Re:Sir Clement Freud exposed as a paedophile as police urged to probe Madeleine McCann links.

costello Tue 21 Jun 2016, 7:10 pm

Not only was Jez Wilkins a film crew man, but what about Jon Corner? again coincidence or pattern. I have also been reading on fb 'AorS?' that there may also be a connection with Alan Farthing (Jill Dando's ex fiancé) he seemingly knows GMc and is also well connected to the Royals. Just my thoughts as ever.

dogs don't lie Tue 21 Jun 2016, 8:03 pm

Sir Clement Freud and links to the McCanns - Page 16 Image10

Is there anything we could gleam from the length of time on these calls?

Andrew Tue 21 Jun 2016, 8:21 pm

[quote="dogs don't lie"]

Just remind me ddl (or anyone else)...

Did the above get released in the PJ files.....

Thanks.

dogs don't lie Tue 21 Jun 2016, 8:30 pm

Found it on ab/scam but no idea where they got it Andrew...

Andrew Tue 21 Jun 2016, 8:51 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Found it on ab/scam but no idea where they got it Andrew...

Thanks, ddl.

Andrew Tue 21 Jun 2016, 8:56 pm

If anyone can source the origin of the above then that'll be great...

**candyfloss** Tue 21 Jun 2016, 9:07 pm

Cristobell Author ‏@RosalindaHu · 2h2 hours ago

Why is @TheSun trying to implicate Clement Freud in Madeleine's disappearance?
http://cristobell.blogspot.co.uk/ LAZZERI LIES

poster Tue 21 Jun 2016, 9:43 pm

"Gerry McCann phoned the number on the letter, discovered it was not a prank, and the next day the McCanns were at Freud’s villa with their twins Sean and Amelie, plus three friends who had stayed in Portugal to help them."

In the circumstances is it not rather strange for Freud to have also invited three of the McCanns friends who had stayed in Portugal to help them?

I could understand him asking the McCanns but why also include three of their friends? Did he know them? Or did the McCanns ask if they could bring them? I would suspect that the friends would be in on whatever happened

There is something linking them all for sure, imo.

Andrew Tue 21 Jun 2016, 9:51 pm

'Strength in numbers' if the occasion was ever denied (on the Freud side)..... if you know what I mean.

Can anyone find anything more on these phone-calls to the Villa yet....

Had a quick squiz and can't find squat as yet.

poster Tue 21 Jun 2016, 10:33 pm

costello wrote:
Bloodhound wrote:Hello Costello
Yes I remember reading about that at the time. Also, Wasn't Wilkins a film crew man? Now I know they denied knowing eachother but, something about his statement made me think otherwise. I havn't read his statements in a long while but I remember something about him saying he knew what one of the doctors specialised in because of chats on the plane.
I wondered how that was possible, on a cramped airplane full of small kids.

Not only was Jez Wilkins a film crew man, but what about Jon Corner? again coincidence or pattern. I have also been reading on fb 'AorS?' that there may also be a connection with Alan Farthing (Jill Dando's ex fiancé) he seemingly knows GMc and is also well connected to the Royals. Just
my thoughts as ever.

That's interesting. There are certainly some interesting links if you google Alan Farthing and Gerry McCann together.

Well, there is no doubt that there is corruption high up in all echelons of society - doctors and lawyers included.

Jon Corner's role is of interest, imo. What with that beyond weird 'Madeleine was Here' series for C4. Was he behind them? Emma Loach too?

Jez Wilkins is another curiosity.

How to join the dots...

https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/alan-farthing-and-britains-dirty-secrets/

http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2013_07_01_archive.html

Bloodhound Tue 21 Jun 2016, 10:49 pm

Let's not forget Mitchell, wasn't he first at the scene after Jill Dandos Murder.

Bampots Tue 21 Jun 2016, 10:56 pm

Can't be ars&d trying but if you look in the call logs you may find the number. It looks like someone has cut the name and mobile and searched for the number from them Andrew....I will maybe have a look tomorrow. Think they cropped up on CMOMM and onlyinamerica blog.

Andrew Wed 22 Jun 2016, 7:16 am

Bampots wrote:Can't be ars&d trying but if you look in the call logs you may find the number. It looks like someone has cut the name and mobile and searched for the number from them Andrew....I will maybe have a look tomorrow. Think they cropped up on CMOMM and onlyinamerica blog.

Cheers. I had a quick look on this but couldn't find it.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm

Someone lumping it together and sticking it on CMoMM is far from proof.

Andrew Wed 22 Jun 2016, 7:19 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3653532/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Clement-Freud-s-granddaughter-s-agony-child-sex-revelations-Emma-s-daughter-Scarlett-posts-heartfelt-blog-chronicling-reaction-allegations.html

Andrew Wed 22 Jun 2016, 8:17 am

Andrew wrote:
Bampots wrote:Can't be ars&d trying but if you look in the call logs you may find the number. It looks like someone has cut the name and mobile and searched for the number from them Andrew....I will maybe have a look tomorrow. Think they cropped up on CMOMM and onlyinamerica blog.

Cheers. I had a quick look on this but couldn't find it.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm

Someone lumping it together and sticking it on CMoMM is far from proof.

So now looking at the following for the dates / times mentioned about the calls to the Villa.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA_VOD/OA_11_VOD_Page_188.jpg

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA_VOD/OA_11_VOD_Page_120.jpg

And still can't find anything that matches... scratch

I'm not saying that it didn't happen. I just can't see anything to say it did.....

And what ever has been mocked up on CMoMM and posted elsewhere as fact is simply not good enough for me.

Bampots Wed 22 Jun 2016, 8:54 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3646056/Royal-rebel-s-girl-bubbly-spirit-Zenouska-Mowatt-enjoys-day-Royal-Ascot-s-Ladies-Day.html

SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE: Why did PR man Freud give McCann adviser a job?
By SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 03:25, 17 June 2016 | UPDATED: 15:16, 17 June

He cancelled his star-studded summer party this week after his late father, Sir Clement Freud, was exposed as a paedophile.
Now PR guru Matthew Freud finds himself the subject of an extraordinary coincidence.
Following the revelation that Sir Clement had a connection to Madeleine McCann, I learn that Matthew Freud put the McCanns’ spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, right, on the payroll of his agency Freud Communications.
Mitchell was appointed to Freuds the year after Sir Clement befriended the McCanns in Portugal two months after Madeleine’s disappearance in May 2007. .......

too many links and adverts to pull rest over go to above link to read rest of article

Andrew Wed 22 Jun 2016, 9:07 am

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA_VOD/OA_11_VOD_Page_087.jpg

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA_VOD/OA_11_VOD_Page_079.jpg

More records to match the said dates - although assuming that's to his voicemail. Unless he's texting the same person.

Still can't find what I'm looking for though.

Andrew Wed 22 Jun 2016, 9:14 am

Sorry everyone - I'm going off topic a bit here with all this phone record stuff. (a bit of help wouldn't go a miss.. Very Happy

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I think that article got posted up a while back Bampots, but things get easily missed/overlooked when it's a fast moving thread.

Snipped from said article:

Mitchell continues to advise the McCanns alongside roles at various PR agencies. Last month, he joined the consultancy JBP as a director.
But despite his three decades’ experience ‘at the highest levels of the UK media’, he’s keeping quiet.
Both Mitchell and Freud decline to comment.

Unlike Mitchell to keep quiet. I reckon he's feeling very hot under the collar where ever he is at the moment. Imo.

**candyfloss** Wed 22 Jun 2016, 9:21 am

Most unlike 'Clare' to keep schtum!! Smile

I have never seen those phone records listed like that either Andrew...

When I get time, (got builders in) I will have a search, perhaps someone else can help.

Andrew Wed 22 Jun 2016, 9:37 am

It's ok, Candyfloss.

DougD was very keen to answer half of my question, I have just noticed.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA_VOD/OA_11_VOD_Page_003.jpg

Cheers Doug. Top man. I can get some work done now Very Happy

Poe Wed 22 Jun 2016, 9:42 am

Unless the McCanns themselves are making sure that if they go down they'll bring everyone else with them, I can't see that the revelations about Clement Freud have come from that direction.

Clarence will be most unhappy that he is in the spotlight and his connections to the Freud family are being examined like this, hence the silence.

Andrew Wed 22 Jun 2016, 10:03 am

Speaking of Clarence or Clare as otherwise/preferred to be known..

Here is his latest blog thingy on behalf of his new employers....

http://www.jbp.co.uk/news/blog/how-do-companies-get-out-reputational-black-hole-when-their-backs-are-against-wall

Next weeks one...

How does Clarence get himself out of the black-hole when his back is against the wall.

Just like it is now and has been for a while.

Poe Wed 22 Jun 2016, 10:38 am

Fom the above article:

"And that means media engagement with openness, explanations and apologies".

The deafening silence from our Clare doesn't give the impression of a master of spin engaging and controlling the media.

He's running scared.

IMO and I hope.

Andrew Wed 22 Jun 2016, 2:15 pm

Some more of the granddaughter stuff...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/clement-freuds-granddaughter-on-horrible-things-and-bad-bad-news/

niklasericson Wed 22 Jun 2016, 3:13 pm

Andrew wrote:If anyone can source the origin of the above then that'll be great...

Sir Clement Freud and links to the McCanns - Page 16 Vodaphone-records

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Vodaphone-records.jpg

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