The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
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Did Burke kill JonBenet
Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
Hi all, I watched all the documentary yesterday/last night and am 98% sure he did it.
Just the tiniest doubt. And that comes from his interview when he was 9yrs old.
I'm not sure a 9yr old would be able to keep THAT kind of thing secret.
Just the tiniest doubt. And that comes from his interview when he was 9yrs old.
I'm not sure a 9yr old would be able to keep THAT kind of thing secret.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
That's interesting, WJK. I will definitely be watching it later on this evening.
I suppose even some 9 year olds can be very convincing liars. Especially if they're coached in what to say and not to say.
I suppose even some 9 year olds can be very convincing liars. Especially if they're coached in what to say and not to say.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
That's true Andrew.
Maybe he smacked her on the head with the torch and was sent to bed, not realising the damage he had done. The expert thinks that's what killed her, not the strangling. The parents then staged the strangulation & the ransom letter etc?
Anyway, it's well worth a watch. It changed my mind, I was always under the belief it was Patsy.
Maybe he smacked her on the head with the torch and was sent to bed, not realising the damage he had done. The expert thinks that's what killed her, not the strangling. The parents then staged the strangulation & the ransom letter etc?
Anyway, it's well worth a watch. It changed my mind, I was always under the belief it was Patsy.
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I agree, just what I can't get my head around is this, the mom seemed to love her, with all those pageant shows and stuff, kinda getting her to follow in her footsteps, but how in the world could she/they be able to leave her in the state she was found? How can that happen? Too late and covering for their son I get, the rest I dont get. Also, has anyone heard or read something about the mum still wearing the same clothes, like she hadn't been to bed at all?
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
I think (but am not sure) that the wearing of the same clothes - suggesting that Patsy had never gone to bed that night - is mentioned here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl5Ll3sLFs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl5Ll3sLFs8
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Oh cheers Freedom, don't think I've seen that one so I'll watch when I get home.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
That's the mind-blowing bit - when she denied that the similar writing on family photos was hers, or that she couldn't remember if she wrote it.
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Freedom wrote:That's the mind-blowing bit - when she denied that the similar writing on family photos was hers, or that she couldn't remember if she wrote it.
Unreal, the b's are both lower case, the g's both have a tail to the right and both o's have a hole.... really??
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
I don't think it will ever happen but, IF Burke was guilty and decided to come clean now, I presume that he couldn't be charged as he was under 10 when the crime was committed?
His father of course is a different matter and could be charged with all manner of things relating to perverting the course of justice.
His father of course is a different matter and could be charged with all manner of things relating to perverting the course of justice.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
Apart from the "abductors" note, what really convinced me this was staged is an image in a documentary, I saw long time ago so cannot find a link now, where Patsy is pointing to the cellar window, where the culprit broke in. Funnily enough the broken glass was laying on the outside ...
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And JR also said he thinks he broke the window a few months before, surely you'd remember if you broke your own window?
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
So I started watching it late yesterday evening but fell asleep about two thirds in. Not because it was boring. The complete opposite in fact but I was just absolutely shattered.
So will try again shortly.
So will try again shortly.
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http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/watch-the-first-trailer-for-lifetimes-jonbenet-ramsey-movie-w441856
Didn't realise a movie is about to come out on it....
Didn't realise a movie is about to come out on it....
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
After the completing the full first half of it I am looking forward to watching the conclusion tonight.
Certainly recommend watching it if you're interested in this case.
Certainly recommend watching it if you're interested in this case.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/jonbenet-ramseys-brother-burke-offers-8911243
JonBenet Ramsey's brother Burke offers to take lie detector in bid to prove innocence
JonBenet Ramsey's brother Burke offers to take lie detector in bid to prove innocence
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
Another documentary here, covers most of what the others do really..please delete if it's already on the forum.
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Hi wjk. No this one isn't on so thanks for posting.
Have you seen it yourself yet and if so what's the gist of it....?
About to watch part 2 of the other one shortly.
Have you seen it yourself yet and if so what's the gist of it....?
About to watch part 2 of the other one shortly.
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The Ramsey case
Hi Andrew, it's basically the same as the one you're watching now but filmed a bit earlier & doesn't have the phone recordings of Patsy calling 911 but it does talk about them. And there are a couple of the Ramsey's friends on it plus a police woman I'd not seen before speak.
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I've transferred all later posts here to the main Ramsey topic.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jonbenet-ramsey-family-friend-supports-8914011
This is something we've never seen with the McCanns - a friend or neighbour expressing an opinion that they could be involved.
This is something we've never seen with the McCanns - a friend or neighbour expressing an opinion that they could be involved.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey
That's because they've all been gagged. Much like all the Ramsey friends back in the day. Interesting though that this friend has decided to say something now. Pity she didn't say anything 20 years ago though.
No chance will Burke do a lie-detector test.
No chance will Burke do a lie-detector test.
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