The Mystery of Ben Needham

TheTruthWillOut wrote:

Helenmeg wrote:it is still my professional belief that Ben died as a result of a tragic incident at the farmhouse involving heavy machinery."


What heavy machinery at the farm house.

The digger was "borrowed" after Konstantinos and co had left their site for the day/lunch?

An article from yesterday:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2798017/ben-needham-appeal/

Snipped from above:

In the latest appeal released by Ben's family, they write in the little lad's voice as if he is talking from beyond the grave.

It says: "My name is Ben Needham. I disappeared 24th July 1991, I was 21 months old when I was involved in an accident on Kos Island, Greece.

"My family are still trying to find me so they can take me home. They need me, I need them, please tell someone where I am."

What's the point of this? Police have him dead due to an accident in 1991

Yeah, exactly.

Here's the Mirror article about it:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/new-face-ageing-technique-could-10622627

You beat me to it, Froggy.

The Mail article about it. With a bit about Madeleine as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4589274/Face-ageing-method-boost-search-missing-people.html

BBC Scotland 6am news this morning are reporting that a university in Aberdeen is testing items connected to Ben Needham found near the farmhouse with traces of blood on them. They are looking at obtaining DNA results. The theory is being put out there again that he died as a result of an accident with heavy machinery. Is this going to be official closure? Will there be a knock on effect to another case. How many matching markers will be needed to be conclusive in this instance?

hesla wrote:BBC Scotland 6am news this morning are reporting that a university in Aberdeen is testing items connected to Ben Needham found near the farmhouse with traces of blood on them. They are looking at obtaining DNA results. The theory is being put out there again that he died as a result of an accident with heavy machinery. Is this going to be official closure? Will there be a knock on effect to another case. How many matching markers will be needed to be conclusive in this instance?

Just heard it on heart news down here in the SW.
Also on the beeb web.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40684276

Ben Needham: Blood found on items in hunt for toddler

Bit more,also posted in the dog section for it contains reference to dogs.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pioneering-scientific-proof-behind-blood-10858707.amp

Heisenburg wrote:Bit more,also posted in the dog section for it contains reference to dogs.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pioneering-scientific-proof-behind-blood-10858707.amp

Interesting that the dogs are ok.....

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Is this the door marked exit?

I'm a big "fan" of Dr. Arpad Vass and his "Body Farm".
Groundbreaking research in efforts to analyse way and time of death.

Peronally I find it hugely significant the way that the dogs are slowly creeping into this tragic tale. The site has moved from the house to the site 750 meters away and back and Kerry speaks of a multiple people coverup.....
Let' s hope Ben gets justice!! Soon-!

It`s so confusing reading all these different reports - I still don`t understand where and when each item was found.

Sadly for Kerry, there seems to be little doubt that the only people guilty of a cover-up are members of her own family.

From 9:20 mins to 16:30 mins

Another thing that Richard and Tony Bennett agree on then - that Stephen Needham accidentally killed Ben while taking him for a ride on his bike and hid the body.

Tony has returned today and posted this.

Two years ago a forum member kindly donated to me the book 'Ben' by Kerry Needham. It's the hardback edition, first published in 2013.

On page 85, Kerry Needham writes:

"Ben didn't care about wearing only a T-shirt and little buckled sandals any more than he did about being wet".

She had also referred earlier to Stephen "...dousing Ben with another bowl of water onto his head".
Incidentally a photo of Ben wearing these buckled sandals can be seen on one of the films of Richard Hall's tour last year, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3GoaUH5BKE&t=1027s

Richard deals with the Ben Needham story in some detail between 7 mins 45 secs and 16 mins 35 secs; the pic of Ben on a motor-bike (scooter really) wearing his sandals is at 10 mins 30 secs.

In the video Richard queries why South Yorkshire Police became involved again and why they needed to send out a whole team of people to excavate the area around the cottage where Ben and his family were staying - and compares the dig on the island of Kos with the dig in areas of waste ground in Praia da Luz in 2014 in the Madeleine McCann case.

In his latest tour, Richard dealt in more detail with the Ben Needham case, focusing on interviews carried out with Stephen in the documentary 'Ben Needham - Somebody Knows', link here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32xqT0mlXdo

In his talk, Richard examines a segment of an interview with Stephen Needham which runs for 15 seconds, between 11 mins 21 secs and 11 mins 36 secs.

Surely one of the clearest examples of 'Duper's Delight' that you could ever wish to see is at 11 mins 32 secs to 11 mins 36 secs.

The sequence where Stephen is placed under hypnosis is also worth detailed scrutiny; it lasts from 35 mins 00 secs to 45 mins 55 secs.

The reaction of Stephen to 'awkward' questions is especially instructive.

At one point, faced with a difficult question, there is a shout outburst of nose-scratching.

If you watch to the end of this sequence, it becomes crystal clear that throughout being placed under hypnosis, he is in control all the time, and indeed his answers are slow, with many pauses, as if he is thinking very carefully about what he can and can't say.

[NOTE: Stephen maintains that images in his mind of Ben falling off the motor-bike and being run over by the back wheel of the bike were 'put there' by the Greek police insinuating that that is what happened to Ben].

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I cannot accept that Ben Needham was run over by a dead digger-driver.

I cannot accept that South Yorkshire Police's re-involvement in this case, and their sending an expeditionary force to Kos at great expenditure to the British taxpayer, was a genuine search for the truth.

In short, I do not believe a word that they have said about the disappearance of Ben Needham.

Finally, it is becoming ever harder to believe that when a British police officer speaks these days, s/he is telling the truth.

May all the lies told by British police officers to cover up the truth be exposed one day.

The sooner, the better.

Surely one of the clearest examples of 'Duper's Delight' that you could ever wish to see is at 11 mins 32 secs to 11 mins 36 secs.

Agreed. Chilling.

Irrespective of whatever happened, I wonder if there were some major jealousy issues going on within the family?

ETA: Totally agree Freedom:

I cannot accept that Ben Needham was run over by a dead digger-driver.

I cannot accept that South Yorkshire Police's re-involvement in this case, and their sending an expeditionary force to Kos at great expenditure to the British taxpayer, was a genuine search for the truth.

In short, I do not believe a word that they have said about the disappearance of Ben Needham.

Finally, it is becoming ever harder to believe that when a British police officer speaks these days, s/he is telling the truth.

May all the lies told by British police officers to cover up the truth be exposed one day.

The sooner, the better.


The story does not have a leg to stand on, imo. Rather like another story that does not have a leg to stand on. Rather like the UK police returning to Luz and uncovering a sock and a few bones.

I guess the question is: WHY - the stories are both BS, imo. Why these cases and not other cases?

Thanks Freedom. It seems the most likely scenario to me, always has done, especially after seeing S under hypnosis plus the turquoise shorts business. OMG I actually agree with TB

Unless of course the grandparents know differently.

You are not alone on this one Mimi.I wouldn't worry about agreeing with TB here, I would think most people do.