General Election Discussion - before and after the event

Just read this from Ian Duncan-Smith, you gotta laugh, can anyone find a house below £100,000 these days, you would be hard pushed to. So in affect anyone owing their home.


He defends his party's proposals on social care, stressing: "You don't have to contribute if your assets are below £100,000 - which means a wider base and beginning to spread the load.

I don`t see the point of these TV spats - it`s degrading to descend into arguments. They won`t get anywhere - neither is going to concede and say `well perhaps you`re right on that` - it won`t be a proper civilised discussion.

We know what their views are. They have each presented their manifestos.

It reminds me of cock fighting and the crowds baying for one of them to be slaughtered.

I certainly won`t be watching it.

I may be mistaken or ill-informed, but which other country serves free lunches to school children?

candyfloss wrote:

Mimi wrote:

candyfloss wrote:

How can you segregate children and say 'sorry you can't go and eat your parents are too well off' - that is totally unacceptable, children should not be put through that.  It's all or nothing.

It doesn`t have to happen like that Candy.  They all eat together and no one knows who is using a voucher and who is not - unless of course the vouchered child tells everyone.  Only the office staff would know.

As if children wouldn't know and talk in the playground.  It makes for a 2 class society, children should not be included in all this politics, they deserve free meals at school all of them.  

Yes, that`s the best way. Don`t like the word `deserve` though.

Châtelaine wrote:I may be mistaken or ill-informed, but which other country serves free lunches to school children?

Not sure Chatelaine.

I think I remember taking my dinner money to school on a Monday. And with all my kids, they all had to take their dinner money for the week on a Monday.

Mimi wrote:I don`t see the point of these TV spats - it`s degrading to descend into arguments. They won`t get anywhere - neither is going to concede and say `well perhaps you`re right on that` - it won`t be a proper civilised discussion.

We know what their views are.  They have each presented their manifestos.

It reminds me of cock fighting and the crowds baying for one of them to be slaughtered.

I certainly won`t be watching it.

Yes, the present their manifesto, but when questioned some of the real truth comes out. Some of the debates in the past have been excellent, to the point of making me change my mind on many things. It gives you the idea of the real person not just speeches and words on manifestos and pre prepared interviews. I am all for live debating, I have never seen it descend in 'cock fighting' It's good to see the audiences ask questions and them then answering ducking and diving. I certainly will be watching, especially if May backs down and participates.

Mimi wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:I may be mistaken or ill-informed, but which other country serves free lunches to school children?

Not sure Chatelaine.

I think I remember taking my dinner money to school on a Monday.  And with all my kids, they all had to take their dinner money for the week on a Monday.

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Oh right: you paid for it, yes?

I've said [sorry ...] at least 25 years ago, that the best thing that could happen, would be if the UK would leave the EU and be a reading-mark between Continental Europe and the USA.
At the same time, so much later, I'm in limbo ...

candyfloss wrote:

Mimi wrote:I don`t see the point of these TV spats - it`s degrading to descend into arguments. They won`t get anywhere - neither is going to concede and say `well perhaps you`re right on that` - it won`t be a proper civilised discussion.

We know what their views are.  They have each presented their manifestos.

It reminds me of cock fighting and the crowds baying for one of them to be slaughtered.

I certainly won`t be watching it.

Yes, the present their manifesto, but when questioned some of the real truth comes out.  Some of the debates in the past have been excellent, to the point of making me change my mind on many things.  It gives you the idea of the real person not just speeches and words on manifestos and pre prepared interviews.  I am all for live debating, I have never seen it descend in 'cock fighting'  It's good to see the audiences ask questions and them then answering ducking and diving. I certainly will be watching, especially if May backs down and participates.

Perhaps I`m over stating it to say `cock fighting` but I hate it when they talk over each other. I wouldn`t mind so much if they were allowed to speak each in turn without interruption.

I`m not sticking up for Theresa May - in fact I believe Jeremy is a far more genuine person and morally good. Even good enough to not see the consequences of being overly humanitarian to immigrants who take advantage - yes he`s a lovely person. I do realise that Theresa May never answers the question. I remember watching her at some tribunal or other and she said a lot but said nothing and never actually answered their questions. Kate McCann was right when she said about TM`s fluffy words.

I just hate the cut and thrust of it all.

My mother paid 5 shillings a week each for me and my brother and I paid for my daughters. Children who's parents couldn't afford dinner money got theirs free but I never knew who they were. By the time my daughters went to senior school they chose a packed lunch because I made dinner every night.

Châtelaine wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:I may be mistaken or ill-informed, but which other country serves free lunches to school children?

Not sure Chatelaine.

I think I remember taking my dinner money to school on a Monday.  And with all my kids, they all had to take their dinner money for the week on a Monday.

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Oh right: you paid for it, yes?

Yes.

I think in recent years free meals have been made available to infants only.

The Tories want to scrap that and give them free breakfasts instead

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/education/theresa-may-branded-lunch-snatcher-free-school-meals-dropped/

Mimi wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:I may be mistaken or ill-informed, but which other country serves free lunches to school children?

Not sure Chatelaine.

I think I remember taking my dinner money to school on a Monday.  And with all my kids, they all had to take their dinner money for the week on a Monday.

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Oh right: you paid for it, yes?

Yes.

I think in recent years free meals have been made available to infants only.

The Tories want to scrap that and give them free breakfasts instead

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/education/theresa-may-branded-lunch-snatcher-free-school-meals-dropped/

Bet it wont be a 'Full English' More likely to be a bowl of chocolate-coated sugar bombs and a slice of white bread

No I doubt they`ll get the cooks to come in that early and do a fry up. They could do eggs on toast I suppose - that`s quite quick or something like sugar free muesli and fresh fruit. There`s so much sugar in breakfast cereals these days.

I just bet that a lot of food t school gets scraped into bin and not even eaten ,if payed for would not be so much wasted . I know few teachers ,and it seemed that a lot of kids don't eat much breakfast at all That is bad I think ,overnight no food and them might waite all that time for dinner at school,thats reall y bad .If I recall properly,some school tried the breakfast and it made lot difference to those childrens performence at school.Maybe someone will recall that could been quite a time ago . joyce1938

Not sure about that, Joyce.

A Full English making any difference to studied etc.. Really not sure.

I was never (or have been) a breakfast person. I'd skip it and munch on lunch. And more for tea. But never been a fan of breakfast though..

But, I've gone off on one (again) and forgot your question...

Getting off topic a bit - but Andrew, yes there are studies that have proved children are more alert and interested if they eat breakfast.

Apparently protein is best for you at the start of the day.

I enjoyed this. Humorously lays bare what's staring us all in the face if only our media would let us see:

Thanks Dee Coy, he tells it like it is and gets rid of the sycophancy.    Going to watch more of his shows.

Will stick this one here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/theresa-may-internet-conservatives-government-a7744176.html

Theresa May is planning to introduce huge regulations on the way the internet works, allowing the government to decide what is said online.

Particular focus has been drawn to the end of the manifesto, which makes clear that the Tories want to introduce huge changes to the way the internet works.

It would be funny if Theresa lost her seat in Maidenhead - house prices there can be £500K+. How many would be prepared to lose £400K?

espeland wrote:
It would be funny if Theresa lost her seat in Maidenhead - house prices there can be £500K+. How many would be prepared to lose £400K?

Yes, ...... but has that ever happened before, an incumbent Prime Minster, or wannabe Prime Minister ( like Jeremy Corbyn) losing their seat?

Not since 1906 apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-199840,00.html

Mimi wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:I may be mistaken or ill-informed, but which other country serves free lunches to school children?

Not sure Chatelaine.

I think I remember taking my dinner money to school on a Monday.  And with all my kids, they all had to take their dinner money for the week on a Monday.

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Oh right: you paid for it, yes?

Yes.

I think in recent years free meals have been made available to infants only.

The Tories want to scrap that and give them free breakfasts instead

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/education/theresa-may-branded-lunch-snatcher-free-school-meals-dropped/

Yes, was it not a Lib dem policy when they were in coalition with the Tories?
My grandson's school has a Breakfast Club. You have to pay for the cereal, toast & orange juice but it's very busy. I see them all getting dropped off in the morning by the mums rushing off to work.

Freedom wrote:Not since 1906 apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-199840,00.html

Ah yes thanks, Arthur Balfour, he did though resign as PM in 1905, and then lost his Parliamentary seat a year later in 1906, so not actually a Prime Minister at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Balfour


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He resigned as Prime Minister in December 1905 and the following month the Conservatives suffered a landslide defeat at the 1906 election, in which he lost his own seat.