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Post  Satsuma Wed 07 Sep 2016, 3:36 pm

Heisenburg wrote:Just been reading elsewhere about the dogs and expanding on it a bit,Eddie alerts to Cadaver by barking,Keela alerts to blood by pointing at the spot with her nose,now its reckoned that Eddie also alerts to blood,if so why the use of two dogs when the one will do? also if Eddie does also alert to blood,how is it differentiated by how the dog alerts,any one know?

Eddie's alerts were more general - the scent of cadaver and/or blood somewhere in the vicinity. Once he had detected that, Keela would be brought in to pinpoint the exact spot with her nose so that swabs could be taken
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Post  Châtelaine Wed 07 Sep 2016, 4:06 pm

And, in this respect, the interesting thing is that Keela did NOT alert in the master bedroom ...
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Post  Andrew Wed 07 Sep 2016, 6:51 pm

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

Between 3pm on August 4th 2007 and 6.30am on August 5th 2007, the following samples were recovered in the living room of apartment 5A at the OCEAN CLUB where a murder probably took place.

Never really noticed that bit before even though I've read it on more than one occasion.

Anyway, thought I'd stick it up.
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Post  Satsuma Wed 07 Sep 2016, 9:39 pm

I've never noticed that either Andrew, and I've got no idea what it's doing there either. Eddie and Keela were very good at their jobs, but neither of them could tell the difference between an accident and murder!
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Post  Andrew Wed 07 Sep 2016, 10:02 pm

Satsuma wrote:I've never noticed that either Andrew, and I've got no idea what it's doing there either.  Eddie and Keela were very good at their jobs, but neither of them could tell the difference between an accident and murder!

I don't think Eddie and Keela wrote up that report, Satsuma.

But get your point.

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Post  Andrew Thu 08 Sep 2016, 11:04 am

http://sfist.com/2016/09/07/authorities_dig_up_cal_poly_campus.php

The latest lead came after the three cadaver dogs, two Springer spaniels and a German shepard mix trained on Civil War battlegrounds and sensitive to the scent of human decomposition, honed in on three sites on this hillside, where digging begins in earnest today.
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Post  bluebell Thu 08 Sep 2016, 7:16 pm

Sorry if this has been on before but there is a programme tonight - Thursday 8th Sept 2016 on the Channel PICK  152 on Sky.

"Documentary following the work of Britain;s police dogs in real operations,

sniffing out everything from drugs and weapons to counterfeit money"     Ken Stott narrates.

As it is series 1 episode 4  it may be common knowledge here but I've only just noticed it.     Annoyed I missed 1, 2 + 3.  Surprised

Just thought I'd mention it though  -- repeated an hour later on PICK + 1

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Post  Andrew Thu 08 Sep 2016, 7:23 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Send_in_the_Dogs

Seen several episodes of the programme many moons ago. Not all though so might record the one this eve.

Always a joy to watch how incredibly reliable and brilliant these dogs are. Isn't that right, Gerry?
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Post  Andrew Thu 08 Sep 2016, 8:59 pm

Just sticking this here for anyone who has not seen it....


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Post  Freedom Thu 08 Sep 2016, 9:40 pm

This is the episode of Send In The Dogs which mentioned the McCann case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmdkR1K-jU0

It's very weird though; there's a mention of the case at the end of part 1 and you assume that it will continue in part 2 but it doesn't.

Possibly it was whooshed on orders from on high but, if that was so, why not remove the first part too?
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Post  Andrew Thu 08 Sep 2016, 10:32 pm

I've never seen that one before. Just watched the first 7 mins or so about Eddie and Keela. Amazing dogs.

Yes I think a part of that video was most definitely pulled and wasn't allowed to be aired. They left the reference to the dogs working on the Madeleine case in as that was probably as much as they could get away with.

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Post  Freedom Fri 09 Sep 2016, 11:42 am

I remember when I saw that for the first time - only a year or so ago though the programme was made in 2008 - and I couldn't wait to see what was said in the second part.

I was left thinking that I'd imagined the first bit!
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Post  Heisenburg Fri 30 Dec 2016, 4:10 pm

Apologise if its been posted before,just seen a link on twitter.

http://www.policek9.com/Fleck/Cadaver%20Dogs.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-74,792
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Post  dogs don't lie Sat 07 Jan 2017, 7:15 pm

Reading across the road there and someone searched Madeleine McCann on Google maps. Up comes a place in Portugal labelled "Madeleine McCanns crib". Tried it myself but nothing came up, then another poster posted a link and there it was! What's that all about! scratch must be just a joke, I know, I know. Shocked

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Post  Andrew Sat 07 Jan 2017, 9:40 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Reading across the road there and someone searched Madeleine McCann on Google maps. Up comes a place in Portugal labelled "Madeleine McCanns crib". Tried it myself but nothing came up, then another poster posted a link and there it was! What's that all about! scratch  must be just a joke, I know, I know. Shocked

I just tried it and this came up:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Madeleine+McCann's+crib/@39.399872,-8.7847567,9z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0xd186981a9751601:0x104fbf91e8eaf1f3!8m2!3d39.399872!4d-8.224454
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Post  dogs don't lie Sat 07 Jan 2017, 9:57 pm

Strange. I didn't get it when I put it in but I got it in your link and the one across the way? Probably a joke, but I didn't think any Tom, Dick or Harry could alter google maps?

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Post  Andrew Sat 07 Jan 2017, 10:11 pm

I just zoomed in on the link and changed it to satellite. I suppose if you wanted to dispose of something then that looks a good a place as any.

Not sure how you can add things on Google Maps etc but clearly someone has here though.
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Post  unreorganised Sat 07 Jan 2017, 11:39 pm

Andrew wrote:I just zoomed in on the link and changed it to satellite. I suppose if you wanted to dispose of something then that looks a good a place as any.

Been through Abrantes on the train. If anybody likes a bit of trainspotting then a trip to nearby Entroncamento is highly recommended. If not, then it's just a dull provincial hellhole to get stuck in when your connection goes wrong....
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Post  Poe Sun 08 Jan 2017, 5:14 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Reading across the road there and someone searched Madeleine McCann on Google maps. Up comes a place in Portugal labelled "Madeleine McCanns crib". Tried it myself but nothing came up, then another poster posted a link and there it was! What's that all about! scratch  must be just a joke, I know, I know. Shocked

Get ready for The Sun headlines about the sick Madeleine trolls hacking Google.
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Post  dogs don't lie Sun 08 Jan 2017, 5:26 pm

Poe wrote:
dogs don't lie wrote:Reading across the road there and someone searched Madeleine McCann on Google maps. Up comes a place in Portugal labelled "Madeleine McCanns crib". Tried it myself but nothing came up, then another poster posted a link and there it was! What's that all about! scratch  must be just a joke, I know, I know. Shocked

Get ready for The Sun headlines about the sick Madeleine trolls hacking Google.

I'm sure, who does this kind of thing? Evil or Very Mad

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Post  Châtelaine Sun 08 Jan 2017, 5:28 pm

That's anyone's guess.
But it's not too difficult to locate those ...
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Post  Andrew Mon 15 May 2017, 1:59 pm

Will stick this one here:

(unless there is another dog thread that is more suitable?)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4506920/Newborn-boy-buried-alive-bush-saved-dog.html

Newborn boy buried alive in the bush is saved by a dog after it 'smelt the baby' and dug into the ground to find him
The dog dug a hole in the soil to find the one-month-old baby in China
When the pet freed the baby, he was crying and his mouth was full of mud
It's thought the boy was buried because his family thought he had died
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Post  candyfloss Sun 21 May 2017, 2:08 pm

Nick van der Leek‏ @HiRezLife · 53m53 minutes ago
 

Detective reveals motive in #NikkiBurgess murder http://wkrn.tv/1QQFRse  Seems cadaver dogs now recognised as forensic technology #McCann


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Later, cadaver dogs alerted detectives to that bathroom and the master bedroom. What the dogs alerted to was the presence of human decomposition.

“The first area they alerted to was in the master bedroom where the bundle of blankets was,” said Atkin. “The second area they alerted to was in the bathroom, specifically the bathtub.”

http://wkrn.com/2015/11/24/man-charged-in-nikki-burgess-case-due-in-court/


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