Coronavirus - and all manner of weird things evolving from it

So now we know why Dr Andrew Wakefield did not stand a chance when he dared to question the safety of vaccines. It's a debate that Bill Gates does not want us to have.  I would like to see evidence of Gate's claim here that Wakefield created a 'fake paper' which created a 'lie' that killed 'thousands and thousands' of kids. Which children died because they didn't get pertussis or measles vaccine? I'm not talking about children in third world - that is a completely separate issue.

Which children in the UK are dead today because their mothers listened to Andrew Wakefield? Wakefield and his team came across something that caused them concern and suggested further studies. This debate was effectively closed down.

Autism and other auto- immune diseases continue to rocket alongside all the other major causes of ill-health such as diabetes, heart disease, obesity, cancer and respiratory disease. A vaccine for coronavirus, if is ever materializes, will do nothing to address the major underlying causes of ill-health. Flu vaccines are considered around 30% to 60% effective at best, without taking into account any risk factors or adverse reactions.

“Dr. Wakefield has been shown to have used absolutely fraudulent data. He had a financial interest in some lawsuits, he created a fake paper, the journal allowed it to run. All the other studies were done, showed no connection whatsoever again and again and again. So it’s an absolute lie that has killed thousands of kids. Because the mothers who heard that lie, many of them didn’t have their kids take either pertussis or measles vaccine, and their children are dead today. And so the people who go and engage in those anti-vaccine efforts — you know, they, they kill children. It’s a very sad thing, because these vaccines are important.”


http://outbreaknewstoday.com/bill-gates-has-some-harsh-words-about-the-wakefield-study-98448/

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/seasonal-influenza/prevention-and-control/vaccine-effectiveness

We can see in the language Gates uses and the lack of nuance about such a complex subject how fear and emotion are the driving forces behind this massive vaccine agenda which is worth billions.

Gates' control and influence over education appears to have a great many critics. Well worth exploring this topic and reading what teachers and those in the educational establishment have to say about Gates' control over education.

Money sure talks - health, education, public health policy, economic policy, 'humanitarianism' et al. Tentacles everywhere under the cloak of 'philanthropy'.


https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/just-visiting/bill-gates-please-stay-away-higher-education


https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2020/05/08/why-bill-gates-is-not-the-man-to-reimagine-new-york-education/

A little bit more light reading. I think there are indications this virus was affecting people in the UK in the latter months of last year. The military world games were held in Wuhan in October 2019. This seems as likely a source of transmission as any other, with 10,000 competitors from over 100 countries competing over 9 days.

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1094347/world-military-games-illness-covid-19


https://theintercept.com/2020/03/13/big-pharma-drug-pricing-coronavirus-profits/?comments=1

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8327047/More-competitors-reveal-ill-World-Military-Games.html

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-face-coverings-mandatory-public-22139818#source=push


No way Pedro!

Freedom wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-face-coverings-mandatory-public-22139818#source=push


No way Pedro!

It just gets sillier and sillier, really. People have been scared witless and not been given the full information. Now we all have to deal with the fall-out from this.



https://londonreal.tv/how-the-coronavirus-pandemic-is-the-biggest-scam-ever-perpetrated-on-the-human-race-dr-sherri-tenpenny/

Hmmm, this from a journalist - the virus is back...….











Peter Henley

@BBCPeterH

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A&E consultant on duty at a big London hospital tells me today “the virus is back”

Has anyone said that it had gone away?

Freedom wrote:Has anyone said that it had gone away?

Well judging by the behaviour of some then yes, they think it has gone.  The protests for one.

He is saying it is back, and probably will be in large numbers the amount of socialising going on.  Now they want to open bars are restaurants.  Why on earth they didn't hold off for another couple of weeks to make it nearly impossible to meet someone with it and the R below 0.04 is beyond me.  Another week or two of pain would have generated better results, then this flaring up all over again.

Madeleine McCann's grandmother dies of coronavirus in fresh heartache for family

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-madeleine-mccanns-grandmother-dies-22178118#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare

Eileen McCann, aged 80, passed away last month from a coronavirus-related death just weeks before German police broke bombshell news that they believe Maddie is dead.

I wonder what a 'coronavirus-related' death is?

A death from something else having tested positive for coronavirus which might not have contributed to  the death?

A death from a cause that resembles in some way the coronavirus - eg: flu, pneumonia?

A death that just so happened to occur at this particular period in time?

Or what?

The 'news' the Madeleine McCann is dead is hardly 'bombshell' however much spin the MSM might put on it.  

IMO!

candyfloss wrote:Hmmm, this from a journalist - the virus is back...….











Peter Henley

@BBCPeterH

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A&E consultant on duty at a big London hospital tells me today “the virus is back”

No, it is not. Consultant at St Georges's in acute emergency care says coronavirus patients a non-event (as in ill because of coronavirus as opposed to having something else and testing positive or having symptoms consistent with the virus but having something else) and this has been the situation for quite some time - a month or more.

Kingston Hospital was never remotely overwhelmed - was very quiet.

Bill Gates telling the world what should happen.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/InKOcevDWhRA/

I have heard reports that some deaths are being attributed to Coronavirus when patients tested positive for it but they had no symptoms of it and died of unrelated conditions. 

Perish the possibly paranoid thought that the powers that be want us to believe that it's far more lethal than it actually is and thus justifies the restrictions on our freedom. 

I never thought my user name would be as appropriate now as it was when I chose it!

Changes from tomorrow. My favourite "boutiques" - Primark and charity shops - will be open, yippee.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-lockdown-changes-things-you-22164286#source=push

Freedom wrote:I have heard reports that some deaths are being attributed to Coronavirus when patients tested positive for it but they had no symptoms of it and died of unrelated conditions. 

Perish the possibly paranoid thought that the powers that be want us to believe that it's far more lethal than it actually is and thus justifies the restrictions on our freedom. 

I never thought my user name would be as appropriate now as it was when I chose it!

This is the problem with the statistics. The vast majority of people are elderly and have underlying health conditions. How many of these people would have got ill anyway and needed hospital treatment and sadly might have died even with appropriate treatment? Unless we are given a denominator figure - as in, what number of people on average die on any day/week/month/year, then how can anyone make sense of the figures?

Deaths per year from diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, cancer, strokes etc will TEND to occur in elderly populations. Of course not always. Younger people can and do die from these conditions as well, of course, as accidents and from suicide, sadly.  Some people, sadly, die at the hands of others whether deliberately - as in murder, or by mistake - as in car accidents, accidents at home/work or medical accidents and mistakes which are not unheard of. The Coronavirus Act provides indemnity for clinical negligence. It also relaxes regulations around certification of deaths. The Act also eases the regulations relating to the registration and certification of deaths and still-births, and permissions to conduct cremations.

The Act remove the requirement that any inquest into a death from coronavirus be held with a jury in England, Wales and Northern Ireland (as is required by law for other notifiable diseases).

provide indemnity for clinical negligence liabilities arising from NHS activities carried out for the purposes of dealing with, or because of, the coronavirus outbreak, where there is no existing indemnity arrangement in place. This will ensure that those providing healthcare service activity across the UK are legally protected for the work they are required to undertake as part of the COVID-19 response. This is in line with and will complement existing arrangements

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-bill-what-it-will-do/what-the-coronavirus-bill-will-do

Today marks the start of compulsory face masks in the U K. Off I trotted and donned one when I got to the station. I soon discovered two insurmountable problems for me - they make your face very hot and make it difficult to breathe. I took it off on the train - I wasn't the only one - and got off unchallenged. However, on a bus, I was and I replied honestly that I had tried but couldn't breathe with one. Ironically, the driver didn't have one!

P.S. Having mentioned this on Facebook, I've been advised to get the sort of mask that builders wear as they are better for allowing people to breathe. I must admit that I don't fancy being pounced on by sheeples who believe what they're told and think that anyone without a mask is endangering others.

I'm just going to use a lightweight bandana-type thing I think. The other problem with masks is that you can't hear what people are saying.

I notice Boris is now encouraging everyone to shop 'with confidence'.  Why would anyone have any confidence in what he says?

How can masks affect your hearing?

Freedom wrote:How can masks affect your hearing?

When someone else is wearing a mask, it's sometimes difficult to hear what they say - the sound is muffled! So two people trying to communicate when both are wearing masks can be tricky! And because you can't read the facial expressions, that makes it even more difficult.

Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that the whole scamdemic is about money. Huge profits for certain sectors such as pharmaceuticals, Amazon, Microsoft (I notice they are doing the soft-wear for online school classes) google and the like. But particularly pharmaceuticals and vaccines, which of course are Bill Gate's passions, along with computer systems. It really is Bill Gate's baby, this virus. He's been pregnant with excitement about it for years and finally it's been born.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was released 'accidentally on purpose' just to test-drive all the global health solutions that Gates' adores meddling with, along with educational systems. I hadn't realized the degree to which our own government has bought into the Gates' agenda. The UK is one of the largest contributors to Gavi, the vaccine alliance. I think this latter factor may partly account for the UK's pitiful response to the virus.  The irony of throwing billions into research for a vaccine and drugs for a disease which seems very likely to burn out completely when there are far more serious public health issues to be addressed is not lost. I never had much faith in Boris but he could not have handled this whole situation worse, imo. And his 'following the science' mantra when the science was non-existent was laughable.  The scientific buffoons he surrounded himself with were an embarrassment, imo.

Why would a government which refuses to address very real public health concerns in its own country such as obesity, an explosion of auto-immune diseases, and vaccine and drug safety, care about saving millions of lives (allegedly) in third world countries?  Shouldn't we be putting our own house in order?  Surely the UK tax-payer would prefer their hard-earned taxes went into making our own country great and letting some of the excellent NGOs, charities and relief organizations get on with helping third world countries with their particular health programmes?

Or am I missing something?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/opinion/coronavirus-vaccine-cost.html

ETA: Talking about being pregnant with excitement over a wider agenda (or perhaps it should be a 'final solution' as Gates' puts it) the image of Gerry McCann gazing adoringly at his flip-chart diagram with the 'wider agenda' headline comes to mind. Despite Gerry's professed adoration for the daughter he lost, his rapturous gaze as he unveiled his 'wider agenda' diagram on his flip-chart suggested that his passions were elsewhere. Rather like Bill Gates, who professes to be passionate about 'saving lives', who looked as though he had died and gone to heaven when reacting to the news of the global coronavirus pandemic. His reaction showed that his passion lay in global programmes which generate trillions.

I see what you mean. There's nothing medically wrong with your hearing, just that the speech of anyone with a mask will be unclear.

People who rely on lipreading will have a big problem!

Freedom wrote:I see what you mean. There's nothing medically wrong with your hearing, just that the speech of anyone with a mask will be unclear.

People who rely on lipreading will have a big problem!

I do actually have hearing loss in one ear, but it's not bad enough to bother to do anything about at the moment. Quite so about the lipreading but its more than that of course! The mouth gives a lot away without any words coming out at all!

(See above!!)

On the other hand, as the expression goes, you know when a politician is lying because his or her lips are moving.

The lips moving giveaway doesn't only apply to politicians as we know from people connected with the reason this forum exists!

We need a bit of humour.

Freedom wrote:The lips moving giveaway doesn't only apply to politicians as we know from people connected with the reason this forum exists!

Indeed. The Joker and his side-kick have a large repertoire of smirks, grimaces, gleeful looks etc.

Some excellent articles on the latest state of affairs to be found here.

A good summary from the 'Big Pharma Players' link:

It is very important to push back against the emotional triggering that is being generated by the state-aligned media and agencies. The behavioural insight experts are working hard to nudge us towards dependency on the state — but we must not surrender our individual and collective independence. We must determine the drivers behind this “crisis”, identify the causes, and deal with the symptoms without succumbing to fear or panic. It is not easy; but our futures depend upon our ability to see what is really going on and to respond accordingly.



https://www.ukcolumn.org/

https://www.ukcolumn.org/blogs/letter-lockdown-%E2%80%94-thoughts-covid%E2%80%9319

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-controls-british-government-response-covid19-part-one

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/covid%E2%80%9319-big-pharma-players-behind-uk-government-lockdown

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/the-hydroxychloroquine-scandal

Freedom wrote:We need a bit of humour.

Brilliant. Many a true word is spoken in jest, so they say. I love the explanation of risks to a child bit. I wonder how many people have died because of fear, lock-down and accidents? Probably more than died of coronavirus - particularly those with undiagnosed conditions for instance. I saw several people the other day very nearly run over by a bus as they attempted to 'social distance' and stepped out onto the road from a narrow pavement. As though getting run over was a far better fate than catching a virus.