£11 Million spent - time to end?

PeterMac wrote:

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Quick question about the confirmation letter for the appeal.
Does it mean anything that only Kate's name is on it?
Probably nothing, but thought I'd ask.

It says
Kate Healy and others
against Gonçalo Amaral and others

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Interesting phrasing.
Kate Healy [also known as McCann] and unnamed husband and children ...]
Gonçalo Amaral and others [video company and book publisher]

To me it reads like heads on between her and him ;-)

Thanks Peter.

@ Dee Coy - snipped - " The official fund accounts have to be submitted and are then available to view at Companies House. But if those official accounts merely show a large transfer withdrawal marked "To continue the Private Search" then this will be all the public sees."

Just realised how wacky the bolded statement is.  Are we all too close and gullible that we accept statements like this.

How do they think that any effort they put it to search for Madeleine could do better than the years, manpower and effort put in by the PJ and SY with all their collective experience, contacts, equipment, resources, specialists etc.

ETA - I suppose they could justify "To continue the Private Search" by saying they believe Maddie is in Brazil and therefore have to move there - poor things.

ETA - or the Bahamas !

[quote="Mimi"]

Just realised how wacky the bolded statement is.  Are we all too close and gullible that we accept statements like this.

How do they think that any effort they put it to search for Madeleine could do better than the years, manpower and effort put in by the PJ and SY with all their collective experience, contacts, equipment, resources, specialists ] quote
Or perhaps more to the point if they could do better why haven't they already ?

Or Bermuda triangle?

Châtelaine wrote:Or Bermuda triangle?

PMR wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Just realised how wacky the bolded statement is.  Are we all too close and gullible that we accept statements like this.

How do they think that any effort they put it to search for Madeleine could do better than the years, manpower and effort put in by the PJ and SY with all their collective experience, contacts, equipment, resources, specialists ] quote
Or perhaps more to the point if they could do better why haven't they already ?

True

The MSM push on all the garbage is really unbelievable. 

A couple of nobodies have created all this... Really? 

Get them in the dock. Sick of the tosh.

@ Dee Coy - snipped - " The official fund accounts have to be submitted and are then available to view at Companies House. But if those official accounts merely show a large transfer withdrawal marked "To continue the Private Search" then this will be all the public sees."

....for incriminating evidence more like.

It shows no they have no faith in our great NSY that they are up and ready to take over the investigation with their one million pounds when DCI Wall fails to find the abductor.

Rush of UK “Maddie” stories precedes British PM’s visit to Portugal tomorrow -


Quite what is behind the sudden rush of Maddie stories in the UK media this week is unclear, but one aspect is certain, the buzz has come as UK prime minister David Cameron heads back to Portugal, for a meeting with Passos Coelho in São Bento tomorrow. Billed officially as a conversation to discuss European affairs of mutual interest, it had barely been announced last week than mainstream media in UK launched into this new Maddie frenzy. Suggesting the €15 million Operation Grange probe into the toddler’s disappearance was due to be shelved after four fruitless years (click here), it then lurched into protestations that this could not be further from the truth and on to new “shock horrors” today, alleging that Grange detectives “spent £200 a night at 5-star hotels” on their fact-finding visits to Portugal. The bulk of the stories seem to have been coming from the pro-Tory Sun, though they have been followed up, almost in synchronisation, by rival tabloids the Mirror and Daily Mail. On the basis that there is no smoke without fire, Portuguese media has joined the fray, with national tabloid Correio da Manha reminding readers that it was David Cameron who “responded to a direct appeal from the parents of Madeleine McCann” to set up the hugely expensive Grange inquiry in the first place. With a spokesman for the McCann parents reportedly saying Kate and Gerry accept Grange “could not last forever” but will continue searching for their daughter, whatever happens, it is difficult to understand where all this renewed media excitement is leading. Certainly, the Portuguese inquiry - run out of Porto - shows no signs of closure, with national director of the PJ Pedro do Carmo telling the Resident last week that the investigation remains “dynamic” and that the unit is still working closely with British counterparts. Thus eyes are on tomorrow, when Cameron, under fire over Britain’s stand against fleeing migrants, is due in Lisbon for those talks of “mutual interest”. UPDATE: As this story went up, a small announcement on the Projecto Justiça Gonçalo Amaral blogsite gives another clue to the sudden media razzmatazz. Could it have been to hide the announcement that Gonçalo Amaral's appeal against the record amount of damages awarded against him in the civil case taken out by the McCanns has finally been accepted by Lisbon's Appellate Court? The low-key announcement simply thanks "everyone who has made a contribution".

As the news went out, the gofundme appeal - set up by a British single mother to raise money for Amaral's legal costs - has raised £38,205 (almost €52,500), with multiple people apparently contributing on a regular basis. The latest contributor, Peter Mac, has just posted: "The mystery of the sudden flurry of stupid "Grange is / is not going to be wound down" stories in the tabloids is exposed



http://portugalresident.com/rush-of-uk-%E2%80%9Cmaddie%E2%80%9D-stories-precedes-british-pm%E2%80%99s-visit-to-portugal-tomorrow









Well done and said PeterMac

Hurray, PeterMac!

And how interesting this snippet is from that article:

"Certainly, the Portuguese inquiry - run out of Porto - shows no signs of closure, with national director of the PJ Pedro do Carmo telling the Resident last week that the investigation remains “dynamic” and that the unit is still working closely with British counterparts."

Mimi wrote:@ Dee Coy - snipped - " The official fund accounts have to be submitted and are then available to view at Companies House. But if those official accounts merely show a large transfer withdrawal marked "To continue the Private Search" then this will be all the public sees."

Just realised how wacky the bolded statement is.  Are we all too close and gullible that we accept statements like this.

How do they think that any effort they put it to search for Madeleine could do better than the years, manpower and effort put in by the PJ and SY with all their collective experience, contacts, equipment, resources, specialists etc.

ETA - I suppose they could justify "To continue the Private Search" by saying they believe Maddie is in Brazil and therefore have to move there - poor things.

ETA - or the Bahamas !

It does beggar belief that they think they could remove money from the Fund set up specifically to Find Maddie to a second, "special account", set up specifically for money to.. er, Find Maddie.   And Joe Public all smile and nod.

As for believing their own search could match SY's... well, they Know, of course. But do they know if SY also Know. And whether if SY do Know, they have the empowerment to conduct the relevant 'proper' investigation that will get to the truth of what we all Kn Suspect.

Either way, if what we all Suspect is true, then we all know the Mcs know there aint no point to any search. So what's that money for?

In tandem, working well, uncovering stones.

At the end of the day, both organisations have got a pretty good idea in what happened. 

As most people who have read the files and not listened to any team McClarence guff.

Actually, feeling more optimistic than usual. At the mo.

Things looking good.

Dee Coy wrote:

Mimi wrote:@ Dee Coy - snipped - " The official fund accounts have to be submitted and are then available to view at Companies House. But if those official accounts merely show a large transfer withdrawal marked "To continue the Private Search" then this will be all the public sees."

Just realised how wacky the bolded statement is.  Are we all too close and gullible that we accept statements like this.

How do they think that any effort they put it to search for Madeleine could do better than the years, manpower and effort put in by the PJ and SY with all their collective experience, contacts, equipment, resources, specialists etc.

ETA - I suppose they could justify "To continue the Private Search" by saying they believe Maddie is in Brazil and therefore have to move there - poor things.

ETA - or the Bahamas !

It does beggar belief that they think they could remove money from the Fund set up specifically to Find Maddie to a second, "special account", set up specifically for money to.. er, Find Maddie.    And Joe Public all smile and nod.

As for believing their own search could match SY's... well, they Know, of course. But do they know if SY also Know. And whether if SY do Know, they have the empowerment to conduct the relevant 'proper' investigation that will get to the truth of what we all Kn Suspect.

Either way, if what we all Suspect is true, then we all know the Mcs know there aint no point to any search. So what's that money for?

^^^ Having trouble keeping up lately - but seems to me it's all propoganda from their side.
I only hope some authority is keeping an eye on what's happening with The Fund, I'm not buying what they say.

Missed all this today just catching up. Great news.

What they say, if can be polite, is literally a load of guff.

Desperate to get things wound down, speaks volumes. 

They want the end game but the true end game they can't control and is different to what they want/hope.

The last stretch is in sight folks

Andrew wrote:What they say, if can be polite, is literally a load of guff.

Desperate to get things wound down, speaks volumes. 

They want the end game but the true end game they can't control and is different to what they want/hope.

The last stretch is in sight folks

I so hope so Andrew.     Do they really think they've convinced most of the population what they say is the truth.  The vox pop aren't as gullible as 'they' seem to believe, I'm sure.        

They haven't convinced anyone. 

Hence, why there desperate and panicking to get everything closed off.

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Imo.etc.

bluebell wrote:

Andrew wrote:What they say, if can be polite, is literally a load of guff.

Desperate to get things wound down, speaks volumes. 

They want the end game but the true end game they can't control and is different to what they want/hope.

The last stretch is in sight folks

I so hope so Andrew.     Do they really think they've convinced most of the population what they say is the truth.  The vox pop aren't as gullible as 'they' seem to believe, I'm sure.        

That's the thing bluebell, they know the www is way out of their hands, deep down they probably want everything to disappear. IMO

dogs don't lie wrote:

bluebell wrote:

Andrew wrote:What they say, if can be polite, is literally a load of guff.

Desperate to get things wound down, speaks volumes. 

They want the end game but the true end game they can't control and is different to what they want/hope.

The last stretch is in sight folks

I so hope so Andrew.     Do they really think they've convinced most of the population what they say is the truth.  The vox pop aren't as gullible as 'they' seem to believe, I'm sure.        

That's the thing bluebell, they know the www is way out of their hands, deep down they probably want everything to disappear. IMO

Totally agree DDL, it is impossible to control social media.

Mods / admin - I've had a few posts today either heavily deleleted or whooshed. 

Sorry if upset anyone. 

If you do decide to edit / delete, would it be possible you can notify that on the post.

Will get off shortly. Glass half full and all that.

Andrew wrote:Mods / admin - I've had a few posts today either heavily deleleted or whooshed. 

Sorry if upset anyone. 

If you do decide to edit / delete, would it be possible you can notify that on the post.

Will get off shortly. Glass half full and all that.

Not heavily at all Andrew, no worries, just the odd couple of words or a sentence, just trying to be careful, and I know it is Thursday

Thanks CF.  Apologies,  Yes, Thursday and my glass is full now so all good.

Will maybe pipe up again in the morn. 

Enjoy all.

The Mc's are going down. Soon. Imo and all that.

PeterMac wrote:

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Quick question about the confirmation letter for the appeal.
Does it mean anything that only Kate's name is on it?
Probably nothing, but thought I'd ask.

It says
Kate Healy and others
against Gonçalo Amaral and others

It doesn't mean anything other than the secretary who typed the heading could not be arsed to type the full names of all the claimants and defendants, so they just put the name of the first party and others (sometimes Ors) - it saves space on the document too.  (with ex legal secretary hat on    )

Cristobell....  Any news on Sonia please.....