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Post  Guest Thu 14 May 2015, 9:17 pm

Top cop Hogan Howe pledges to keep the investigation open.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-top-officer-pledges-5699591#ICID=sharebar_twitter


Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, Met Police Commissioner, reacted angrily to concerns raised by the Police Federation about the millions devoted to the case

The search for Madeleine McCann is “moving on a pace” and will not end until all avenues are exhausted, Britain’s top police officer said today.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, reacted angrily to concerns raised by the Police Federation about the millions of pounds of public money devoted to the case.

He said: “It’s not for them to decide which investigation we carry out, it’s my decision. This investigation is funded by the government and the only thing that will decide whether or not it continues are the chances of success in finding that girl.

"It’s really for me and not a [Police] Federation issue.”

Portuguese prosecutor Ines Sequeira said she was determined to crack the case when she took it over last October, bringing fresh hope to Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry.



Sir Bernard said of the investigation: “It’s moving on apace at the moment in terms of the relationship with the Portuguese and that is to be welcomed. As long as there’s a basis for doing the investigation we will continue.”

He said the Prime Minister David Cameron and Home Secretary Teresa May support the investigation.

Madeleine was just three when she went missing from her family’s Algarve holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3 2007 as Kate and Gerry, sat at a nearby tapas restaurant with friends.

Portuguese police closed their investigation in 2008 but the Metropolitan Police launched their own inquiry, codenamed Operation Grange, three years later.

Sir Bernard was responding to concerns raised by John Tully, chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, who said in March: “It’s time to re-focus on what we need to do to keep London safe.

"We no longer have the resources to conduct specialist inquiries all over the world which have nothing to do with London.

“The Met has long been seen as the last resort for investigations others have struggled with elsewhere. It is surprising to see an inquiry like the McCann investigation ring-fenced. I’ve heard a few rumblings of discontent about it from lots of sources."

He added: “When the force is facing a spike in murder investigations, it’s not surprising there is resentment of significant resources diverted to a case that has no apparent connection to London.”

Operation Grange has cost almost £8million. More than £100,000 has been spent on the transport of British authorities to and from Portugal. The money comes from a special Home Office fund.


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Post  Guest Thu 14 May 2015, 9:22 pm

Sir Bernard said of the investigation: “It’s moving on apace at the moment in terms of the relationship with the Portuguese and that is to be welcomed. As long as there’s a basis for doing the investigation we will continue.”

If that is all there is,moving on apace in terms of the relationship with the PJ,then there isn't much investigating going on.

But read between the lines it could also mean we are onboard with the PJ.

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Post  dogs don't lie Thu 14 May 2015, 9:58 pm

So there's a basis for the investigation and onboard with the PJ? Hmm

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Post  chilli Thu 14 May 2015, 11:33 pm

Or maybe the PJ has given them a copy of the files Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post  dogs don't lie Fri 15 May 2015, 8:15 am

As long as the forensics are kept in Portugal, I do think OG can't pull a whitewash, but if forensics go to the UK, not sure who would get their mits on them.
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Post  Poppy Fri 15 May 2015, 8:21 am

I’ve heard a few rumblings of discontent about it from lots of sources." Very Happy I like this bit.
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Post  Guest Fri 15 May 2015, 8:29 am

Getting on towards a £million since DCI Wall took over,the sun must be shining in Portugal by now,soon be time for more visits.

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Post  Poe Fri 15 May 2015, 9:01 am

Oh but you missed a bit of the article:

Madeleine McCann: Top officer pledges that hunt for missing girl will continue apace  Kate-McCann-Gerry-McCann

Hope: Maddie's parents have been reassured that search will continue
Maddie's parent's look well reassured in that photo, don't they? Yep, that's a reassured couple if ever I saw one. Smile
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Post  Guest Fri 15 May 2015, 9:20 am

OMG, what an appalling picture! I guess that's what guilt and the fear of discovery does to one. It's like looking at The Picture Of Dorian Gray. In contrast, here she is promoting her bewk about "her lost daughter, Madeleine".

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Post  Andrew Fri 15 May 2015, 9:52 am

At the bottom of the article, showing a picture.

"Sniffer dog search for Maddie McCann last year"

It's a shame they couldn't remind their readers what the sniffer dogs found back in 2007.
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Post  Guest Fri 15 May 2015, 10:02 am

Poe wrote:Oh but you missed a bit of the article:

Madeleine McCann: Top officer pledges that hunt for missing girl will continue apace  Kate-McCann-Gerry-McCann

Hope: Maddie's parents have been reassured that search will continue
Maddie's parent's look well reassured in that photo, don't they? Yep, that's a reassured couple if ever I saw one. Smile

I haven't managed to work out how to bring pictures along with the text.

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Post  Guest Fri 15 May 2015, 8:26 pm

Madeleine McCann: Top officer pledges that hunt for missing girl will continue apace
  Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, Met Police Commissioner, reacted angrily to concerns raised by the Police Federation about the millions devoted to the case

and then we have

Police will have to pick and choose what they prioritise, warns Britain’s top officer
Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe gives biggest intervention yet in the debate about how police are to cope with large budget cuts
“But now we must be clear. Every time we’re given a new priority, we have to ask the public: what do you want us to do less of, to de-prioritise?
if only it were true Rolling Eyes




So who is going to have to suffer for the sake of the McCanns taking precious funds out of the services..    Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe -Teresa May - David Cameron .   No

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Post  Poppy Fri 15 May 2015, 9:33 pm

Somebody over the road Smile (I love that saying) said John Tully made that statement in March so why is BHH responding in May? could be spin.
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Post  Guest Sat 16 May 2015, 10:47 am



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Hope: Maddie's parents have been reassured that search will continue
Maybe they are worried that the "search" might actually find something.

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Post  Guest Sat 16 May 2015, 10:54 am

Resistor wrote:

Madeleine McCann: Top officer pledges that hunt for missing girl will continue apace  Kate-McCann-Gerry-McCann

Hope: Maddie's parents have been reassured that search will continue
Maybe they are worried that the "search" might actually find something.

They only wanted a review not an investigation.

"Dear Prime Minister,
As a devoted father and family man, you know the importance of children. Our beloved eldest child, Madeleine, was abducted from Praia da Luz, Portugal, four years ago. Since then, we have devoted all our energies to ensuring her safe return.
Today we are asking you - and the British and Portuguese governments - to help find Madeleine and bring her back to her loving family.
We live in hope that Madeleine will be found alive and returned to us. One call might be all that is needed to lead to Madeleine and her abductor.
To this end, we are seeking a joint INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT and COMPREHENSIVE review of ALL information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance. Thus far, there has been NO formal review of the material held by the police authorities - which is routine practice in most major unsolved crimes."

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Post  Châtelaine Sat 16 May 2015, 11:01 am

IMO too. Be careful what you ask for ...

Always reminds me of a short story:

"The Monkey's Paw" is a supernatural short story by author W. W. Jacobs first published in England in 1902.

In the story, three wishes are granted to the owner of the monkey's paw, but the wishes come with an enormous price for interfering with fate.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw
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Post  PeterMac Sat 16 May 2015, 12:52 pm

Like the man who prayed for a d*** that reached the ground.
The Archangel Gabriel appeared, and cut his legs off at the knee !
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Post  Guest Sat 16 May 2015, 2:48 pm

PeterMac wrote:Like the man who prayed for a d*** that reached the ground.
The Archangel Gabriel appeared, and cut his legs off at the knee !

Haha!

Extra funny for me, because my Eastern European friend Gabriel would cheerfully do that to somebody, if the price was right!

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Post  Châtelaine Sat 16 May 2015, 2:55 pm

ROFL

ETA to both :-)
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Post  Guest Sat 16 May 2015, 6:13 pm

Not sure where to put this,but have read the judgement again McCanns V Amaral,page 13.

Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the English friends that were with them on holiday there, they had no known friends or contacts in Portugal.” (...)

If as BHH,says its going to continue,does trying to find the evidence for the above come into play.

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Post  Guest Sat 16 May 2015, 6:25 pm

caricature wrote:Not sure where to put this,but have read the judgement again McCanns V Amaral,page 13.

Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the English friends that were with them on holiday there, they had no known friends or contacts in Portugal.” (...)

If as BHH,says its going to continue,does trying to find the evidence for the above come into play.

So did they or didn't they go to Sagres then?


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Post  Guest Sat 16 May 2015, 6:31 pm

Seicento wrote:
caricature wrote:Not sure where to put this,but have read the judgement again McCanns V Amaral,page 13.

Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the English friends that were with them on holiday there, they had no known friends or contacts in Portugal.” (...)

If as BHH,says its going to continue,does trying to find the evidence for the above come into play.

So did they or didn't they go to Sagres then?


Hmmm,don't know seems unlikely from that,it part of proven fact no15 which starts off as.

15. The criminal investigation was put to an end by the Procurador da Republica (who lead the investigation) in the archiving dispatch dated 21.07.08 - Courtesy of Astro who translated the first part of the so-called AG Report :

"Taking into account that there were certain points in the arguidos' and witnesses' statements that revealed, apparently at least, contradiction or that lacked physical confirmation, it was decided to carry out the "reconstruction of the fact", a diligence that is consecrated in article 150 of the Penal Process Code in the sense of duly clarifying, on the very location of the facts, the following very important details, among others:

1 – The physical, real and effective proximity between Jane Tanner, Gerald McCann and Jeremy Wilkins, at the moment when the first person walked by them, and which coincided with the sighting of the supposed suspect, carrying a child. It results, in our perspective, strange that neither Gerald McCann nor Jeremy Wilkins saw her, or the alleged abductor, despite the exiguity of the space and the peacefulness of the area;

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Post  PeterMac Sat 16 May 2015, 10:30 pm

caricature wrote:Not sure where to put this,but have read the judgement again McCanns V Amaral,page 13.

Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the English friends that were with them on holiday there, they had no known friends or contacts in Portugal.” (...)

If as BHH,says its going to continue,does trying to find the evidence for the above come into play.

The issue for me, is that they have got this very slightly wrong.
Consider
Died during the night of 2/3 . . .
Parents come home separately, sleep in different rooms, don't put the lights on, just crash out after a hard nights Tapas and drinks. (We've all done it > > > ?)
3/5/7 discover body behind sofa, cold stiff and leaking
Blue bag in wardrobe,
Afternoon the ENTIRE T7 group banished to the Paraiso, for the first and last time, and are trapped there until 6pm, for no reason anyone has ever explained.
KM jogs past to check they are all there and to give herself an alibi
GM suffers ruptured achilles tendon, and has the entire afternoon to do whatever needs doing.    
(Yes, I do think I have the clue - involving a cabinet freezer "within 5 minutes of PdL by Taxi".  
Details involve other important 'arguido' persons, and are findable on line)
Man in Tennis clothes carrying blue tennis bag, going to play tennis - what taxi driver would even register, let alone remember.
GM returns and starts playing tennis like a demon - Achilles Tendon Miracles happen if you are Catholic
to the extent that he sends someone else to check the children and his wife . . . !  ¿ Que ?

Subsequently use car to carry thawing body, which leaks into the boot, to wherever she may be.
(There was a small chapel suddenly rebuilt a year later, for no reason anyone can understand, in the triangle . . .)
Then, change date on Last Photo, and voila !
Hecho.

Very simple. No need for conspiracies, no need for aliens, CIA, MI5/6/7/8/9, Government collusion,
Just ONE stupid decision.
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Post  dogs don't lie Sat 16 May 2015, 10:53 pm

Sounds plausible, but what about smithman?

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Post  Guest Sat 16 May 2015, 11:09 pm

Taxi ride 5 mins from PDL,water works?

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