The case of Amber Peat
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
The Super didn't make a special point re Cornwall. He was asked about Cornwall and also about the possibility of Amber having tried to get to Scotland to see her father and he said something about checks in all directions or words to that effect. I have looked on youtube but can't find an unedited version of the press conference.
One thing cleared up is re the last time Amber was seen in the Mansfield area at about 5.30pm Saturday. The Super's words were in line with the statement on the Notts police site, that that was when she went missing from home.
The ambiguous media reports made it sound as if that 5.30 sighting was by an independent witness after she had left the house. This was the time given by her parents as being when she left the house. Vanished and not seen since.
MIRROR REPORT
Amber's mum Kerry told the conference her daughter did not use social media sites because she was too young.
"I won't let her until she's old enough," she said.
She also described the moment the teenager stormed out.
"We were in the living room and I heard the front door slam and that's when I realised. I went to the front door and looked outside but I couldn't see her."
BBC REPORT
Mrs Peat said "nothing else happened" that would lead to Amber leaving, apart from a disagreement over chores.
She added: "I was upstairs and I heard a door bang.
"I went downstairs and she wasn't around, so I looked outside and she was nowhere."
One thing cleared up is re the last time Amber was seen in the Mansfield area at about 5.30pm Saturday. The Super's words were in line with the statement on the Notts police site, that that was when she went missing from home.
The ambiguous media reports made it sound as if that 5.30 sighting was by an independent witness after she had left the house. This was the time given by her parents as being when she left the house. Vanished and not seen since.
MIRROR REPORT
Amber's mum Kerry told the conference her daughter did not use social media sites because she was too young.
"I won't let her until she's old enough," she said.
She also described the moment the teenager stormed out.
"We were in the living room and I heard the front door slam and that's when I realised. I went to the front door and looked outside but I couldn't see her."
BBC REPORT
Mrs Peat said "nothing else happened" that would lead to Amber leaving, apart from a disagreement over chores.
She added: "I was upstairs and I heard a door bang.
"I went downstairs and she wasn't around, so I looked outside and she was nowhere."
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
Unless the living room is upstairs, Mrs Peat can't have been in both places when she heard the front door slam.
It could just be sloppy journalism of course.
It could just be sloppy journalism of course.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
There will be a new statement from Police in about half hour: https://twitter.com/quentinrayner
The public searches have been called off by Police and there are comments on Facebook/Twitter of forensics at Westfield Lane/Raleigh Road about 1/2 mile from home.
Doesn't look good.
The public searches have been called off by Police and there are comments on Facebook/Twitter of forensics at Westfield Lane/Raleigh Road about 1/2 mile from home.
Doesn't look good.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
Hopefully PMac will post the information he has dug up on Mr Peat that he posted elsewhere. I don't want to bring it over without his permission.
Interesting stuff. Doesn't mean he is guilty of anything else of course but may explain his odd demeanour.
Interesting stuff. Doesn't mean he is guilty of anything else of course but may explain his odd demeanour.
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It is available to anyone who does a name search - I noticed it myself earlier.
A conviction for fraud does not of course mean that he is guilty of anything else.
A conviction for fraud does not of course mean that he is guilty of anything else.
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chirpyinsect wrote:Hopefully PMac will post the information he has dug up on Mr Peat that he posted elsewhere. I don't want to bring it over without his permission.
Interesting stuff. Doesn't mean he is guilty of anything else of course but may explain his odd demeanour.
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/hm-revenue-customs-hmrc/pressreleases/derbyshire-man-jailed-for-tax-fraud-1032020
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So he would have got out on licence in March probably, having to report in regularly to his probation officer. I`m amazed they were in a position to afford a caravan holiday (or even permitted to leave the area) so soon.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
"Police say they are not treating the death as suspicious"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-32986664
Does that mean it was natural causes?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-32986664
Does that mean it was natural causes?
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How strange. It could be suicide I suppose or maybe she died of hypothermia.
However I understand that she was on a path and couldn't have been there since Sunday without being seen earlier.
However I understand that she was on a path and couldn't have been there since Sunday without being seen earlier.
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afaik it means not linked to criminal activity. It might sadly indicate a suicide or accidental death.
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That's what they usually say when it's suspected suicide.
Poor girl. RIP
Poor girl. RIP
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She did look very unhappy in those pics. How sad.
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Freedom wrote:How strange. It could be suicide I suppose or maybe she died of hypothermia.
However I understand that she was on a path and couldn't have been there since Sunday without being seen earlier.
That`s what I wondered initially but surely a post mortem would need to be carried out to determine that. If it is suicide there must have been obvious outward signs to come to that conclusion so early.
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Police saying 'not suspicious' to probably stop 'suspicions' being cast.
I don't think she committed suicide and I don't think she died of hypothermia either.
Very sad indeed but I think the Police know exactly what's happened and all will be revealed soon.
IMO.
I don't think she committed suicide and I don't think she died of hypothermia either.
Very sad indeed but I think the Police know exactly what's happened and all will be revealed soon.
IMO.
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It will all come out in time but the location of the police tent was unusual , on a public footpath close to traffic, [pedestrian and vehicles] which you can see passing by on media reports, outside the taped off area. Maybe this was not the body location but location of forensic evidence which must be examined in private. Police saying nothing just getting on with their enquiries. To think a girl this young might have been suicidal is so distressing and her family appear to have no idea that she was anything but a happy girl and happiest in the bosom of her family. I hope she was not a victim of online bullying when her parents felt secure in the knowledge of no social media access.
RIP Amber.
RIP Amber.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-32986664
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Some residents expressed surprise the discovery of the body, between two busy roads, had not been made earlier.
Yolanda Cassidy, who lives next to the site, said: "It is a very public area. I wondered if she had climbed over gates [into a nearby property] but they have dogs so I can't imagine she would be in there.
"I went shopping on Monday and walked across there. People are back and forth, it's nearly a main road, people go up and down. I can't believe she's been there since Saturday."
Police officers have also informally confirmed they had searched the area since Amber went missing.
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Some residents expressed surprise the discovery of the body, between two busy roads, had not been made earlier.
Yolanda Cassidy, who lives next to the site, said: "It is a very public area. I wondered if she had climbed over gates [into a nearby property] but they have dogs so I can't imagine she would be in there.
"I went shopping on Monday and walked across there. People are back and forth, it's nearly a main road, people go up and down. I can't believe she's been there since Saturday."
Police officers have also informally confirmed they had searched the area since Amber went missing.
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The Dad said they had only just moved there.
He`d only been out of prison a couple of months and still on licence for another 8 months.
Are prisoners given new homes when they come out of prison ?
They are only given a basic £58, so how did they manage to find the money for a caravan holiday in Cornwall? Unless he was able to keep his proceeds of crime from defrauding HMRC.
He`d only been out of prison a couple of months and still on licence for another 8 months.
Are prisoners given new homes when they come out of prison ?
They are only given a basic £58, so how did they manage to find the money for a caravan holiday in Cornwall? Unless he was able to keep his proceeds of crime from defrauding HMRC.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
Presumably Mrs Peat is able to claim for herself and the children?
It is really strange how Amber was not found sooner in a busy area. Perhaps she was wondering around lost and confused for a while but, even with that scenario, you'd think that someone would have seen her.
It is really strange how Amber was not found sooner in a busy area. Perhaps she was wondering around lost and confused for a while but, even with that scenario, you'd think that someone would have seen her.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
Hastily put there IMO.
Sorry if i'm not allowed to state that?
Sorry if i'm not allowed to state that?
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Let's hope that the full story comes out eventually.
I can't imagine that the police would say that there are no suspicious circumstances if that isn't so.
I can't imagine that the police would say that there are no suspicious circumstances if that isn't so.
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Freedom wrote:Let's hope that the full story comes out eventually.
I can't imagine that the police would say that there are no suspicious circumstances if that isn't so.
Maybe protocol has slightly changed.
A 13 year old surely does not go and hide in a bush, next to a footpath and a busy road to commit suicide.
A 13 year old surely does not go and hide in a bush and purposely wait to catch hypothermia.
Just my thoughts but yes I'm sure the full story will be out soon.
Post mortem later this afternoon apparently.
RIP.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
The Daily Mail mentions the Stepfather's Jail term.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3108949/Tributes-Amber-Peat-body-park-near-home.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3108949/Tributes-Amber-Peat-body-park-near-home.html
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
Andrew wrote:Hastily put there IMO.
Sorry if i'm not allowed to state that?
I agree with that comment. Hastily put there after the area had been searched.
The 2 photos of her released look like a very unhappy child, she almost seemed to be glaring with distain at the person taking the photos as if she didn't want to be photographed or she detested the person taking them.
I'm sure the police know more than what they've released to the newspapers - probably to stop speculation as posted on an earlier page.
We can only wait for the official report from the police to be released.
Poor Amber, she died so young, what a terrible waste of a life.
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The step father was sentenced to 16 months for an income tax fiddle and is now unemployed. It seems a harsh sentence for (presumably) a first offence as no earlier sentences are mentioned. It does not seem relevant for the paper to mention it. If it had been for a violent crime, maybe involving young girls then it could be relevant.
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