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Re:Dr.Amarals Defence Funds-UPDATE-OVER £50.000 so far.
So the hearing is not going ahead tomorrow have I read this right?
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here is the article...
Posted by portugalpress on October 06, 2015
Online intrigue as McCanns close Twitter page and Amaral’s fund ‘goes missing’
Another eventful week online has seen the parents of Madeleine McCann shut down the Twitter account set up to find their daughter due to an “avalanche of offensive commentaries” from supporters of the family of Ben Needham - the toddler who went missing from the Greek island of Kos in 1991.
The toxic mail was prompted by the findmadeleine feed’s “blocking” of an account supporting the hunt for Ben after Ben’s mother publicly questioned the £10.1 million (€13.6 million) of taxpayer’s money ploughed into the ongoing police hunt for Madeleine, when only €800,000 has been spent over many more years looking for her son. But as the wrangle plays out in British and Portuguese press, another glitch has come to the surface.
Internet meddlers have “blocked” the gofundme page raising money to help beleaguered former detective Gonçalo Amaral fight the civil case taken out against him by the McCanns. Whereas the page could previously be found by Google in a simple internet search, this week it suddenly became untraceable. Bizarrely, search engine Bing still leads users to it - which has led to the online question: “Has Google prevented the search for Gonçalo Amaral Go Fund Me page… and if so why?”
The truth is that the page still exists and has now raised over €68,000. In the British press this week, Jerry Lawton of the Daily Star incorrectly stated that “a new libel case” begins tomorrow in Lisbon that could see appeal judges “strip the couple of £357,000 (just under €500,000), which they “hope to use” to find Madeleine. The case does not begin tomorrow. A legal source has told us the appeal is in the process of being considered and there is no indication for the time being when judges will reach a decision.
But what the Gofundme appeal online has ensured, said the source, is that Gonçalo Amaral is in a position to continue his legal fight, which he has repeatedly said centres on his own right to freedom of expression.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
http://portugalresident.com/online-intrigue-as-mccanns-close-twitter-page-and-amaral%E2%80%99s-fund-%E2%80%98goes-missing%E2%80%99
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Andrew wrote:That's more like it...
I heard that Hideho, mentioned that it was the wrong date or something. Reliable source. The 10 and the 7 were the wrong way round. Although might of got that wrong as well...
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Oops, inadvertently quoted my own post, instead of Costellos from above. Or below. Can't recall..
Oh dear, certain people might think I'm Costellos sock now.
But anyway, wanted to highlight what I heard hideho said (through a close source)..
Oh dear, certain people might think I'm Costellos sock now.
But anyway, wanted to highlight what I heard hideho said (through a close source)..
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Just to clarify, my 'sauce' is completely different to HDH's source.
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Re:Dr. Amarals Defence Funds -UPDATE - over £50.000 so far.
Andrew wrote:Oops, inadvertently quoted my own post, instead of Costellos from above. Or below. Can't recall..
Oh dear, certain people might think I'm Costellos sock now.
But anyway, wanted to highlight what I heard hideho said (through a close source)..
Andrew stay calm I'm sure most posters would agree there certainly couldn't be two of you, you are unique. I realised you had quoted yourself straight away, you are hilarious please don't ever change. Cheers.
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Cheers costello (or am I now talking to myself / or are you talking to yourself....)
No, don't play those games (which observed elsewhere for a long time, and find it hilariously pathetic with it).
So back to topic, is it tomorrow or not.....
Come on G.A..
No, don't play those games (which observed elsewhere for a long time, and find it hilariously pathetic with it).
So back to topic, is it tomorrow or not.....
Come on G.A..
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Re:Dr.Amarals Defence Funds-UPDATE- over £50.000 so far.
Andrew wrote:Cheers costello (or am I now talking to myself / or are you talking to yourself....)
No, don't play those games (which observed elsewhere for a long time, and find it hilariously pathetic with it).
So back to topic, is it tomorrow or not.....
Come on G.A..
Andrew any chance you could find out as you are always spot on with your links, news etc. I honestly thought the hearing was tomorrow especially with all the distractions over the last couple of days.
costello- Posts : 2410
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Hi de Ho posted across the way today that the date is wrong. What we took to be 7 Oct was actually 10 July when the appeal was filed. So a mix up in the meaning of 7/10/07.She said no actual date for conclusions.
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You mean all the McCann-generated angst was for nothing? Haw, Haw, Haw
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This is posted on the Pamalam site by Anne Guedes I don't know if anything has changed or not?
Sorry it's a long post
Libel trial McCann v Goncalo Amaral - Confirmation of Appeal translation from Wednesday 07 October 2015
Process: 1454/09.5TVLSB
Authors/ Applicants: Kate Marie Healy McCann and others
Subject: Appeal
Your Ref: Defendant Gonçalo de Sousa Amaral
Regarding the above referenced case file, you are notified of the admissibility of the appeal as well as of the content of the order released in EP (Electronic Process), with the reference number 338001289 (Pgs 2382 of the PP (Paper Copy), of which a copy is attached.
Moreover you are notified that the case proceedings will be at the Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa on October 7, 2015
Conclusion :
Within the scope of article 617-1 of the CPC (Civil Processual Code) and referring to the grounds of the decision, I consider that the nullities pointed out in the appeal don’t occur and the judgement is maintained as issued.
Appeal:
I accept the filed appeals, since they meet the deadlines, have been submitted by those with authority to do so and because the decision is appealable. (Articles 629, 631 and 641 all of the new CPC).
The appeal request (Article 645-a) concerns the proceedings with a merely devolutive effect (Article 647-1). See notes below
I notify and declare the release of the proceedings to the Venerable Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa (Lisbon’s Appeal Court )
Note : “Devolutive effect” means that the proceedings (facts and law) will be transferred to a higher Court and examined again.
Artigo 645-a of the new CPC (ex 691A-1a)
Modo de subida
Way of transferring the process to a higher court
1. Sobem nos próprios autos as apelações interpostas :
Are transferred the proceedings referring to the appeals filed against :
a) Das decisões que ponham termo ao processo
The decisions that put an end to the trial
Artigo 647-1 of the new CPC (ex 692)
Efeito da apelação
Effect of the appeal
1. A apelação tem efeito meramente devolutivo, excepto nos casos previstos nos números seguintes.
The appeal has a merely devolutive effect, except as provided in the following paragraphs.
Note : As those following paragraphs aren't quoted, there's no exception here. The last of the few cases contemplated by the law in which the appeal suspends the process is :
4. Fora dos casos previstos no número anterior, o recorrente pode requerer, ao interpor o recurso, que a apelação tenha efeito suspensivo quando a execução da decisão lhe cause prejuízo considerável e se ofereça para prestar caução, ficando a atribuição desse efeito condicionada à efectiva prestação da caução no prazo fixado pelo tribunal.
Apart from the cases provided for in the preceding paragraph, the applicant may request, when filing the appeal, a suspensive effect, if the execution of the decision would cause him considerable damage, and offer to provide a bail, the granting of this effect being conditioned to an actual deposit within the time limit prescribed by the court.
Sorry it's a long post
Libel trial McCann v Goncalo Amaral - Confirmation of Appeal translation from Wednesday 07 October 2015
Process: 1454/09.5TVLSB
Authors/ Applicants: Kate Marie Healy McCann and others
Subject: Appeal
Your Ref: Defendant Gonçalo de Sousa Amaral
Regarding the above referenced case file, you are notified of the admissibility of the appeal as well as of the content of the order released in EP (Electronic Process), with the reference number 338001289 (Pgs 2382 of the PP (Paper Copy), of which a copy is attached.
Moreover you are notified that the case proceedings will be at the Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa on October 7, 2015
Conclusion :
Within the scope of article 617-1 of the CPC (Civil Processual Code) and referring to the grounds of the decision, I consider that the nullities pointed out in the appeal don’t occur and the judgement is maintained as issued.
Appeal:
I accept the filed appeals, since they meet the deadlines, have been submitted by those with authority to do so and because the decision is appealable. (Articles 629, 631 and 641 all of the new CPC).
The appeal request (Article 645-a) concerns the proceedings with a merely devolutive effect (Article 647-1). See notes below
I notify and declare the release of the proceedings to the Venerable Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa (Lisbon’s Appeal Court )
Note : “Devolutive effect” means that the proceedings (facts and law) will be transferred to a higher Court and examined again.
Artigo 645-a of the new CPC (ex 691A-1a)
Modo de subida
Way of transferring the process to a higher court
1. Sobem nos próprios autos as apelações interpostas :
Are transferred the proceedings referring to the appeals filed against :
a) Das decisões que ponham termo ao processo
The decisions that put an end to the trial
Artigo 647-1 of the new CPC (ex 692)
Efeito da apelação
Effect of the appeal
1. A apelação tem efeito meramente devolutivo, excepto nos casos previstos nos números seguintes.
The appeal has a merely devolutive effect, except as provided in the following paragraphs.
Note : As those following paragraphs aren't quoted, there's no exception here. The last of the few cases contemplated by the law in which the appeal suspends the process is :
4. Fora dos casos previstos no número anterior, o recorrente pode requerer, ao interpor o recurso, que a apelação tenha efeito suspensivo quando a execução da decisão lhe cause prejuízo considerável e se ofereça para prestar caução, ficando a atribuição desse efeito condicionada à efectiva prestação da caução no prazo fixado pelo tribunal.
Apart from the cases provided for in the preceding paragraph, the applicant may request, when filing the appeal, a suspensive effect, if the execution of the decision would cause him considerable damage, and offer to provide a bail, the granting of this effect being conditioned to an actual deposit within the time limit prescribed by the court.
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Re:Dr.Amarals Defence Funds-UPDATE- over £50.000 so far.
chirpyinsect wrote:Hi de Ho posted across the way today that the date is wrong. What we took to be 7 Oct was actually 10 July when the appeal was filed. So a mix up in the meaning of 7/10/07.She said no actual date for conclusions.costello wrote:Andrew wrote:Cheers costello (or am I now talking to myself / or are you talking to yourself....)
No, don't play those games (which observed elsewhere for a long time, and find it hilariously pathetic with it).
So back to topic, is it tomorrow or not.....
Come on G.A..
Andrew any chance you could find out as you are always spot on with your links, news etc. I honestly thought the hearing was tomorrow especially with all the distractions over the last couple of days.
Cheers Chirpy, I understand now. So why all the strange goings on the last few days, obviously no connection then. I feel a bit more positive now.
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I would hazard a guess, that for a while, the (losers) on the McTeam, have been trying their best to put a halt on things.
They know they're running out of time. To the end though, when you expect a paycheck.
It's interesting (as an observer) to watch how they play things, manipulate, angles they intentionally come in at..
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They know they're running out of time. To the end though, when you expect a paycheck.
It's interesting (as an observer) to watch how they play things, manipulate, angles they intentionally come in at..
Remainder of post removed.
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Mystery surrounds ownership of the Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence Fund as originator Leanne Baulch exits site. #McCann
???!
Mystery surrounds ownership of the Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence Fund as originator Leanne Baulch exits site. #McCann
???!
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It was made public a while ago, although I can't remember where I read it now, that Leanne is still studying at college and has her child to look after and the fund was handed over to GA's official website - the pjga.Châtelaine wrote:UK Justice Forum @Justice_forum
Mystery surrounds ownership of the Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence Fund as originator Leanne Baulch exits site. #McCann
???!
The Justice Forum seems to be trying to stir things, yet again, to stop people from donating.
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Perhaps this has arisen due to the latest google scandal re Dr Amaral's fund no longer showing??
More dirty tricks?
If so, more donations will flood in to Dr Amaral, and that's a given!
More dirty tricks?
If so, more donations will flood in to Dr Amaral, and that's a given!
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Yes quite a while ago now that Leanne left and as you said DFM pjga now run it.Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:It was made public a while ago, although I can't remember where I read it now, that Leanne is still studying at college and has her child to look after and the fund was handed over to GA's official website - the pjga.Châtelaine wrote:UK Justice Forum @Justice_forum
Mystery surrounds ownership of the Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence Fund as originator Leanne Baulch exits site. #McCann
???!
The Justice Forum seems to be trying to stir things, yet again, to stop people from donating.
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More donations have flooded in because of the debacle regarding the Fund not showing up on Google searches, but it seems to be a technical issue and the fact that the pjga Fund doesn't have a Facebook account. I believe all Funds started on the GoFundMe site have to be connected to a Facebook account to be recognised on Google search (I think I've got that right).pennylane wrote:Perhaps this has arisen due to the latest google scandal re Dr Amaral's fund no longer showing??
More dirty tricks?
If so, more donations will flood in to Dr Amaral, and that's a given!
Anyway it's made more money for the Fund so who are we to argue?
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Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:More donations have flooded in because of the debacle regarding the Fund not showing up on Google searches, but it seems to be a technical issue and the fact that the pjga Fund doesn't have a Facebook account. I believe all Funds started on the GoFundMe site have to be connected to a Facebook account.pennylane wrote:Perhaps this has arisen due to the latest google scandal re Dr Amaral's fund no longer showing??
More dirty tricks?
If so, more donations will flood in to Dr Amaral, and that's a given!
Anyway it's made more money for the Fund so who are we to argue?
Indeed yes! The dirty tricks of the McCann supporters are becoming most unhurtful and helpful!
Thanks for explaining the Facebook issue DFM! It makes sense, except for the timing when it happened, which was quite some time afterwards?
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The Facebook account thing may be a new strategy brought in to stop fraud (to stop anyone opening a GoFundMe site but has no connection to anything else on the internet, they can then be monitored or found through a Facebook account it they do a runner with people's money) or it could be because Google (through Facebook) get a percentage of the GoFundMe accounts' commission to advertise the GFM funds on the Google search engine.
I'm only guessing of course as to why Google stopped showing GA's fund on their searches. It could also have been due to nefarious goings on, and people tried to scupper the account.
I'm only guessing of course as to why Google stopped showing GA's fund on their searches. It could also have been due to nefarious goings on, and people tried to scupper the account.
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I don't think I've ever gone into google and not found what I was looking for, but it could be new as you say.
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costello wrote:Andrew wrote:Seen this tweet from a few hours back..
https://mobile.twitter.com/umweltbuerger/status/633574533786681344
Yes Andrew the tweet was taken from Hideho's comment on the gofundme site this morning. Leanne only monitored the site until the target amount was reached. Just goes to show what kind of person she is, amazing, job done then she pales into insignificance. What a lovely lady, no ego, truly genuine.
Leanne handed the fund over to the PJ a couple of months ago.
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