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Post  Châtelaine on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 7:35 pm

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Châtelaine wrote:Now, which country doesn't have an extradiction treaty with the UK? Brazil?
 Barbados.
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Post  costello on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 7:47 pm

Luna wrote:That £490,000+ of the fraudulent fund which they invested should just about cover their legal fees.

Hi Luna .Ben Salmond explained this today on fb 'AorS' and yes I agree it would just about cover it. Sorry can't copy.
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Post  unreorganised on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 7:48 pm

It's not all jam for Amaral.

Benfica unexpectedly lost at Setubal last night....
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Post  Guest on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 7:54 pm

costello wrote:
Luna wrote:That £490,000+ of the fraudulent fund which they invested should just about cover their legal fees.

Hi Luna .Ben Salmond explained this today on fb 'AorS' and yes I agree it would just about cover it. Sorry can't copy.

I don't suppose the parents are buoyed by their funds being depleted!

I do hope that the fund will be scrutinized by investigators.

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Post  Châtelaine on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 7:56 pm

One of the last matches I watched & liked [70's?] was real Real Madrid- Benfica. Eusebio and Di Stefano. Never to forget, but after that foot got dirty.
Poor Benfica nowadays then ....
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Post  Châtelaine on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 7:58 pm

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I don't suppose the parents are buoyed by their funds being depleted!

I do hope that the fund will be scrutinized by investigators.
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Post  poster on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:01 pm

Châtelaine wrote:
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Châtelaine wrote:Now, which country doesn't have an extradiction treaty with the UK? Brazil?
 Barbados.
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Post  poster on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:05 pm

The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??

It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.

Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?

I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."
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Post  froggy on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:07 pm

poster wrote:The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??

It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.

Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?

I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."

They can't afford him any longer Smile
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Post  poster on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:10 pm

froggy wrote:
poster wrote:The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??

It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.

Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?

I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."

They can't afford him any longer Smile

Indeed! Is there any money left in The Fraud Fund?

I thought the Fund was set up to 'find Madeleine' who, according to her parents, has come to no harm? The public donated money to find Madeleine, not to pay the legal costs??
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Post  Antonia on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:18 pm

I drank Portuguese wine tonight to celebrate. Three cheers for the Portuguese Supreme Court.
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Post  bluebell on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:20 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/31/madeleine-mccanns-parents-lose-legal-appeal-claims-covered-daughters/

Madeleine McCann's parents could be sued by police chief who falsely accused them of covering up death
Kate and Gerry McCann could now face a large costs bill

Kate and Gerry McCann face being sued by the former Portuguese police chief who falsely accused them of covering up their daughter’s death.

The McCanns yesterday lost an appeal in Portugal’s highest court over damaging allegations in a book on the case by Goncalo Amaral, who initially led the investigation into Madeleine’s disappaearance ten years ago.

The couple initially successfully sued Amaral for libel over the book, The  Truth of the Lie, but the decision was overturned by another court in 2015.

In the latest round of their legal battle the couple have failed to have the original decision reinstated.

That raises the nightmare prospect of being sued by Amaral for damages.

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Post  Poe on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:25 pm

poster wrote:
froggy wrote:
poster wrote:The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??

It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.

Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?

I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."

They can't afford him any longer Smile

Indeed! Is there any money left in The Fraud Fund?

I thought the Fund was set up to 'find Madeleine' who, according to her parents, has come to no harm? The public donated money to find Madeleine, not to pay the legal costs??

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Perhaps that's why OG was reduced to a handful of officers - they are just waiting for information from various financial institutions.

All speculation on my part.
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Post  poster on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:28 pm

bluebell wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/31/madeleine-mccanns-parents-lose-legal-appeal-claims-covered-daughters/

Madeleine McCann's parents could be sued by police chief who falsely accused them of covering up death
Kate and Gerry McCann could now face a large costs bill

Kate and Gerry McCann face being sued by the former Portuguese police chief who falsely accused them of covering up their daughter’s death.

The McCanns yesterday lost an appeal in Portugal’s highest court over damaging allegations in a book on the case by Goncalo Amaral, who initially led the investigation into Madeleine’s disappaearance ten years ago.

The couple initially successfully sued Amaral for libel over the book, The  Truth of the Lie, but the decision was overturned by another court in 2015.

In the latest round of their legal battle the couple have failed to have the original decision reinstated.

That raises the nightmare prospect of being sued by Amaral for damages.

If the accusations made in the book are false, then why have the McCanns lost the case?
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Post  poster on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:32 pm

bluebell wrote:Bit more from the Sun article above -     Yeah - too right !!

The appeal judges said Amaral’s right to express his opinions overruled any duty of confidentiality he had as an ex-police chief heading the Madeleine McCann investigation once the case files, made available on the Internet by Portuguese authorities, were put into the public domain.

Dr Amaral's opinions have been made on the basis of facts evolving from a thorough investigation including forensic evidence.

The McCann's theory is based on no evidence at all. Not one single piece of evidence that Madeleine was abducted from apartment 5A on Thursday evening by person/s unknown.

And the FACT that the McCanns were not prepared to seriously entertain any other scenario - at least in the first instance - other than abduction tends to suggest that they were following a script.
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Post  Poe on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:37 pm

@bluebell & poster

The media are really tying themselves in knots trying to avoid upsetting the McCanns  lol!
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Post  froggy on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:38 pm

Poe wrote:
poster wrote:
froggy wrote:
poster wrote:The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??

It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.

Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?

I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."

They can't afford him any longer Smile

Indeed! Is there any money left in The Fraud Fund?

I thought the Fund was set up to 'find Madeleine' who, according to her parents, has come to no harm? The public donated money to find Madeleine, not to pay the legal costs??

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Perhaps that's why OG was reduced to a handful of officers - they are just waiting for information from various financial institutions.

All speculation on my part.

Demonstrating fraud is probably the only way of bringing them to court
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Post  Châtelaine on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:42 pm

froggy wrote:[...]

Demonstrating fraud is probably the only way of bringing them to court
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Post  chilli on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:53 pm

Only just caught up with the news but isn't it fabulous.

A toast to a brave man is required, so off to find something suitable.
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Post  Heisenburg on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:54 pm

Moral of the story,don't loose a child in unexplained circumstance,don't sue the copper who tried to find out what happened and finally have a clear understanding of the civil law in a foreign country before launching a legal action.

Whoop,whoop.
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Post  Guest on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 8:58 pm

What happens next for GA?

I hope he will release a statement regarding today's news.

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Post  froggy on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 9:00 pm

Heisenburg wrote:Moral of the story,don't loose a child in unexplained circumstance,don't sue the copper who tried to find out what happened and finally have a clear understanding of the civil law in a foreign country before launching a legal action.

Whoop,whoop.

They were incredibly badly advised. I suppose bombastic Gerry considered he knew better and steamed ahead. Isabel happy to act for them as she gets paid win or lose, though she can say goodbye to that bonus Very Happy
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Post  poster on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 9:04 pm

How about a 10th anniversary meet-up in Luz?? For anyone interested...

I nearly went there last year as I know a couple who live there with their children. They know the Hubbards. I would love to talk to them more about the case and would be fascinated to walk along the streets which I have read so much about.

RIP Madeleine.... Crying or Very sad
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Post  poster on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 9:06 pm

I would be most surprised if the McCanns haven't syphoned off a few millions from the fund into various offshore accounts plus cash donations and book royalties that never made it into the fund at all. Weren't Metodo 3 experts in money laundering? I expect the McCanns have a nice little nest egg hidden away.

Perhaps that's why OG was reduced to a handful of officers - they are just waiting for information from various financial institutions.

All speculation on my part.


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Yes - agreed. But they might have to dip into the nest egg as surely the public have not been donating for quite some time and there have been some big legal fees?
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Post  coppernob on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 9:15 pm

Not long came in from work to hear this fantastic news, I am so so happy cheers
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