Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Mimi Tue 06 Jun 2017, 9:58 am

IMO it is still possible for Corrie to have been told about the pregnancy just before he went missing. His mother doesn`t seem to get it that babies are born about 38 weeks after conception or 40 weeks from the first day of the last period. Pregancy tests can come up positive 2 or 3 weeks after conception, so it`s easily likely if the baby is born around the 9th for him to have known before he went missing.

Saying that, if he decided to just go missing, it would be very hard to create a new identity without someone else`s help.

Andrew Tue 06 Jun 2017, 10:16 am

Mimi wrote:IMO it is still possible for Corrie to have been told about the pregnancy just before he went missing. His mother doesn`t seem to get it that babies are born about 38 weeks after conception or 40 weeks from the first day of the last period. Pregancy tests can come up positive 2 or 3 weeks after conception, so it`s easily likely if the baby is born around the 9th for him to have known before he went missing.

Saying that, if he decided to just go missing, it would be very hard to create a new identity without someone else`s help.

Corrie McKeague's dad claims the missing airman knew he was due to become a dad at the time he disappeared.
Martin McKeague's account contradicts interviews given by Corrie's mum Nicola Urquhart and his girlfriend April Oliver, 21.
Martin, 48, says it is "totally untrue" the 23-year-old RAF man had no idea he was expecting a child.
He claims April revealed the pregnancy to Corrie during a trip to London six days before he went missing.
Martin added: "To say he didn't know is a lie."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/corrie-mckeagues-dad-reveals-know-10471787

Mimi Tue 06 Jun 2017, 4:24 pm

Being a gay boy or confused about his sexuality; being immature and with obvious behavioural issues, I think it`s highly likely he would want to `disappear` if he was trapped into a relationship with a girl and baby. He obviously just wanted to have fun, partying, group sex and all that. But would it be possible to disappear in this day and age without support ?

**Freedom** Tue 06 Jun 2017, 5:16 pm

Many people disappear and are never heard of again. I don't think that the majority of them will have been helped by others.

It certainly can't be easy though to abandon everyone and everything in your current life and start afresh somewhere else.

chirpyinsect Tue 06 Jun 2017, 7:00 pm

Andrew wrote:
Mimi wrote:IMO it is still possible for Corrie to have been told about the pregnancy just before he went missing. His mother doesn`t seem to get it that babies are born about 38 weeks after conception or 40 weeks from the first day of the last period. Pregancy tests can come up positive 2 or 3 weeks after conception, so it`s easily likely if the baby is born around the 9th for him to have known before he went missing.

Saying that, if he decided to just go missing, it would be very hard to create a new identity without someone else`s help.

Corrie McKeague's dad claims the missing airman knew he was due to become a dad at the time he disappeared.
Martin McKeague's account contradicts interviews given by Corrie's mum Nicola Urquhart and his girlfriend April Oliver, 21.
Martin, 48, says it is "totally untrue" the 23-year-old RAF man had no idea he was expecting a child.
He claims April revealed the pregnancy to Corrie during a trip to London six days before he went missing.
Martin added: "To say he didn't know is a lie."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/corrie-mckeagues-dad-reveals-know-10471787

You have to question who would benefit from lying.
Nicola may have decided not to say Corrie knew for a few reasons.
1 She knows how these missing people investigations can go due to her job. A depressed, sexually confused, reluctant father to be may not have been seen as a priority in the vital first few days.
2 She may have suspected he had run off but needed the police onside just in case she was wrong.
3 She may know he is awol but claimed he was missing to let him get a new start somewhere.

If Martin is being truthful then Nicola must have known about the baby from the start as it was she who told Martin on 29th Sep.
I question why the pregnancy wasn't announced very quickly if C didn't know about it and if his mother suspected awol.
When it was announced there was something said about appealing to someone who might be holding C against his will. In other words to let him go as he was to be a father.
I seriously doubted the sincerity of that announcement interview. Didn't sit right with me.

Now what reason would there be for Martin to lie?
1 To make Nicola out to be a liar. Bit of a chance given babies come when they are ready so too risky to seccond guess birth dates.
2 He misunderstood what was said due to being upset. Someone took notes at the meeting for him.
3 There is no 3. ( for me)

Martin says he was told by Nicola that C knew. This was on 29th Sept. He kept quiet until the concert talk started. Final straw?
I wonder if the big fallout with his other sons was because he was kept out of the press conf because he might have stated that C had a pregnant gf.
If you recall, N said at that time there was nothing going on in his life so M's face may have given it away. I think they tried to talk him into keeping it under his hat and he may have even agreed until the FB group stuff went nuts and the lies began to impact on the search.
ALL MY OPINION.

Mimi Tue 06 Jun 2017, 8:46 pm

Freedom wrote:Many people disappear and are never heard of again. I don't think that the majority of them will have been helped by others.

It certainly can't be easy though to abandon everyone and everything in your current life and start afresh somewhere else.

I don`t know how you could disappear without help - unless of course he took a load of cash with him. The police must have checked if there were withdrawals from his bank account and/or credit cards. I suppose he could have got on a ferry to Europe before he was reported missing. He could have got casual work abroad or, given his careless lifestyle, easily made money.

costello Tue 06 Jun 2017, 9:00 pm

Just had a quick look on the Find Corrie fb page:

Nicola Urquhart
Yesterday at 8:42pm
Below is the latest update from Suffolk Police.
In simple terms it means the search continues.
The police have searched the cell which is an area shaped like a bowl. They are now searching the area at the sides of the cell.
Again the simplest way of describing this is, as rubbish is placed in the cell big machines are used to level it out. This causes the waste to be moved around. Understandably this is not an exact science so the police have now checked the tachograph of the lorry and it's GPS to acuratly discover where the cab has parked. (This is not a simple process.) So they now have a slightly more accurate area still in the same cell area to search.
There is no time scale being placed on this, the police will review this daily and continue to search for as long as they find items relating to the area and date range Corrie disappeared.
Waiting is hard, for us all. I do still however believe that this is the most logical place to be searched.
Our gratitude to Suffolk police for continuing this search is immeasurable, I pray we get answers.
Thank you all, once again for the very bottom of my heart for remaining on here and supporting my family. We truly would not be where we are without you all.
Nicola, Makeyan, Darroch and family x x x

Nothing else is mentioned apart from members good wishes etc.

costello Tue 06 Jun 2017, 9:06 pm

SUFFOLK POLICE UPDATE
The search at the landfill site at Milton in Cambridgeshire will continue as officers work to trace missing Corrie McKeague.
Specialist officers from Suffolk and Norfolk police have been searching the area of the landfill site which was identified as holding waste from the Bury St Edmunds area in the relevant time period.
The work is constantly being reviewed and, as the search team are still finding items from the right time frame that are identifiable as coming from the town, the search will continue on a week by week basis.
Throughout the search officers have been working to understand exactly where waste was deposited and how it may have been spread out during the process.
This week police will be bulk-moving further material to allow the work to continue. This is being done to ensure all parts of the relevant area are covered following further detailed and specific work completed around the GPS positioning of the vehicle which brought the waste to the site.
This has led to an expansion of the original search parameters as work continues to locate anything that may help the investigation into Corrie’s disappearance.
Around 4,430 tonnes of waste have been searched through to date.

Andrew Sat 10 Jun 2017, 12:36 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4523286/Missing-gunman-s-parents-clueless-swinging.html

**Freedom** Sat 10 Jun 2017, 12:41 pm

Surely "gunman" isn't the right term for a member of the RAF! Maybe they mean gunner.

The story seems to be another regurgitated one.

bluebell Sat 10 Jun 2017, 1:43 pm

It seems Martin M has been speaking to the D Mail. The article (thanks Andrew) is rather salacious imo but I suppose that gets readers.
Quite a lot of detail about the swinger sites and AO and CM's profiles. It does bring up the point that police are still investigating that side of C's private life as it may have a bearing on his disappearance.
Also MM refers to the rift between the families now. I expect NU to make some replies or comments because naturally it is written mostly from Martin's viewpoint but maybe Martin just wants to keep C's name and situation in current news?

**Freedom** Sat 10 Jun 2017, 1:56 pm

The Mail did manage to call him a gunner when the swinging story first emerged in January.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4141864/Missing-RAF-man-profile-swingers-site.html

bluebell Sat 10 Jun 2017, 2:02 pm

The article has been altered now, he is referred to as RAF serviceman and the previous headline has disappeared Wink

**Freedom** Sat 10 Jun 2017, 2:10 pm

Do you mean today's story? That still has gunman in the link and in the story.

"These details only emerged publicly after the family confirmed the profiles when an internet user discovered and published them online. It was revealed the gunman, stationed at RAF Honington in Suffolk, had accounts on multiple sites and had met up with strangers in the past for sex".

bluebell Sat 10 Jun 2017, 2:18 pm

Apologies Freedom, I couldn't bring myself to read the whole article again and missed that reference remained. Shocked

costello Mon 12 Jun 2017, 9:22 am

Latest post from Nicola on the 'Find Corrie' fb page.

Nicola Urquhart
11 mins
It is with great sadness I find myself writing another message like this again. I do not know the details, only that the person found yesterday in Brandon woods is not Corrie. My thoughts, prayers and deepest sympathies are with their family and loved ones x

Andrew Mon 12 Jun 2017, 9:35 am

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/who-corrie-mckeague-family-release-13169821

Andrew Mon 12 Jun 2017, 9:37 am

costello wrote:Latest post from Nicola on the 'Find Corrie' fb page.

Nicola Urquhart
11 mins
It is with great sadness I find myself writing another message like this again. I do not know the details, only that the person found yesterday in Brandon woods is not Corrie. My thoughts, prayers and deepest sympathies are with their family and loved ones x

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/police-launch-investigation-after-body-found-in-brandon-country-park-1-5056867

costello Mon 12 Jun 2017, 9:52 am

Andrew wrote:https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/who-corrie-mckeague-family-release-13169821.amp

I can't open this link Andrew.

Andrew Mon 12 Jun 2017, 10:02 am

Didn't open for me either when just checked scratch

Try this:

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/who-corrie-mckeague-family-release-13169821.amp

**Freedom** Mon 12 Jun 2017, 10:06 am

I've corrected the original link.

Were you getting dire warnings that the site wasn't safe?

costello Mon 12 Jun 2017, 10:17 am

Freedom wrote:I've corrected the original link.

Were you getting dire warnings that the site wasn't safe?

Yes and thanks for new link.

Andrew Mon 12 Jun 2017, 7:44 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4597094/Corrie-McKeague-s-father-releases-fresh-family-photos.html

Andrew Tue 13 Jun 2017, 3:06 pm

http://www.dunfermlinepress.com/news/15344620.Body_found_in_Suffolk_wood_not_missing_Dunfermline_serviceman_Corrie_McKeague/

Andrew Sun 18 Jun 2017, 2:10 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4615352/Missing-airman-Corrie-McKeague-s-fiancee-announces-baby.html

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