The case of Amber Peat
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Re:Another missing teenager - Amber Peat.
Sorry but this doesn't wear well with me. Amber either committed suicide or she met her tragic end some other way, I am keeping my options open here. Just my thoughts as ever.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
The Daily Star also said that no family members were present.
"The external examination and the presence of a ligature mark around the neck, in my opinion, is most likely due to hanging."
Did they not find the actual ligature then or what...
Just seems a bit odd imo.
"The external examination and the presence of a ligature mark around the neck, in my opinion, is most likely due to hanging."
Did they not find the actual ligature then or what...
Just seems a bit odd imo.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
If there was no ligature found, then something is seriously amiss.
Let's hope that the truth, whatever it is, comes out when the inquest resumes.
Let's hope that the truth, whatever it is, comes out when the inquest resumes.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-33880635
In my opinion, there is a lot to come out about this family's circumstances.
In my opinion, there is a lot to come out about this family's circumstances.
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More info here about the circumstances of poor Amber Peat. All too late now of course.
http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/amber-peat-family-investigated-after-tragic-teen-s-death-1-7404551
http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/amber-peat-family-investigated-after-tragic-teen-s-death-1-7404551
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
I don't see how Amber's natural father is in any position to criticise what he has supposedly heard from Social Services if it is true that he hadn't even seen her for 3 years.
I am assuming that was by choice and not because he was banned from doing so.
I am assuming that was by choice and not because he was banned from doing so.
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Am I reading this right - that Danny (the stepfather) has split from Kelly ?
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
It says in the article that he is now living elsewhere.
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The tears have started and I'm only up. Poor girl.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
I don't think that this will come as a surprise to anyone.
I wasn't worried about Danny Peat's fraud conviction but another one for starving a rabbit to death filled me with horror and made me wonder what else he might be capable of.
I wasn't worried about Danny Peat's fraud conviction but another one for starving a rabbit to death filled me with horror and made me wonder what else he might be capable of.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
The look on her face in the photo that was released when she disappeared says it all. I remember we commented on it at the time - there was very deep resentment and fear and unhappiness on her face... and now we know why.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
Really is so sad.
I have a feeling that there's still more to come out in all this.
I have a feeling that there's still more to come out in all this.
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
This is what Amber's natural father has to say on Facebook.
Amber Peat - Little Angel
4 August at 14:22 · Edited ·
These words are from Amber's dear father. I hope you get justice Adrian. Thank you for sharing.
"I've got my answers and still I've had to fight to even speak to my other daughter.
Crazy that after 3 years of looking that I find amber has hung herself over a cool box!
No as her mother is making things hard for me its now my turn as I think it's disgusting that she still keeps my other daughter away from me.
Facts not fiction & certainly not an opinion.
1. Social services investigated the household last year bit they moved!
2. Amber had previously asked for me but no contact nothing.
3. Danny removed for neglect & sevear punishment week after amber found.
4. Child protection order in place.
5. Ambers surname is pick ford as I'm her farther & I'm on birth certificate yet have no parental rights.
6. Social services are ducking idiots.
7. There you go amber your voice is public
Love you lots
Dad
Xxxxxxx"
Amber Peat - Little Angel
4 August at 14:22 · Edited ·
These words are from Amber's dear father. I hope you get justice Adrian. Thank you for sharing.
"I've got my answers and still I've had to fight to even speak to my other daughter.
Crazy that after 3 years of looking that I find amber has hung herself over a cool box!
No as her mother is making things hard for me its now my turn as I think it's disgusting that she still keeps my other daughter away from me.
Facts not fiction & certainly not an opinion.
1. Social services investigated the household last year bit they moved!
2. Amber had previously asked for me but no contact nothing.
3. Danny removed for neglect & sevear punishment week after amber found.
4. Child protection order in place.
5. Ambers surname is pick ford as I'm her farther & I'm on birth certificate yet have no parental rights.
6. Social services are ducking idiots.
7. There you go amber your voice is public
Love you lots
Dad
Xxxxxxx"
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Amber Peat
The local newspaper seems a bit upset at the Daily Mail article. Puts their town in a poor light apparently ! Their personal feelings are nothing compared to Amber's sad life and death, so I think this is an astonishing.
The link may not work, so hope it's OK to copy the article. http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/comment-amber-peat-national-newspaper-has-gone-too-far-1-7421965
COMMENT: Amber Peat - National newspaper has gone too far
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Andy Done-Johnson
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11:49Friday 21 August 2015
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Today a national newspaper has once again put Mansfield in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons, speculating upon the reasons for tragic Amber Peat’s death.
The Chad has received a number of questions as to why? Why would the press do this to Amber and her family? Why would the right-wing national press guess at what might have contributed to the death of one of our own?
To our readers, the people of Mansfield and to Amber’s family, The Chad would like to answer those questions by stating categorically that we are not like the national press, and your Chad will not be speculating on what may or may not have contributed to the passing of a beautiful little girl.
Nottinghamshire County Council has confirmed that a Serious Case Review is under way. A file is also being prepared for Nottinghamshire’s Coroner. Nobody should believe a word anyone says until this due process is complete.
Of course, Chad has a duty as the town’s newspaper of record to publish the findings of the inquest. We will do so as sensitively as we possibly can, when the time is right. Ensuring Amber’s achievements and contributions to her community are celebrated.
But The Chad also has a duty to stand up for the people of this town. With that, our Editorial Director James Mitchinson will be writing personally to the editor of the national newspaper in question to ask him why he has allowed such a scurrilous article to cause so much upset in our town.
Andy Done-Johnson
Content Editor
Mansfield Chad
The link may not work, so hope it's OK to copy the article. http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/comment-amber-peat-national-newspaper-has-gone-too-far-1-7421965
COMMENT: Amber Peat - National newspaper has gone too far
editorial image
Andy Done-Johnson
andy.donejohnson@jpress.co.uk
11:49Friday 21 August 2015
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HAVE YOUR SAY
Today a national newspaper has once again put Mansfield in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons, speculating upon the reasons for tragic Amber Peat’s death.
The Chad has received a number of questions as to why? Why would the press do this to Amber and her family? Why would the right-wing national press guess at what might have contributed to the death of one of our own?
To our readers, the people of Mansfield and to Amber’s family, The Chad would like to answer those questions by stating categorically that we are not like the national press, and your Chad will not be speculating on what may or may not have contributed to the passing of a beautiful little girl.
Nottinghamshire County Council has confirmed that a Serious Case Review is under way. A file is also being prepared for Nottinghamshire’s Coroner. Nobody should believe a word anyone says until this due process is complete.
Of course, Chad has a duty as the town’s newspaper of record to publish the findings of the inquest. We will do so as sensitively as we possibly can, when the time is right. Ensuring Amber’s achievements and contributions to her community are celebrated.
But The Chad also has a duty to stand up for the people of this town. With that, our Editorial Director James Mitchinson will be writing personally to the editor of the national newspaper in question to ask him why he has allowed such a scurrilous article to cause so much upset in our town.
Andy Done-Johnson
Content Editor
Mansfield Chad
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bluebell- Posts : 1677
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
But that surely invites the repost -
"Why is the local paper not doing a proper investigative piece on the entire story "
It is your patch, your people, they know the full story, why not find it and tell it.
"Why is the local paper not doing a proper investigative piece on the entire story "
It is your patch, your people, they know the full story, why not find it and tell it.
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It is the same with the McCann case and the Leicester Mercury Peter.
Zero investigative journalism on what is arguably the biggest missing child case in history. Why?
Zero investigative journalism on what is arguably the biggest missing child case in history. Why?
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Re: The case of Amber Peat
Saw this - came out before the link you posted above Andrew, but maybe connected.
Looks like the Social Services might have to answer some difficult questions.
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Questions-contact-tragic-teenager/story-27690445-detail/story.html
Looks like the Social Services might have to answer some difficult questions.
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Questions-contact-tragic-teenager/story-27690445-detail/story.html
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That's all we ever hear these days when a child has died who was under the noses of the Social Services -
A Derbyshire County Council spokesman said: "Amber's death was extremely sad.
"We don't comment on individual cases.
"A serious case review will be carried out by Nottinghamshire Safeguarding Children's Board to see if any lessons can be learnt.
"We will support this and any other review fully by providing any information which is requested."
It really is becoming a joke, what's the point of "learning lessons" after something terrible has happened. All these "lessons" should have been learned when people were doing their training, there should be a massive manual full of "learning lessons" by now of all the disastrous failings by numerous Social Services and Councils who should have been protecting vulnerable children.
Amber apparently contacted them in January 2014, but again she's another that fell through their net and was left to sink or swim on her own, unfortunately she wasn't strong enough to deal with it all on her own but I bet the people in charge of her case, if they ever opened a file on her that is, won't be sacked or reprimanded.
A Derbyshire County Council spokesman said: "Amber's death was extremely sad.
"We don't comment on individual cases.
"A serious case review will be carried out by Nottinghamshire Safeguarding Children's Board to see if any lessons can be learnt.
"We will support this and any other review fully by providing any information which is requested."
It really is becoming a joke, what's the point of "learning lessons" after something terrible has happened. All these "lessons" should have been learned when people were doing their training, there should be a massive manual full of "learning lessons" by now of all the disastrous failings by numerous Social Services and Councils who should have been protecting vulnerable children.
Amber apparently contacted them in January 2014, but again she's another that fell through their net and was left to sink or swim on her own, unfortunately she wasn't strong enough to deal with it all on her own but I bet the people in charge of her case, if they ever opened a file on her that is, won't be sacked or reprimanded.
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It's so dreadful isn't it DFM. It seems she contacted Derbyshire CC herself (just think how bad things were that Amber contacted the council herself), shocking lack of care there.
Then she moved to Nottingham, which is a differ CC, so she was lost from the records and no follow up done. !
Poor, poor child. As you say "lessons to be learned", yeah right.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/cinderella-schoolgirl-amber-peats-dad-6388806#ICID
An interview with Amber's natural father.
An interview with Amber's natural father.
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I read that yesterday and not to sure what to make of it to be honest.
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