Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Another dreadful case.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/07/toddler-starves-to-death-after-being-left-home-alone-with-sister-2-for-nine-days-6308328/

Freedom wrote:Another dreadful case.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/07/toddler-starves-to-death-after-being-left-home-alone-with-sister-2-for-nine-days-6308328/

That is shocking. How could someone actually do that. She needs locking up for life.

Another pair of savages who have been granted lifelong anonymity and I'm shocked to hear that they are now back on the streets.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/judge-grants-lifelong-anonymity-to-brothers-who-tortured-two-boys/ar-AAlmpIE?li=BBoPRmx&ocid=mailsignout

Was just reading about this so will stick it up:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/seeta-kaur-british-woman-died-abroad-suspicious-circumstances/

An interesting programme based on a book by a very well known pair of authors - though their fame is mainly for the wrong reasons!

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/pearl-harbor-the-new-evidence/on-demand/64589-001

This is the book.

https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062405531/a-matter-of-honor

It seems they`re doing their establishment toadying again - this time making out that Franklin Roosevelt didn`t know about the forthcoming attack by the Japs.  What was it last time - oh yes, that G.W. Bush didn`t know about the forthcoming attack on the twin towers.  Any more - oh yes, to confirm that MBM was in fact abducted.

This was discussed a while back but no idea where? Maybe on this thread somewhere.

Anyway - he's just been sentenced.

Life with a min of 24 years:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4024322/Breaking-Bad-killer-jailed-life-acid-bath-murder-policeman.html

Yes, this one was last mentioned here on 15th November.

What some people are capable of doing to others.......

This case was just being discussed on the local news - BBC North West. Just looked it up and an article yesterday from the DM:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4016048/US-man-charged-1978-killing-British-couple.html

This evil scumbag has been jailed for life.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4036424/Cannabis-addict-father-jailed-life-smothering-baby-death.html

I actually felt physically sick reading that so I advise caution. In fact I wouldn't read it.

I hope he never gets out and dies a slow and horrible death in prison.

A strange case here which might get some people saying - there you are, it can happen!

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/a-dad-was-awakened-by-his-toddler%E2%80%99s-crying-he-found-a-stranger-holding-her-in-the-living-room/ar-AAlILXX?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

A 101-year-old paedophile has been jailed for 13 years for committing a spate of sex offences against young children in the 1970s and 1980s.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/101yearold-paedophile-who-is-britains-oldest-convict-jailed-for-13-years-a3423801.html

Good to see he got locked up in spite of his age.

So am I chrissie  -  only angry that he wasn't charged before now.  He even abused a four year old.   This from your link:

you have no remorse whatsoever."

Mr Bond said his offending against three vulnerable youngsters, one as young as four, had been "repeated and sustained" over many years.

He said the children had been "powerless" to stop the former RAF serviceman, who would threaten and beat those who defied his word.

Mr Bond told him: "One of your victims remembers you as a nasty man, free with your fists, and he would get belted by you."

Clarke would also try to "bribe" his other young victims after abusing them, with sweet money of "10p or 20p".

Were any of our Scottish members near Lockerbie?

Today is the 28th anniversary of the disaster and it was a Wednesday too. I remember that I'd just watched a film on TV about the singer Patsy Cline - which ended with her death in a plane crash - when a news report came in about a plane thought to have crashed onto a petrol station.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

I don't remember a great deal about it.

Here's an alternative Wiki link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103_conspiracy_theories

Not near myself but a lorry driver friend of ours had just driven down the M74 at Lockerbie 30 minutes before the crash.
It was also the 40th birthday of our best man and I had just phoned to wish him well then it came on the 9pm news.

Many tragic stories of course but the one about the young lad who by chance was at a neighbour's house and so survived while his parents and sister were killed, has remained in my mind.

There was also an older brother who apparently had been kicked out of the family home so he had to live with never having patched up whatever the problem was. He didn't get his life back on track and died young of a drugs overdose.

P.S. I've only now learned that the other brother died tragically young too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1371726/Lockerbie-orphan-hit-by-train-had-drunk-14-pints.html

I was reading this earlier on this aft. Will stick it here:

Snipped:

When a horrific murder takes place, particularly in a close-knit community, the impact is felt for decades to come.
But, as well as the pain felt by the victims' families, there is also the physical legacy of the houses and gardens which are inextricably linked to the heinous crimes.
More often than not, houses connected to notorious killings are demolished, in a bid to destroy the memories which will forever be associated with that site.
The move is largely to stop ghoulish souvenir-hunters plundering the house and garden for relics of the notorious crimes - but there is also the reality that most people do not want to live in a home with such sinister connotations.
Here, we take a look at some of the homes on the macabre list of buildings razed to the ground - including Fred and Rose West's House of Horrors and Josef Fritzl's secret dungeon home - as well as those properties which are still standing today, despite their darkened past.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4037870/The-houses-horrors-sinister-properties-notorious-serial-killers-including-Yorkshire-Ripper-Fred-Rose-West-unleashed-heinous-crimes.html

Interesting reading if a bit gruesome.

I don't think that it was necessary to label the photos of Fred and Rose West left and right to distinguish them!

Some of these houses remain standing - could any of us live in them, knowing the history?

Another that was demolished, but isn't listed, is the one where Tia Sharp was killed.

Note the comment on this link about Dennis Nilsen's flat.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-27858261.html

NOTE
Buyers are asked to research the history of this property.

I did notice the website shows nearby similar properties but they are priced £100,000 more !

One of them is actually in the same house!

Freedom wrote:One of them is actually in the same house!

I was wondering about the other tenants in that house. Blimey.

I presume that you mean at the time that Nilsen was arrested?

I know from programmes about the case that they got together en masse - together with Nilsen ironically - to complain to the landlord about the drains being blocked. He sent Dyno Rod round and the rest as they say is history.

What a shock it must have been to find out what had been going on under their noses.

P.S. Another one not on the list is the Philpott house. I'm sure that was demolished rather than being renovated.

Actually no, I was wondering how it had affected the price of other flats in the house.    

Slightly O/T.

Snipped from the DM link about Ian Huntley:

The meticulous clean-up carried out by Huntley and Carr meant that police found no blood, hair or fingerprints from either girl inside the house, except for prints of Holly's hands found on a box of chocolates she had given to Maxine Carr weeks earlier.

This will set 'poster' off.... but I must admit that did 'stand out' a bit when I read it earlier.

Absolutely no trace whatsoever?

I actually can't remember if I've read that before and forgotten or never knew that.