to Gerry McCann): Did you kill your daughter?
15:56
PB: They'd been walking on the (beach) the whole time. It's possible they got lucky.
15:56
RS: It was their first time in Portugal, so how would they have known where to hide a body?
15:54
PB: It's hard to know where they really looked. That's the whole problem.
15:53
RS: And do you really think the (highest) number of Portuguese police ever involved in searching for someone would not have found the body?
15:52
PB: Whether it was found originally, I do not know.
15:52
PB: There are places easily accessible on a beach where you can wrap a body in a crevice and hide it well without anybody knowing.
15:51
RS: Do you honestly believe that Gerry McCann carried his daughter's body to the beach, hid her so well for three weeks, then moved it to a better hiding spot. How is that possible?
15:49
PB: I've seen cases where people don't break. They stick with it because they are afraid of the repercussions.
15:48
RS: It seems unlikely that nobody would break after all of these years....
15:47
PB: Friends will do that. They will support each other, like a boyfriend saying he spent the night with his girlfriend when he didn't.
15:47
(In her book, which has been banned by Amazon, Pat Brown writes that the McCanns' friends on holiday with them in Portugal helped them to hide the body).
15:46
RS: So you are suggesting that Kate and Gerry's friends, six of whom are doctors, have come up with a lie and kept it for 10 years?
15:45
PB: There are children who have come to harm by their parents' neglect or abuse, and the parents have tried to cover the crime up by moving the body some place else and claim the child had gone missing or been abducted.
15:45
PB: I am saying what I've seen in other cases around the world.
15:44
RS: Are you (seriously) accusing Kate and Gerry McCann of being more concerned about being accused of being negligent than of their daughter who had just died?
15:44
PB: These are three very horrible things to happen. The right thing to do is to call the police, tell them, 'We gave her some medicine, she fell, and died, have mercy on us'.
15:43
PB: You've got a disaster situation in which you think you are going to go to prison in Portugal. 'My children are going to go into custody and we are both going to lose our professions.'
15:42
Pat Brown (criminal profiler and author): The McCanns are lying and hiding the truth.
15:41
Professor Dave Barclay: It could have been a complete accident that she got out of the villa and walked out into the street and got knocked down by somebody. That's an incentive for him to pick up the body and conceal it somewhere.
15:41
RS: Another theory is that Madeleine woke up and walked outside in search of her parents.
15:40
RS: There was another sighting by an Irish family at 10pm, five minutes before Madeleine was reported missing, of a man carrying a small child towards the beach. The suspect had never been found despite photofits.
15:39
RS: One of the McCanns' friends saw a man carrying a child five minutes before Madeleine was reported missing, but the man was (later discovered to be) a tourist carrying his daughter home from the department's crèche.
15:38
Gerry McCann: People mentioned to me that she was snatched to order and I always replied, 'Don't be so ridiculous'. But compared to everything else that's been said, that's a possibility.
15:38
PL: If they were targeting a blonde child (and they had been observing the family and found what they wanted) it could have been an opportunist snatch.
15:36
RS: There have since been numerous other theories about what happened to Madeleine, including that she was taken by a child trafficking syndicate.
15:35
PL: I don't want to be critical of Portuguese police, and I know the effort they put into it, but I think he was somewhat fixated on one single solution when clearly you had to look more widely.
15:35
PL: It's a very difficult one.
15:34
RS (to reporter Paul Luckman): Why wasn't Detective Amaral removed from the case?
15:33
RS: Three months after he led the investigation, Detective Amaral was relieved of his position, but never moved from the investigation entirely.
15:33
Professor Dave Barclay: I don't put much faith in cadaver dogs because they will bark at any decomposing material, human, animals, badger, or even meat if you have spilled some from the boot of your car and then it's then gone off. I put no faith in cadaver dogs.
15:32
RS: But the substance behind the sofa could not be proved to be human blood, let alone Madeleine's blood, and the evidence of the cadaver dogs was questionable.
15:31
RS: Detective Amaral also had the sniffer dogs search the McCanns' apartment, where he claims they found evidence of a cadaver being stored, and behind the sofa the dogs found bodily fluids that were naked to the human eye.
15:29
CM: Are they going to hold their own daughter's body for two weeks and then put her in the boot of a vehicle for the world's media? It's laughable.
15:29
CM: No, that's the point. It could have come from Sean or Amelie.
15:28
RS (to Clarence Mitchell): Could the DNA categorically prove that it belonged to Madeleine?
15:28
KM: It's ludicrous and ridiculous that we hid her so well that nobody has found her, and we hired a car weeks later to move her body.
15:27
(He believes they hid her body at the beach and used a rental car to move it to a more remote place).
15:27
GA: The fluid is a 90 per cent match with the fluid from Madaleine McCann.
15:26
RS: He claimed the dogs detected Madeleine's DNA in a car hired by the McCanns weeks after Madaleine disappeared.
15:25
RS: Detective Amaral brought in two police sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, from the UK.
15:25
GM: (...) If she died when we were in the apartment, why would we cover that up?
15:24
GM: Well, when did she die? The only time she was unattended was when we were at dinner, so how could we have disposed of the body? It's just nonsense.
15:23
GM: The ludicrous thing (theory) is that Madeleine died in the apartment by an accident and we hid the body.
15:23
(Gerry McCann reflects on that theory, calling it 'ludicrous').
15:22
Detective Gonçalo Amara: In 2007, we believed she died in the apartment.
15:22
(OK, we're back LIVE with part three of the programme).
15:17
(There's going to be a very short break now, while the ads roll, before we go live with part three of the programme).
15:16
RS: So if it was an intruder, who was it, and why did they take Madeleine?
15:16
DB: Standard practice in reasonably good-class burglars to make an exit is to open the back door as well so that if somebody comes in the front door you can run out.
15:15
DB: It's quite possible the window could have been opened by a burglar from the inside to get away if somebody came in from the other door.
15:15
RS: He (Dave Barclay) travelled to Portugal and concluded the window could have been opened from the inside....
15:11
Prof Dave Barclay: It seems to me they became more suspicious of the McCanns because of that.
15:08
RS (to PROFESSOR DAVE BARCLAY, a forensic investigator with 45 years of experience): How much confusion did this open window cause Portuguese police?
15:06
(It's well documented that the McCanns' holiday apartment was at the end of the block and looked out onto the street).
15:05
KM: ...but this shutter could be raised from the outside.
15:05
KM: We thought we had to use the pulley mechnanism on the inside to open the shutters and we assumed it was a protective barrier against the outside...
15:03
GM: I went outside (after it was discovered Madeleine was missing) and was totally aghast I could lift the shutter from outside.
15:02
GM: We've left the shutter down all week, the window was down all week, and the curtain was down because we wanted to keep the room nice and cool and dark.
15:01
Gerry McCann: I'm not sure now, but on the night, the way Kate found the room and the way we were able to raise the shutters, I felt that's how the abductor had got in.
14:58
RS: Investigators found no evidence that the window had been forced open or that it had been used to enter or exit the apartment.
14:58
GA: Yes, we think it's a lie.
14:57
RS (to Detective Gonçalo Amaral): Do you believe the McCanns are lying about the window and when it was opened?
14:56
RS: From the beginning, police believed the McCanns had opened the window (of the children's bedroom at their holiday apartment) to make it look like a kidnapping.
14:55
CM: Even now, people come up to me and say things that are completely untrue, but they've read it on Facebook and seen it on Twitter so it must go true.
14:54
CM: So that appears in a paper on Monday in Portugal and it's wrong (factually incorrect). And then it reappears in the Daily Mail on the Tuesday, and then on the Wednesday the mainstream Portuguese papers would rerun the story from the established, illustrious Daily Mail. It was a spin cycle of lunacy.
14:52
Clarence Mitchell: If we denied anything, it gave the media a story because we denied it, so half the time we ignored stuff and didn't give it credibility by commenting on it.
14:51
GM: It was incredibly hard because we were having a trial by media, and there was misinformation and smears against us, and the threat of breaking judicial secrecy if we talked about details of the investigation.
14:50
RS: That's because, under Portuguese law, they were forbidden from speaking out in their own defence.
14:50
KM: It was very difficult to counter any negativity that appeared in the media in Portugal.
14:49
KM: We need people to help us by looking for her, so at that point we felt very alone and that we were fighting a million battles, to be honest.
14:49
KM: And the hardest thing, and the most distressing thing, is that that impacts on the search for Madeleine.
14:49
KM: The UK Government and authorities withdrew and there were doubts amongst sectors of the general public, so we felt hampered then.
14:48
KM: Suddenly doors began to close.
14:48
RS (to Kate and Gerry): Did you feel like catapults against an army, and helpless?
14:47
RS: Four months after Madeleine disappeared, the McCanns became suspects.
14:46
GA: There is no hint or proof the child was kidnapped. On the contrary, there are hints the parents were negligent, and there are hints they were hiding the body.
14:46
RS: The lead investigator thought the McCanns had sedated Madeleine who had fallen and died whilst they were at dinner.
14:45
GA: We were suspicious that an accident could have led to the death of Madeleine.
14:44
GA: The McCann couple.
14:44
RS (to Detective Gonçalo Amaral): Who do you think are the most likely suspects in this case?
14:43
RS: From the beginning, the search was led by Detective Gonçalo Amaral. From early on, he had his suspicions about the McCanns.
14:42
GM: And I have to say I couldn't really console her because I was paddling frantically below the surface.
14:42
GM: My mum said that for several days Kate was howling like wild animal with grief and despair in the bedroom.
14:41
KM: Now I've learned that people judge very readily, and what you see on camera isn't the full story.
14:40
KM: I don't think I had a day for eighteen months that didn't have a long period crying.
14:40
RS (speaking to Kate and Gerry again): People described you as cold and poker faced....
14:38
CM: They were warned about this, and were told by the British authorities, 'If you can try not to show overt emotion'.
14:38
CM: The British police told the McCanns (if) they made any media appearances that perpetrators of abducted children will watch the media coverage to get a sexual kick out of the parents' distress and tears they have caused.
14:36
CM: Once it was reported that the family weren't with the children when Madeleine went missing, then the judgment squad kicked in and they were 'guilty of neglect' at the very least.
14:35
(The McCanns live in the upmarket Leicestershire village of Rothley. Gerry McCann is a top cardiologist).
14:34
CLARENCE MITCHELL (Has represented the family for 10 years). This is something that just didn't fit the stereotypical ideal that many people have, wrongly, that something like this can't happen to a family like them.
14:33
PL: We could be in a field looking for a little girl, but they could be halfway across Spain even before we had set up roadblocks. There are motorways all the way through to North Africa.
14:32
PL: One policeman said to me, 'If the child is abducted, then one hour later she's in Spain'.
14:31
RS: It wasn't until 4:30am the next day, six and a half hours after Madaleine disappeared, that roadblocks were put in place.
14:30
PL: Nobody even considered it could be anything else.
14:30
PL: No it wasn't, and the Portuguese police will freely admit they trampled all over the apartment because they were looking for the little girl.
14:29
RS: So at the beginning it wasn't considered a crime or a crime scene?
14:28
RS: Tramping through the rooms and pool for any noticeable sign of Madeleine. In the process, valuable evidence was destroyed, and clues lost forever.
14:27
RS: From the start the police investigation was flawed. Instead of closing off the apartment as a crime scene, dozens of people came and went.
14:27
PL: Yes, interacting to some extent. I think the police were trying to take it very gently. The whole focus was on a little girl who had got lost...wandered away, and got lost in a strange place.
14:25
RS: With police?
14:25
PL: She was outside.
14:25
RS: What was Kate doing? Was she inside or outside the apartment?
14:25
PL: What mum wouldn't be out of her mind with the thought that she'd lost a child.
14:24
PL: She was very distressed and being comforted.
14:24
RS: And Kate looked out of her mind......
14:23
PL: I saw Kate McCann with one of the friends with his arm around her comforting her. I've got a photograph of her.
14:23
RS: When did you first see the McCanns?
14:22
Paul was one of the first journalists on the scene.
14:22
PL: That was the focus of what they were looking for: a child who had wandered away.
14:21
PAUL LUCKMAN (Reporter & Editor of Portugal News): They were looking for a child who had wandered away. That's what everybody thought must have happened.
14:21
RS: The police joined the search two hours later.
14:20
RS: The Ocean Club Resort's manager mobilised 60 staff to search the club, beach, and surrounds.
14:19
GM: Yes, I just thought 'She can't be taken'. That just doesn't happen but Kate said, 'She's gone someone's taken her'.
14:18
RS: Did you think there must be some confusion, she must be there (in the apartment) somewhere?
14:17
GM: I thought 'How can she be gone?'. It was the furthest thing in my mind and I was saying that to Kate as we were both running.
14:16
GM: I saw that Kate was clearly distraught (she ran screaming to Gerry) so I jumped up in disbelief.
14:16
(OK, here we go with the next part of documentary).
14:15
(We hope, for the family's sake, that the programme makers really have come up with a significant new lead that will help end their nightmare. But we have heard that line many times before, haven't we?).
14:11
(Stay with us for the next part of the programme, coming up imminently).
14:05
(Madeleine was just three years old when she vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal’s Praia da Luz nearly 10 years ago, on May 3, 2007).
14:02 Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann
13:59
(After 10 years of investigation, it's very difficult to imagine what the 'significant' new lead in the case could be).
13:57
(Show makers said the lead they had uncovered could bring the search for the missing youngster closer to an end).
13:56
(A teaser video for the show, Australia's Channel 7's Sunday Night programme, suggested a significant new lead in the case has been unearthed. We are still waiting for an indication of what that might be).
13:54
(There has been no indication yet of the new lead programme makers claim to have uncovered. They have come in for criticism for refusing to disclose before the programme aired the information they said they had found).
13:52
Kate went to check on the children at 10.05pm. The window of the children's bedroom was open, and Madeleine was gone. Kate said she 'knew' her daughter had been taken. She ran back to the tapas restaurant, screaming at Gerry and their friends: 'Madeleine's gone, someone's taken her.'
13:49
At 8.30pm, Kate and Gerry went to meet their friends at a nearby tapas restaurant from which their apartment block was visible. Gerry checked on the children 9.05pm. All was well.
13:47
On the night Madeleine went missing, the youngster was tired. She had cuddles from her mum and was read stories, before going to bed at 7pm, along with the twins who were in cots.
13:45
Kate said she did not want to go on the holiday initially because she feared it would be a lot of hassle, having thre children. But it turned out to be a very happy time for them all.
13:44 What's happened so far?
Kate and Gerry McCann have been speaking about what was initially a 'wonderful' holiday in Portugal, with their three children, Madeleine and twins Sean and Amelie.
13:42
The programme has paused for an ad break.
13:41
KM: 'Madeleine's gone, someone's taken her.'
13:40
KM: And as soon as I saw Gerry and our friends in the Tapas Bar I was just screaming.
13:38
KM: Then I just legged it out of the apartment.
13:37
KM: I knew in my heart she'd been taken...but maybe I was hoping she would be hiding in a cupboard.
13:35
KM: I whizzed around the apartment in ten seconds. Again, I don't know what I was expecting.
13:33
KM: I ran to the window and had no idea what I was expecting to see.
13:33
KM: Then I just knew she'd been taken.
13:32
KM: The curtains and the the window were swung open into the room. It felt like the shutter had been pulled all the way up and the windows pulled across.
13:31
RS: At 10:05pm it was Kate's turn to check on the (children). She estimates it took 30-45 seconds to walk from the Tapas bar on the other side of the pool to their apartment number 5A. She walked into the kids bedroom and felt a gust of wind.
13:30
GM: I just lingered for a few seconds and thought about how beautiful she was and that was the last time I saw her. Then my world my shattered.
13:30
GM: It was a moment when I thought I was so lucky to have three children, having a wonderful holiday, the kids were really enjoying it.
13:29
RS: Madeleine was asleep in a single bed in the front room where her parents kept the windows closed and locked. The twins Sean and Amelie were in travel cots by her side. At 9:05pm, Gerry returned to check on the children.
13:28
RS: The children were in bed by 7pm, the parents left for the Tapas bar at 8:30pm The Tapas bar was across the pool from their apartment. The McCanns apartment was at the end of the block, the most accessible from the street. The front door was locked but the sliding patio doors at the back were left unlocked to allow east access to check on the children.
13:28
KM: She liked wearing my engagement ring, so she was sitting there wearing that and then we had some treats, some crisps and biscuits, then we did the usual toilet, teeth, and went through to the bedroom and read another story, 'If you are happy and you know it'.
13:27
KM: Madeleine had had a very full day. She'd been to the beach and been on a mini boat or a dinghy, and..my memory of that evening is very vivid. She was very tired and was just cuddled up on my knee and read a story.
13:27
RS: Thursday, May 3 was the second last night....
13:27
KM: If it had occurred to us that there was any risk at all, it just wouldn't have happened.
13:26
KM: Yes that's right. We never thought anything else. It was a case of we can eat here that would be ideal, the kids won't be disruptive, we can get them sorted, and then eat. It was as simple as that.
13:26
RS: It never for one second came across your mind that something could happen.....
13:26
The couples (McCanns' friends) and the McCanns made a block booking for six nights at the local Tapas Restaurant which gave a line of sight to the block of villas where they were staying. The Millennium restaurant was considered too far for a group of eight children to walk.
13:25
GM: The kids were all running around and playing together. They were all chasing after Madeleine. She loved being chased.
13:25
RS: AS it turned out all of the kids loved it....
(Holiday started on April 28, 2007)
13:24
KM: Yes. It wasn't for any major reason, I just felt we had three very young children, and was thinking practically if it was worth all that effort and would be enjoyable.
13:24
RS: You didn't want to go to Portugal?
13:23
RS: You felt your family was complete?
KM: Yes we felt incredibly lucky.
13:22
KM: It's no secret that I always wanted to be a mother. I don't know if that stemmed from being an only child and wanted that feeling of family. So even when I was in school my friends were aware of it and in university, the medical prognosis book said 'Good mathematician, mother of six!'
13:22
RS: So she was a screamer right from the start?
GM: She was.
13:21
GM: She had McCann level volume there's no doubt about that!
13:21
KM: We sound like the most biased parents on the planet but she was just so compact with a nice round perfect head and when she opened her mouth the whole world knew she was with us.
13:21
RS: Where you both happy?
Both: Yes
GM: She was an incredibly beautiful baby
13:18
Gerry McCann: (about 3rd May, 2007, when Madeleine disappeared) She was sitting next to the pool with me and we were both paddling our feet and she was just so happy with her little hat and outfit on.
13:17 The show begins...
Rahni Sadler: When you come back to Portugal do you feel closer to Madaleine?
16:50
We'll bring you updates on this story as it develops over the next few hours, days (and weeks, and possibly years). For now, thanks for staying with us for the past few hours.
16:48
(Whatever the situation, it is still heartbreaking to hear Kate talk about her missing little girl, even 10 years on).
16:46
(However, how much its contents moves on the investigation remains to be seen. We do not know at this stage whether the mysterious 'somebody' referred to by Colin Sutton has been identified and that information kept under wraps, or whether it's another theory which requires following up from scratch).
16:42
(The story of Madeleine's disappearance remains a gripping, and from that perspective the documentary was thoroughly engaging).
16:41
(And there we have it folks, Australia's world exclusive documentary on the search for Madeleine McCann).
16:41
KM: Yes.
16:40
RS: You will keep looking forever.
16:40
KM: Whilst the situation remains as it is, Madeleine is out there and she needs us to find her.
16:40
KM: I don't believe any parent could. I don't believe we would ever reach a point where we think, 'Oh, we've done everything now'.
16:39
RS: You will not rest until you find your daughter and put your arms around her?
16:39
KM: It's every parent's worst nightmare, and it's touched everybody, I think.
16:39
Kate McCann: You haven't got a name, or a face, or anyone to blame.
16:38
Gerry McCann: People want to believe something like this can't happen to them. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice.....
16:38
CM: In some cases, missing persons appear out of the woodwork like the girls in Cleveland, Jaycee Lee Dugard, Natasha Kampusch, Elisabeth Fritzl, Shawn Hornbeck, and so it does give us hope.
16:38
CM: She's grown up now and is maybe speaking a foreign language.
16:37
Clarence Mitchell: In the absence of evidence that she's been harmed, there's (just as much reason) to believe she is alive and being held against her will.
16:36
Colin Sutton: Madeleine McCann could not have disappeared into thin air. Somebody must know what happened. Somebody knows the truth.
16:36
DB: It might be solved if Madeleine's body is found and there is evidence either in the body or where the body is found that would point to someone, otherwise it will never be solved because there is just no physical evidence we can use even to eliminate some of the theories.
16:35
RS: In your opinion, will this crime ever be solved?
16:35
Professor Dave Barclay: The reason there is so much interest in this case is that everyone of the explanations is implausible but we know that one of them must be correct.
16:50
We'll bring you updates on this story as it develops over the next few hours, days (and weeks, and possibly years). For now, thanks for staying with us for the past few hours.
16:48
(Whatever the situation, it is still heartbreaking to hear Kate talk about her missing little girl, even 10 years on).
16:46
(However, how much its contents moves on the investigation remains to be seen. We do not know at this stage whether the mysterious 'somebody' referred to by Colin Sutton has been identified and that information kept under wraps, or whether it's another theory which requires following up from scratch).
16:42
(The story of Madeleine's disappearance remains a gripping, and from that perspective the documentary was thoroughly engaging).
16:41
(And there we have it folks, Australia's world exclusive documentary on the search for Madeleine McCann).
16:41
KM: Yes.
16:40
RS: You will keep looking forever.
16:40
KM: Whilst the situation remains as it is, Madeleine is out there and she needs us to find her.
16:40
KM: I don't believe any parent could. I don't believe we would ever reach a point where we think, 'Oh, we've done everything now'.
16:39
RS: You will not rest until you find your daughter and put your arms around her?
16:39
KM: It's every parent's worst nightmare, and it's touched everybody, I think.
16:39
Kate McCann: You haven't got a name, or a face, or anyone to blame.
16:38
Gerry McCann: People want to believe something like this can't happen to them. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice.....
16:38
CM: In some cases, missing persons appear out of the woodwork like the girls in Cleveland, Jaycee Lee Dugard, Natasha Kampusch, Elisabeth Fritzl, Shawn Hornbeck, and so it does give us hope.
16:38
CM: She's grown up now and is maybe speaking a foreign language.
16:37
Clarence Mitchell: In the absence of evidence that she's been harmed, there's (just as much reason) to believe she is alive and being held against her will.
16:36
Colin Sutton: Madeleine McCann could not have disappeared into thin air. Somebody must know what happened. Somebody knows the truth.
16:36
DB: It might be solved if Madeleine's body is found and there is evidence either in the body or where the body is found that would point to someone, otherwise it will never be solved because there is just no physical evidence we can use even to eliminate some of the theories.
16:35
RS: In your opinion, will this crime ever be solved?
16:35
Professor Dave Barclay: The reason there is so much interest in this case is that everyone of the explanations is implausible but we know that one of them must be correct.
16:35
So far there have been 8,685 sightings across 101 countries.
16:34
(The final part of the documentary is coming up now).
16:34
(How much further Colin Sutton's claim takes the investigation, we know not).
16:33
(As opposed to Detective Amaral's claim that MI5 is involved in Madeleine's disappearance).
16:31 A quick look at what we've heard so far
(It appears the 'significant' lead in the case which documentary makers claimed to have uncovered is former Scotland Yard investigator Colin Sutton's claim that 'there is somebody who worked in the Ocean Club complex who it's felt may have some knowledge or be of assistance').
16:27
(We're going to have a very quick break before we come back with the final part of Gone).
16:26
GM: It's caused a lot of upset and damaged the search.
16:25
RS: Do you find it offensive that people are carrying on in this way?
16:25
GM: I think the least said about a Detective Amaral the better.
16:25
RS (to Gerry McCann): Detective Amaral believes in some big cover up with MI5, so what do you think of those claims?
16:24
DA: Well I'm not British so I can't really answer that.
16:24
RS: Do you really think the British Government would allow its agents to cover up a crime?
16:24
Detective Amaral: I'm not saying that much, but I'm saying for sure they have the involvement in the situation.
16:23
(Is this the big revelation...?)
16:23
RS: So you think MI5 helped to conceal the body?
16:23
RS: But Detective Amaral had an extraordinary conspiracy theory as to why the body had never been found.
16:22
PL: Maybe in 5/10 years time, when somebody wants to reuse the well. They would clean it out and her bones would be found. That's the only way.
16:22
RS: If Madeleine's body was dumped down a well, what are the chances of it being found?
16:21
Paul Luckman: There are vast quantities of places. There are 400, 500, 600 wells that still exist and you would be knowledge.
16:20
RS: If she was killed in the area, where could her body be?
16:20
Professor Dave Barclay: It was the easiest place to hide a body I've ever visited in my life.
16:19
RS: You visited the area, so where could Madeleine's body be?
16:18
CS: It would be very easy to secrete something there and be very confident it wouldn't be found.
16:18
CS: It's almost impossible without specific intelligence that would allow you to focus on a specific area. It's a large area of low population and scrubland, of ancient wells, and there are areas where humans don't go from one decade to the next.
16:17
RS: How difficult would it be to find a body in the area?
16:17
Colin Sutton (former Scotland Yard investigator who has repeatedly investigated the Praia Da Luz area where Madeleine disappeared): It's felt there is somebody who worked in the Ocean Club complex who it's felt may have some knowledge or be of assistance.
16:16
RS: Scotland Yard has recently been given an injection of cash to follow up their strongest lead.
16:16
Professor Dave Barclay: I think the Portuguese police and tourist board would have been quite keen not to feature the number of burglaries in the Algarve, and the fact there were random paedophiles snatching children from their beds would have been a disincentive for families to go there, so I think that's possibly an explanation as to how the Met recently found more evidence of children being snatched.
16:15
RS: In the months before Madeleine disappeared, there was a four-fold increase in robberies in the area. There were two unsolved burglaries in the (...) block in which the McCanns stayed.
16:12
Clarence Mitchell: There had been a number of crimes on the Algarve. There had been attempted break-ins when children had been asleep, and intruders had been disturbed and fled from children's bedrooms in some cases.
16:12
RS: Two men were seen on the balcony of an empty unit two doors up from the McCanns, and four hours before Madeleine disappeared an unidentified man was seen loitering in the stairwell of the McCanns' apartment block.
16:11
RS: In the period before Madeleine disappeared, there were several sightings of suspicious men loitering in the area. A neighbour reported bogus charity collectors door knocking villas, a school girl saw a fair haired man casing the McCanns' apartment from multiple directions, a British holidaymaker also reported a suspicious man lurking inside their apartment.
16:10
AR: What we have got here is an intruder with a very unhealthy interest in young white girls whilst they are in their beds on their holidays.
16:09
RS: On six of those occasions, the intruder either got into bed with or sexually assaulted a child.
16:09
RS: Between 2004 and 2010 within a 60km radius of where Madeleine disappeared, there were 12 crimes involving an intruder breaking into properties of UK nationals in Portugal.
16:08
RS: What happened to Madeleine might not have been an isolated incident.
16:07
Detective Inspector Andy Redwood: There is a possibility that Madeleine is still alive.
16:06
RS: But in 2013, British detectives were given permission to reopen the case. All the evidence the Portuguese found was handed to Scotland Yard and the results were astounding.
16:06
Professor Dave Barclay: There is no piece of solid ground to stand on, nothing you can use to say which of the competing theories is the right one.
16:05
RS: In August 2008, the Portuguese case was closed with no solid evidence as to what happened to Madeleine.
16:04
(We're back with part 4 in a few seconds).
15:59
(We're taking a very quick break while the ads roll. We'll be back in a couple of minutes with part four of this world exclusive documentary).
15:58
GM: So no. That's an emphatic no.
15:57
GM: No, never. There's nothing with any logic. You would have to start with why, how, when. There's simply nothing to suggest anything.
15:57
RS (to Gerry McCann): Did you kill your daughter?
15:56
PB: They'd been walking on the (beach) the whole time. It's possible they got lucky.
15:56
RS: It was their first time in Portugal, so how would they have known where to hide a body?
15:54
PB: It's hard to know where they really looked. That's the whole problem.
15:53
RS: And do you really think the (highest) number of Portuguese police ever involved in searching for someone would not have found the body?
15:52
PB: Whether it was found originally, I do not know.
15:52
PB: There are places easily accessible on a beach where you can wrap a body in a crevice and hide it well without anybody knowing.
15:51
RS: Do you honestly believe that Gerry McCann carried his daughter's body to the beach, hid her so well for three weeks, then moved it to a better hiding spot. How is that possible?
15:49
PB: I've seen cases where people don't break. They stick with it because they are afraid of the repercussions.
15:48
RS: It seems unlikely that nobody would break after all of these years....
15:47
PB: Friends will do that. They will support each other, like a boyfriend saying he spent the night with his girlfriend when he didn't.
15:47
(In her book, which has been banned by Amazon, Pat Brown writes that the McCanns' friends on holiday with them in Portugal helped them to hide the body).
15:46
RS: So you are suggesting that Kate and Gerry's friends, six of whom are doctors, have come up with a lie and kept it for 10 years?
15:45
PB: There are children who have come to harm by their parents' neglect or abuse, and the parents have tried to cover the crime up by moving the body some place else and claim the child had gone missing or been abducted.
15:45
PB: I am saying what I've seen in other cases around the world.
15:44
RS: Are you (seriously) accusing Kate and Gerry McCann of being more concerned about being accused of being negligent than of their daughter who had just died?
15:44
PB: These are three very horrible things to happen. The right thing to do is to call the police, tell them, 'We gave her some medicine, she fell, and died, have mercy on us'.
15:43
PB: You've got a disaster situation in which you think you are going to go to prison in Portugal. 'My children are going to go into custody and we are both going to lose our professions.'
15:42
Pat Brown (criminal profiler and author): The McCanns are lying and hiding the truth.
15:41
Professor Dave Barclay: It could have been a complete accident that she got out of the villa and walked out into the street and got knocked down by somebody. That's an incentive for him to pick up the body and conceal it somewhere.
15:41
RS: Another theory is that Madeleine woke up and walked outside in search of her parents.
15:40
RS: There was another sighting by an Irish family at 10pm, five minutes before Madeleine was reported missing, of a man carrying a small child towards the beach. The suspect had never been found despite photofits.
15:39
RS: One of the McCanns' friends saw a man carrying a child five minutes before Madeleine was reported missing, but the man was (later discovered to be) a tourist carrying his daughter home from the department's crèche.
15:38
Gerry McCann: People mentioned to me that she was snatched to order and I always replied, 'Don't be so ridiculous'. But compared to everything else that's been said, that's a possibility.
15:38
PL: If they were targeting a blonde child (and they had been observing the family and found what they wanted) it could have been an opportunist snatch.
15:36
RS: There have since been numerous other theories about what happened to Madeleine, including that she was taken by a child trafficking syndicate.
15:35
PL: I don't want to be critical of Portuguese police, and I know the effort they put into it, but I think he was somewhat fixated on one single solution when clearly you had to look more widely.
15:35
PL: It's a very difficult one.
15:34
RS (to reporter Paul Luckman): Why wasn't Detective Amaral removed from the case?
15:33
RS: Three months after he led the investigation, Detective Amaral was relieved of his position, but never moved from the investigation entirely.
15:33
Professor Dave Barclay: I don't put much faith in cadaver dogs because they will bark at any decomposing material, human, animals, badger, or even meat if you have spilled some from the boot of your car and then it's then gone off. I put no faith in cadaver dogs.
15:32
RS: But the substance behind the sofa could not be proved to be human blood, let alone Madeleine's blood, and the evidence of the cadaver dogs was questionable.
15:31
RS: Detective Amaral also had the sniffer dogs search the McCanns' apartment, where he claims they found evidence of a cadaver being stored, and behind the sofa the dogs found bodily fluids that were naked to the human eye.
15:29
CM: Are they going to hold their own daughter's body for two weeks and then put her in the boot of a vehicle for the world's media? It's laughable.
15:29
CM: No, that's the point. It could have come from Sean or Amelie.
15:28
RS (to Clarence Mitchell): Could the DNA categorically prove that it belonged to Madeleine?
15:28
KM: It's ludicrous and ridiculous that we hid her so well that nobody has found her, and we hired a car weeks later to move her body.
15:27
(He believes they hid her body at the beach and used a rental car to move it to a more remote place).
15:27
GA: The fluid is a 90 per cent match with the fluid from Madaleine McCann.
15:26
RS: He claimed the dogs detected Madeleine's DNA in a car hired by the McCanns weeks after Madaleine disappeared.
15:25
RS: Detective Amaral brought in two police sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, from the UK.
15:25
GM: (...) If she died when we were in the apartment, why would we cover that up?
15:24
GM: Well, when did she die? The only time she was unattended was when we were at dinner, so how could we have disposed of the body? It's just nonsense.
15:23
GM: The ludicrous thing (theory) is that Madeleine died in the apartment by an accident and we hid the body.
15:23
(Gerry McCann reflects on that theory, calling it 'ludicrous').
15:22
Detective Gonçalo Amara: In 2007, we believed she died in the apartment.
15:22
(OK, we're back LIVE with part three of the programme).
15:17
(There's going to be a very short break now, while the ads roll, before we go live with part three of the programme).
15:16
RS: So if it was an intruder, who was it, and why did they take Madeleine?
15:16
DB: Standard practice in reasonably good-class burglars to make an exit is to open the back door as well so that if somebody comes in the front door you can run out.
15:15
DB: It's quite possible the window could have been opened by a burglar from the inside to get away if somebody came in from the other door.
15:15
RS: He (Dave Barclay) travelled to Portugal and concluded the window could have been opened from the inside....
15:11
Prof Dave Barclay: It seems to me they became more suspicious of the McCanns because of that.
15:08
RS (to PROFESSOR DAVE BARCLAY, a forensic investigator with 45 years of experience): How much confusion did this open window cause Portuguese police?
15:06
(It's well documented that the McCanns' holiday apartment was at the end of the block and looked out onto the street).
15:05
KM: ...but this shutter could be raised from the outside.
15:05
KM: We thought we had to use the pulley mechnanism on the inside to open the shutters and we assumed it was a protective barrier against the outside...
15:03
GM: I went outside (after it was discovered Madeleine was missing) and was totally aghast I could lift the shutter from outside.
15:02
GM: We've left the shutter down all week, the window was down all week, and the curtain was down because we wanted to keep the room nice and cool and dark.
15:01
Gerry McCann: I'm not sure now, but on the night, the way Kate found the room and the way we were able to raise the shutters, I felt that's how the abductor had got in.
14:58
RS: Investigators found no evidence that the window had been forced open or that it had been used to enter or exit the apartment.
14:58
GA: Yes, we think it's a lie.
14:57
RS (to Detective Gonçalo Amaral): Do you believe the McCanns are lying about the window and when it was opened?
14:56
RS: From the beginning, police believed the McCanns had opened the window (of the children's bedroom at their holiday apartment) to make it look like a kidnapping.
14:55
CM: Even now, people come up to me and say things that are completely untrue, but they've read it on Facebook and seen it on Twitter so it must go true.
14:54
CM: So that appears in a paper on Monday in Portugal and it's wrong (factually incorrect). And then it reappears in the Daily Mail on the Tuesday, and then on the Wednesday the mainstream Portuguese papers would rerun the story from the established, illustrious Daily Mail. It was a spin cycle of lunacy.
14:52
Clarence Mitchell: If we denied anything, it gave the media a story because we denied it, so half the time we ignored stuff and didn't give it credibility by commenting on it.
14:51
GM: It was incredibly hard because we were having a trial by media, and there was misinformation and smears against us, and the threat of breaking judicial secrecy if we talked about details of the investigation.
14:50
RS: That's because, under Portuguese law, they were forbidden from speaking out in their own defence.
14:50
KM: It was very difficult to counter any negativity that appeared in the media in Portugal.
14:49
KM: We need people to help us by looking for her, so at that point we felt very alone and that we were fighting a million battles, to be honest.
14:49
KM: And the hardest thing, and the most distressing thing, is that that impacts on the search for Madeleine.
14:49
KM: The UK Government and authorities withdrew and there were doubts amongst sectors of the general public, so we felt hampered then.
14:48
KM: Suddenly doors began to close.
14:48
RS (to Kate and Gerry): Did you feel like catapults against an army, and helpless?
14:47
RS: Four months after Madeleine disappeared, the McCanns became suspects.
14:46
GA: There is no hint or proof the child was kidnapped. On the contrary, there are hints the parents were negligent, and there are hints they were hiding the body.
14:46
RS: The lead investigator thought the McCanns had sedated Madeleine who had fallen and died whilst they were at dinner.
14:45
GA: We were suspicious that an accident could have led to the death of Madeleine.
14:44
GA: The McCann couple.
14:44
RS (to Detective Gonçalo Amaral): Who do you think are the most likely suspects in this case?
14:43
RS: From the beginning, the search was led by Detective Gonçalo Amaral. From early on, he had his suspicions about the McCanns.
14:42
GM: And I have to say I couldn't really console her because I was paddling frantically below the surface.
14:42
GM: My mum said that for several days Kate was howling like wild animal with grief and despair in the bedroom.
14:41
KM: Now I've learned that people judge very readily, and what you see on camera isn't the full story.
14:40
KM: I don't think I had a day for eighteen months that didn't have a long period crying.
14:40
RS (speaking to Kate and Gerry again): People described you as cold and poker faced....
14:38
CM: They were warned about this, and were told by the British authorities, 'If you can try not to show overt emotion'.
14:38
CM: The British police told the McCanns (if) they made any media appearances that perpetrators of abducted children will watch the media coverage to get a sexual kick out of the parents' distress and tears they have caused.
14:36
CM: Once it was reported that the family weren't with the children when Madeleine went missing, then the judgment squad kicked in and they were 'guilty of neglect' at the very least.
14:35
(The McCanns live in the upmarket Leicestershire village of Rothley. Gerry McCann is a top cardiologist).
14:34
CLARENCE MITCHELL (Has represented the family for 10 years). This is something that just didn't fit the stereotypical ideal that many people have, wrongly, that something like this can't happen to a family like them.
14:33
PL: We could be in a field looking for a little girl, but they could be halfway across Spain even before we had set up roadblocks. There are motorways all the way through to North Africa.
14:32
PL: One policeman said to me, 'If the child is abducted, then one hour later she's in Spain'.
14:31
RS: It wasn't until 4:30am the next day, six and a half hours after Madaleine disappeared, that roadblocks were put in place.
14:30
PL: Nobody even considered it could be anything else.
14:30
PL: No it wasn't, and the Portuguese police will freely admit they trampled all over the apartment because they were looking for the little girl.
14:29
RS: So at the beginning it wasn't considered a crime or a crime scene?
14:28
RS: Tramping through the rooms and pool for any noticeable sign of Madeleine. In the process, valuable evidence was destroyed, and clues lost forever.
14:27
RS: From the start the police investigation was flawed. Instead of closing off the apartment as a crime scene, dozens of people came and went.
14:27
PL: Yes, interacting to some extent. I think the police were trying to take it very gently. The whole focus was on a little girl who had got lost...wandered away, and got lost in a strange place.
14:25
RS: With police?
14:25
PL: She was outside.
14:25
RS: What was Kate doing? Was she inside or outside the apartment?
14:25
PL: What mum wouldn't be out of her mind with the thought that she'd lost a child.
14:24
PL: She was very distressed and being comforted.
14:24
RS: And Kate looked out of her mind......
14:23
PL: I saw Kate McCann with one of the friends with his arm around her comforting her. I've got a photograph of her.
14:23
RS: When did you first see the McCanns?
14:22
Paul was one of the first journalists on the scene.
14:22
PL: That was the focus of what they were looking for: a child who had wandered away.
14:21
PAUL LUCKMAN (Reporter & Editor of Portugal News): They were looking for a child who had wandered away. That's what everybody thought must have happened.
14:21
RS: The police joined the search two hours later.
14:20
RS: The Ocean Club Resort's manager mobilised 60 staff to search the club, beach, and surrounds.
14:19
GM: Yes, I just thought 'She can't be taken'. That just doesn't happen but Kate said, 'She's gone someone's taken her'.
14:18
RS: Did you think there must be some confusion, she must be there (in the apartment) somewhere?
14:17
GM: I thought 'How can she be gone?'. It was the furthest thing in my mind and I was saying that to Kate as we were both running.
14:16
GM: I saw that Kate was clearly distraught (she ran screaming to Gerry) so I jumped up in disbelief.
14:16
(OK, here we go with the next part of documentary).
14:15
(We hope, for the family's sake, that the programme makers really have come up with a significant new lead that will help end their nightmare. But we have heard that line many times before, haven't we?).
14:11
(Stay with us for the next part of the programme, coming up imminently).
14:05
(Madeleine was just three years old when she vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal’s Praia da Luz nearly 10 years ago, on May 3, 2007).
14:02 Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann
13:59
(After 10 years of investigation, it's very difficult to imagine what the 'significant' new lead in the case could be).
13:57
(Show makers said the lead they had uncovered could bring the search for the missing youngster closer to an end).
13:56
(A teaser video for the show, Australia's Channel 7's Sunday Night programme, suggested a significant new lead in the case has been unearthed. We are still waiting for an indication of what that might be).
13:54
(There has been no indication yet of the new lead programme makers claim to have uncovered. They have come in for criticism for refusing to disclose before the programme aired the information they said they had found).
13:52
Kate went to check on the children at 10.05pm. The window of the children's bedroom was open, and Madeleine was gone. Kate said she 'knew' her daughter had been taken. She ran back to the tapas restaurant, screaming at Gerry and their friends: 'Madeleine's gone, someone's taken her.'
13:49
At 8.30pm, Kate and Gerry went to meet their friends at a nearby tapas restaurant from which their apartment block was visible. Gerry checked on the children 9.05pm. All was well.
13:47
On the night Madeleine went missing, the youngster was tired. She had cuddles from her mum and was read stories, before going to bed at 7pm, along with the twins who were in cots.
13:45
Kate said she did not want to go on the holiday initially because she feared it would be a lot of hassle, having thre children. But it turned out to be a very happy time for them all.
13:44 What's happened so far?
Kate and Gerry McCann have been speaking about what was initially a 'wonderful' holiday in Portugal, with their three children, Madeleine and twins Sean and Amelie.
13:42
The programme has paused for an ad break.
13:41
KM: 'Madeleine's gone, someone's taken her.'
13:40
KM: And as soon as I saw Gerry and our friends in the Tapas Bar I was just screaming.
13:38
KM: Then I just legged it out of the apartment.
13:37
KM: I knew in my heart she'd been taken...but maybe I was hoping she would be hiding in a cupboard.
13:35
KM: I whizzed around the apartment in ten seconds. Again, I don't know what I was expecting.
13:33
KM: I ran to the window and had no idea what I was expecting to see.
13:33
KM: Then I just knew she'd been taken.
13:32
KM: The curtains and the the window were swung open into the room. It felt like the shutter had been pulled all the way up and the windows pulled across.
13:31
RS: At 10:05pm it was Kate's turn to check on the (children). She estimates it took 30-45 seconds to walk from the Tapas bar on the other side of the pool to their apartment number 5A. She walked into the kids bedroom and felt a gust of wind.
13:30
GM: I just lingered for a few seconds and thought about how beautiful she was and that was the last time I saw her. Then my world my shattered.
13:30
GM: It was a moment when I thought I was so lucky to have three children, having a wonderful holiday, the kids were really enjoying it.
13:29
RS: Madeleine was asleep in a single bed in the front room where her parents kept the windows closed and locked. The twins Sean and Amelie were in travel cots by her side. At 9:05pm, Gerry returned to check on the children.
13:28
RS: The children were in bed by 7pm, the parents left for the Tapas bar at 8:30pm The Tapas bar was across the pool from their apartment. The McCanns apartment was at the end of the block, the most accessible from the street. The front door was locked but the sliding patio doors at the back were left unlocked to allow east access to check on the children.
13:28
KM: She liked wearing my engagement ring, so she was sitting there wearing that and then we had some treats, some crisps and biscuits, then we did the usual toilet, teeth, and went through to the bedroom and read another story, 'If you are happy and you know it'.
13:27
KM: Madeleine had had a very full day. She'd been to the beach and been on a mini boat or a dinghy, and..my memory of that evening is very vivid. She was very tired and was just cuddled up on my knee and read a story.
13:27
RS: Thursday, May 3 was the second last night....
13:27
KM: If it had occurred to us that there was any risk at all, it just wouldn't have happened.
13:26
KM: Yes that's right. We never thought anything else. It was a case of we can eat here that would be ideal, the kids won't be disruptive, we can get them sorted, and then eat. It was as simple as that.
13:26
RS: It never for one second came across your mind that something could happen.....
13:26
The couples (McCanns' friends) and the McCanns made a block booking for six nights at the local Tapas Restaurant which gave a line of sight to the block of villas where they were staying. The Millennium restaurant was considered too far for a group of eight children to walk.
13:25
GM: The kids were all running around and playing together. They were all chasing after Madeleine. She loved being chased.
13:25
RS: AS it turned out all of the kids loved it....
(Holiday started on April 28, 2007)
13:24
KM: Yes. It wasn't for any major reason, I just felt we had three very young children, and was thinking practically if it was worth all that effort and would be enjoyable.
13:24
RS: You didn't want to go to Portugal?
13:23
RS: You felt your family was complete?
KM: Yes we felt incredibly lucky.
13:22
KM: It's no secret that I always wanted to be a mother. I don't know if that stemmed from being an only child and wanted that feeling of family. So even when I was in school my friends were aware of it and in university, the medical prognosis book said 'Good mathematician, mother of six!'
13:22
RS: So she was a screamer right from the start?
GM: She was.
13:21
GM: She had McCann level volume there's no doubt about that!
13:21
KM: We sound like the most biased parents on the planet but she was just so compact with a nice round perfect head and when she opened her mouth the whole world knew she was with us.
13:21
RS: Where you both happy?
Both: Yes
GM: She was an incredibly beautiful baby
13:18
Gerry McCann: (about 3rd May, 2007, when Madeleine disappeared) She was sitting next to the pool with me and we were both paddling our feet and she was just so happy with her little hat and outfit on.
13:17 The show begins...
Rahni Sadler: When you come back to Portugal do you feel closer to Madaleine?
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Thank you, Niklas. I preferred reading your post, rather than watching the broadcast ...
These 2 make my toes curl and, actually, the interviewer too :-(
These 2 make my toes curl and, actually, the interviewer too :-(
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Thanks very much for posting niklasericson
What a load of s**** it is. It is just all old stuff/interviews all cobbled together, by the looks of it, I haven't managed to read it all, but it is old interviews. What on earth are they calling this new for?
What a load of s**** it is. It is just all old stuff/interviews all cobbled together, by the looks of it, I haven't managed to read it all, but it is old interviews. What on earth are they calling this new for?
Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
Well the Sun and maybe others saying the new stuff Goncalo Amaral spoke about is rather old hat. Here it is in newspaper 3 years ago 2014...
Doh, doh doh......
OLD STORY FROM 2014
EXCLUSIVE: MI5 spies know what happened to Maddie McCann, claims Portuguese detective
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Jun 29, 2014
Doh, doh doh......
OLD STORY FROM 2014
EXCLUSIVE: MI5 spies know what happened to Maddie McCann, claims Portuguese detective
MI5 AGENTS know what happened to missing Madeleine McCann but are covering it up, claims former Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral.
James MurrayPUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Jun 29, 2014
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Just forced myself to watch part one. Which bed do these muppets think she was in?? Trash. Pure #McBollocks. #McCann
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The show was billed as a "public affairs show" by @rahnisadler. #lie #unethical #misleading #farfromit #mccann
The show was billed as a "public affairs show" by @rahnisadler. #lie #unethical #misleading #farfromit #mccann
Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
Unbelievable. But I fear one thing is true - we'll never know until, if ever, there's a death-bed confession.
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Re: Australian TV show Sunday Night with Pat Brown
Still don't know what this major breakthrough is, this shocking evidence that wasn't going to be handed in until programme aired Is the case solved then
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The so called journalists are cowards.
"Did you kill your daughter"?
What kind of answer did they expected?
Why don't they put some pressure on them with questions like:
*You were on a family holiday with two cameras and you released 4 photos of Madeleine,is that all photos you took on Madeleine that week?
*Your spokesman CM confirmed in media that you visit Zavial beach.
Did you visit Zavial beach on Monday, yes or no?
...unt zu weiter.
Jeezez.
"Did you kill your daughter"?
What kind of answer did they expected?
Why don't they put some pressure on them with questions like:
*You were on a family holiday with two cameras and you released 4 photos of Madeleine,is that all photos you took on Madeleine that week?
*Your spokesman CM confirmed in media that you visit Zavial beach.
Did you visit Zavial beach on Monday, yes or no?
...unt zu weiter.
Jeezez.
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Aha straight from the horses mouth, so to speak..........
THERE IS NO NEW EVIDENCE - well would you believe it we have been told fairytales yet again, little round porkies.
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That's Colin - so what was the new evidence ?
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There is none. Distorted by edit my answer to what line of enquiry might remain for Met so it appeared as if it were something new.
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Nothing of the sort. Sensationalist trailing and some pretty unethical editing.
THERE IS NO NEW EVIDENCE - well would you believe it we have been told fairytales yet again, little round porkies.
Mark Williams-ThomasVerified account @mwilliamsthomas · 2
That's Colin - so what was the new evidence ?
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There is none. Distorted by edit my answer to what line of enquiry might remain for Met so it appeared as if it were something new.
Colin Sutton @colinsutton · 4h4 hours ago
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Nothing of the sort. Sensationalist trailing and some pretty unethical editing.
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New evidence was simply a ruse, a pack of lies to attract an audience. Disgraceful @RahniSadler
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If that is the standard of journalism accepted in Australia then God help you. Atrocious biased reporting by @RahniSadler
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New evidence was simply a ruse, a pack of lies to attract an audience. Disgraceful @RahniSadler
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If that is the standard of journalism accepted in Australia then God help you. Atrocious biased reporting by @RahniSadler
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Verdi obviously didn't graduate from charm school.
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Wouldn't waste money suing just to save face. Far simpler to avoid dubious media invitations in the first place.
Can't blame everyone else for your naivety.
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Wouldn't waste money suing just to save face. Far simpler to avoid dubious media invitations in the first place.
Can't blame everyone else for your naivety.
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I don't think she graduated from law school either because I'm sure when Pat Brown gets the apology she deserves that will be the end of the matter.
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Freedom wrote:Verdi obviously didn't graduate from charm school.
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Post by Verdi Today at 21:21
Wouldn't waste money suing just to save face. Far simpler to avoid dubious media invitations in the first place.
Can't blame everyone else for your naivety.
It's a good point, but made by a twat.
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I don't agree that it's a good point.
It's just in my opinion part of the general putting Pat Brown down campaign since it became apparent that she doesn't go along with the obsession over there to discredit the Smiths at all costs.
I'm not saying that constructive criticism of anyone and their theories isn't allowed but that hardly describes anything on CMoMM, does it?
When you think how many so-called professional people - whether journalists or ex-police private investigators - have made absolute fools of themselves with their ridiculous theories as to what happened in the McCann case, Pat Brown deserves a lot of credit for stating her views.
She does agree by the way that she should have made more enquiries about the Australian TV channel but she was busy and unfortunately accepted the information given that Rahni Sadler was an investigative journalist on a current affairs programme.
It's just in my opinion part of the general putting Pat Brown down campaign since it became apparent that she doesn't go along with the obsession over there to discredit the Smiths at all costs.
I'm not saying that constructive criticism of anyone and their theories isn't allowed but that hardly describes anything on CMoMM, does it?
When you think how many so-called professional people - whether journalists or ex-police private investigators - have made absolute fools of themselves with their ridiculous theories as to what happened in the McCann case, Pat Brown deserves a lot of credit for stating her views.
She does agree by the way that she should have made more enquiries about the Australian TV channel but she was busy and unfortunately accepted the information given that Rahni Sadler was an investigative journalist on a current affairs programme.
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Not a jot of kindness in Verdi`s soul is there. The only emanations from that woman/man are to belittle, demean, and put down in some way. What an embittered person.
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