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Post  chirpyinsect Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:34 pm

Andrew wrote:Just going back to this bankruptcy stuff...

Snipped a couple of comments (I'm sure they won't mind)

Onlylooking77 3 points an hour ago
Just read on a Facebook post that N was declared bankrupt in 2010, has anyone else heard of this and can maybe verify it as true? I have no proof this only what i've seen.


hann12 2 points an hour ago
Hi yes it is on the Richard D Hall FB page.


damarhunt 1 point 34 minutes ago
On the secret Facebook page they had screenshots of private mails with Richard D Hall. He seems to think that Corrie is awol and that his family are covering for him, something to do with their body language.


Can anyone have a squiz on Richard Hall's FB stuff.......

Someone on Pammy's group has said it was N's sister that was bankrupt.

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Post  costello Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:38 pm

This looks like the latest from Richard Hall on facebook Andrew:

Richard D Hall
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Corrie McKeague's phone signal was traced to a bin wagon in Barton Mills and it was assumed his phone (and possibly him too) was in that bin wagon. Corrie was last seen heading towards the area where the bins are and had been sleeping in a doorway previously. He looks quite tired in the last image. Let's say he went back to sleep near the bins. ie the same bins that the lorry emptied which they thought his mobile phone ended up in. They seem to think that he cannot have been in the back of the bin lorry because the waste was weighed and logged when it was put in the bin lorry and it was too light. What if the bin lorry rolled over his sleeping body while it was reversing when approaching the bin? - and killed him. What would the driver do? - put his body in the front of the cab and rush him to hospital, but then realising it was too late - dispose of the body? - Could that explain why his phone signal followed the bin lorry all the way to Barton Mills? Does it explain why cameras saw Corrie going into the bin area but not coming out? Apparently the bin lorry driver was only questioned in relation to a missing person, and was not under any suspicion or caution. It seems significant to me that Corrie was last seen near the bins that a lorry emptied, and that very lorry was the lorry that his phone was traced to later on in its journey. The alternative is that the bin lorry driver gave him a lift, but that doesn't account for him going missing at exactly that time. I believe the bin lorry driver may know what happened.
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Post  Andrew Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:40 pm

Ok - cheers, Chirps.

What's being said by Richard the Hall though on his group?

Has he discovered anything of note and I don't mean abduction by aliens.
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Post  Andrew Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:44 pm

Thanks Costello. Nah - don't go with the binman stuff myself.
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Post  costello Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:46 pm

Andrew wrote:Thanks Costello. Nah - don't go with the binman stuff myself.

I don't either Andrew.
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Post  Freedom Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:48 pm

An accident leading to an ill thought out cover up certainly doesn't seem in the least bit credible to me - unlike some other cases I can think of!
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Post  Andrew Thu 19 Jan 2017, 6:06 pm

... But his theory there doesn't tie in with this though which I snipped earlier:

damarhunt 1 point 34 minutes ago
On the secret Facebook page they had screenshots of private mails with Richard D Hall. He seems to think that Corrie is awol and that his family are covering for him, something to do with their body language.


I can't keep up to be fair. Is the Gurnster having private mails with him or what...? scratch
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Post  Benevolent Thu 19 Jan 2017, 6:30 pm

When I first read about the bin area he went into I thought it was a complete dead end and the only way out was by climbing walls, but after watching the video on the FindCorrie FB page when Nicola did a walk around the area its not. There are loads of places he could've walked around and out of there.

I can't post a link without it coming up as my FB does someone know how ?
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Post  Benevolent Thu 19 Jan 2017, 6:41 pm

chirpyinsect wrote:
Andrew wrote:Just going back to this bankruptcy stuff...

Snipped a couple of comments (I'm sure they won't mind)

Onlylooking77 3 points an hour ago
Just read on a Facebook post that N was declared bankrupt in 2010, has anyone else heard of this and can maybe verify it as true? I have no proof this only what i've seen.


hann12 2 points an hour ago
Hi yes it is on the Richard D Hall FB page.


damarhunt 1 point 34 minutes ago
On the secret Facebook page they had screenshots of private mails with Richard D Hall. He seems to think that Corrie is awol and that his family are covering for him, something to do with their body language.


Can anyone have a squiz on Richard Hall's FB stuff.......

Someone on Pammy's group has said it was N's sister that was bankrupt.

I've had a look on the bankrupt/insolvencies register and nothing comes up for N for any of her surnames and only a Kerry Wringe in 2013
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Post  Andrew Thu 19 Jan 2017, 6:49 pm

Cheers. Those Chinese whispers again. They get everywhere.

Still intrigued by this comment though:

On the secret Facebook page they had screenshots of private mails with Richard D Hall. He seems to think that Corrie is awol and that his family are covering for him, something to do with their body language.

Cue Peter Hyatt I suppose.

And what's with these private emails between him and Pamela Gurney. scratch
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Post  chirpyinsect Thu 19 Jan 2017, 7:04 pm

costello wrote:
Andrew wrote:Thanks Costello. Nah - don't go with the binman stuff myself.

I don't either Andrew.
The binman theory has been done to death on the official FB Corrie page. But I would like to take RDH to task when he says the phone signal has been traced to a bin lorry. That is nonsense with all due respect. The phone pinged a mast at Barton Mills which is in the direction that the bin lorry travelled and allegedly at the same time as it would have reached there. Although timings have altered since this info was released anyway. The phone signal was not, repeat not, traced to the actual lorry. How could it have been? The radius of the mast is 3-5 km. I feel Richard has perpetuated a myth that has people on his page suggesting the driver might have killed Corrie accidentally then tried to take him to hospital but he died so in a panic, the driver hid his body.
Check your facts Richard. I would tell him myself but can't comment on his page. Might have to join it or something.

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Post  Andrew Thu 19 Jan 2017, 7:11 pm

He's too busy gazing into space to probably follow it with any sort of detail.

Either that or he's got Bennett perched on his lap instructing him what to say again....
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Post  bluebell Thu 19 Jan 2017, 7:21 pm

RDH is talking nonsense IMO. As chirps says he is just perpetuating myths. That poor bin lorry driver, thank goodness his name hasn't been made public.

I've just been reading a bit of Reddit where a poster who says they are local states that the Horseshoe is a well known meeting place for hook-ups.

Many locals are commenting on different sites now, but this is the only time I have heard that. If it's true obviously the police are aware of it and always have been.

I have no proof whether it is true or not maybe there will be someone to confirm. Would make sense of C's demeanour when he stops, looks, and enters the Horseshoe though imo.

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Post  eeejay268 Thu 19 Jan 2017, 7:41 pm

Seems an odd spot bearing in mind it's on the back of a rehab centre?

Anyone know where the local gay pubs/clubs are to the HS?

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Post  costello Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:01 pm

Just been reading on Reddit that the PI that is working on this case is a friend of 'Uncle Tony'. If correct why is he being paid a (large) fee?
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Post  bluebell Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:04 pm

I'm not local, but those rehab premises are just accommodation aren't they. I believe there are four properties belonging to Focus12 in BSE.

As I said, I cannot confirm nor deny that information. It is a quiet-ish spot with no CCTV coverage though, and only a 'known meeting place' so .....

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Post  bluebell Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:07 pm

costello wrote:Just been reading on Reddit that the PI that is working on this case is a friend of 'Uncle Tony'. If correct why is he being paid a (large) fee?


Uncle T did say that he used to work/they were previous colleagues of his.   An independent business now, and don't expect they'd do (whatever it is they are doing Rolling Eyes  )  for free.    It does all sound a bit     confused in house though.

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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:11 pm

bluebell wrote:
costello wrote:Just been reading on Reddit that the PI that is working on this case is a friend of 'Uncle Tony'. If correct why is he being paid a (large) fee?


Uncle T did say that he used to work/they were previous colleagues of his.   An independent business now, and don't expect they'd do (whatever it is they are doing Rolling Eyes  )  for free.    It does all sound a bit     confused   in house though.

It was said on last nights Q&A that MIS are only doing social media stuff. Cynically I think the betrayal Nicola felt and then the sudden Just Giving fund for their own PI are closely connected....
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Post  bluebell Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:20 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:
bluebell wrote:
costello wrote:Just been reading on Reddit that the PI that is working on this case is a friend of 'Uncle Tony'. If correct why is he being paid a (large) fee?


Uncle T did say that he used to work/they were previous colleagues of his.   An independent business now, and don't expect they'd do (whatever it is they are doing Rolling Eyes  )  for free.    It does all sound a bit     confused   in house though.

It was said on last nights Q&A that MIS are only doing social media stuff. Cynically I think the betrayal Nicola felt and then the sudden Just Giving fund for their own PI are closely connected....


So MIS are only investigating those SM websites do you think? I remember it was said they would be trawling SM - but is this another "cleansing" operation? Not doing a very good job if that's so imo.

Could not understand how a PI could gain relevant information from the police, makes sense now though.

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Post  chirpyinsect Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:26 pm

unreorganised wrote:
Andrew wrote:@Mimi - Pam Gurney has set up some Facebook Corrie group yesterday or she's an admin of it.

Not quite sure how Uri Gellar got slipped in. I think Unreorganised mentioned something about him and it just grew some legs.

Hope that helps.

Yeah, sorry, that was my doing. Just intrigued by the juxtaposition of newspaper stories - there was a good Daily Star one with something Maddie related alongside "Plague of black eyed ghost children" which made me think of the last photo and Maddie's curiously hollow eyes. Also the Corrie story has had a whiff of psyop-ishness about it from the start, and I have been reading a book about military disinformation in which Uri Geller also features. And then suddenly there he was!

How bloody spooky. Just got a newsfeed notification on FB that my friend the mentallist who knows UG personally, posted a link to a Sun article stating that UG was the subject of secret tests on his abilities in the 70's. The tests were carried out by the CIA.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2645757/cia-uri-geller-stargate-project-classified-documents-released-declassified/&ved=0ahUKEwi28rilhM_RAhUkCcAKHUzuClQQqOcBCBkwAA&usg=AFQjCNEC0RJFna9TCPsrMix-I9ES5hpYIw

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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:38 pm

bluebell wrote:
TheTruthWillOut wrote:
bluebell wrote:
costello wrote:Just been reading on Reddit that the PI that is working on this case is a friend of 'Uncle Tony'. If correct why is he being paid a (large) fee?


Uncle T did say that he used to work/they were previous colleagues of his.   An independent business now, and don't expect they'd do (whatever it is they are doing Rolling Eyes  )  for free.    It does all sound a bit     confused   in house though.

It was said on last nights Q&A that MIS are only doing social media stuff. Cynically I think the betrayal Nicola felt and then the sudden Just Giving fund for their own PI are closely connected....


So MIS are only investigating those SM websites do you think?    I remember it was said they would be trawling SM - but is this another "cleansing" operation?   Not doing a very good job if that's so imo.

Could not understand how a PI could gain relevant information from the police, makes sense now though.

They may have hoped to be able to trace phones/view the CCTV but it didn't pan out. I didn't think for a second they could get access to the Police evidence but, IIRC, the main thing the head guy from MIS talked about in his interview at the beginning was tracing the closest phone to Corrie's in BM/HS. If that leaves only SM then I really can't see what help they can be now. I highly doubt a possible perp can be found from analysing data.
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Post  bluebell Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:55 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:

They may have hoped to be able to trace phones/view the CCTV but it didn't pan out. I didn't think for a second they could get access to the Police evidence but, IIRC, the main thing the head guy from MIS talked about in his interview at the beginning was tracing the closest phone to Corrie's in BM/HS. If that leaves only SM then I really can't see what help they can be now. I highly doubt a possible perp can be found from analysing data.    


I remain doubtful that an outside private agency could obtain such personal phone tracking records (though I did read comments from EE etc that suggested otherwise).
Of course if it was considered a National Security issue it would be different, but then the MOD would get involved.
Corrie's phone is the one that would yield results, and of course they don't have that.
I wish more searches were done.

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Post  Benevolent Thu 19 Jan 2017, 9:42 pm

This link shows area's not covered by CCTV. It says Corrie could not have gone any further on foot without being seen on CCTV but you can see there are cars in that area so what's to say he wasn't in a car confused

http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2017/01/09/possible-routes-without-being-seen-on-cctv-bury-st-edmunds/
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Post  costello Thu 19 Jan 2017, 9:43 pm

bluebell wrote:
costello wrote:Just been reading on Reddit that the PI that is working on this case is a friend of 'Uncle Tony'. If correct why is he being paid a (large) fee?


Uncle T did say that he used to work/they were previous colleagues of his.   An independent business now, and don't expect they'd do (whatever it is they are doing Rolling Eyes  )  for free.    It does all sound a bit     confused   in house though.

I didn't know any of this bluebell.I'm becoming a bit more cynical now, and I don't like it.
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Post  costello Thu 19 Jan 2017, 10:01 pm

Benevolent wrote:This link shows area's not covered by CCTV. It says Corrie could not have gone any further on foot without being seen on CCTV but you can see there are cars in that area so what's to say he wasn't in a car confused

http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2017/01/09/possible-routes-without-being-seen-on-cctv-bury-st-edmunds/

This footage does seem a bit futile to say the least, I'm not sure what the inference is here. I would however guess that yes Corrie may have had access to some form of transport, if needed.I still hope this was a pre-planned AWOL venture.
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