Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Heres a weird and evil one if true.

Parents 'dissolved body of drowned girl in bucket of acid to cover up death'

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/parents-dissolved-body-drowned-girl-14012932?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

I've added your post to an existing topic.

I know we musn't make assumptions of guilt but it's hard not to at times!

How could anyone do that, even in a blind panic.

A new programme tonight on the 25th anniversary of the discovery of the Wests' crimes.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/fred-west-rose-itv-documentary-trevor-mcdonald-murders-serial-killers-a8788201.html

A link to the programme.

It was postponed from 3 weeks ago due to "legal reasons". It would be interesting to know what they were. There was nothing really new apart from interviews with a former tenant who's never spoken publicly before, Fred's employer and the sisters of one of the teenage victims.

https://www.itv.com/hub/fred-rose-west-the-real-story-with-trevor-mcdonald/2a6214a0001

Piers Morgan has been taken for a fool by other hoaxers but he has seen through this one. It's the tale of an actor who allegedly faked a racist homophobic attack on himself.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6730093/PIERS-MORGAN-Jussie-Smollett-lynched-truth-betrayed-black-gay-person-America.html

I presume that this is the case mentioned in the article on the Aussie podcasts topic about the dog handler Mick Swindells.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/life-for-man-who-killed-girl-of-five-1277279.html

Truly horrific - I have never heard of this one before.

Here is the article about Mick S.

https://www.forces.net/news/feature/dogs-trained-find-bodies

There is an oddity - could it have taken seven weeks to find this poor child if she was dumped in an alley 200 years from the killer's home?

P.S. Good news - the killer is dead. This does mention the seven week period.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/child-killer-dead-1574675

Freedom wrote:

Freedom wrote:

Freedom wrote:This one is interesting - the defendant has been tried before and acquitted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-42919353

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Bishop_(sex_offender)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/man-on-trial-again-for-murder-of-schoolgirls-in-1986/ar-BBOsjg8

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/babes-in-the-wood-murder-trial-russell-bishop-guilty-of-killing-two-schoolgirls/ar-BBQLnuP?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

A programme about the case.

https://www.itv.com/hub/babes-in-the-wood/2a6212a0001

Remember John Darwin, who faked his own death?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/canoe-man-john-darwin-who-faked-his-own-death-has-extraordinary-new-life/ar-BBVLXEq?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

This case is mentioned in the latest Mark S podcast. I need to read up about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Peterson_(criminal)

Another "disappeared from bedroom" case.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/us/live-news/missing-illinois-boy-aj-freund/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3Xn6od4-NHFhFmHGbGP27dmsgvUM7LhH32tHaGELG4ZIJUp5Et4DHshW8

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/crime/british-man-says-he-did-nothing-wrong-as-police-probe-murder-of-a-mother-and-toddler-in-canada/ar-BBWo0d8

Let's hope that these two turn up safe and well but it is being treated as a murder enquiry.

Freedom wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/crime/british-man-says-he-did-nothing-wrong-as-police-probe-murder-of-a-mother-and-toddler-in-canada/ar-BBWo0d8

Let's hope that these two turn up safe and well but it is being treated as a murder enquiry.

Not a very surprising development I have to say.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/briton-robert-leeming-charged-with-murdering-mother-and-daughter-in-canada/ar-AAB4qMy?li=BBoPRmx&ocid=mailsignout

We've mentioned this one before but I can't find where.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/crime/jayme-closs-abductor-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-without-parole/ar-AABStAv?li=AAnZ9Ug&ocid=mailsignout

Freedom wrote:An interesting case with lots of twists and turns.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/04/nyregion/michael-skakel-conviction-reversed.html

Pat Brown posted this report some time earlier - don't know when as it's undated.

http://www.patbrownprofiling.com/article12.html

Pat has had enough of giving interviews! This is the programme. https://www.thewrap.com/the-case-of-martha-moxley-reexamines-heinous-murder-44-years-later/

"If you watched Murder and Justice: The Case of Martha Moxley this evening, you have just seen the last taped documentary or television interview I will ever do unless I have total confidence in the producers and the outcome. Although my interview was not misrepresented, a good deal of what I said was not included, important things like Ken Littleton was arrested for crawling in a woman’s window and getting on top of her, which is not the behavior of a distraught young man but of a serial rapist. He has a long history of violence and negative behaviors against women and even threatened to kill his ex-wife. But, all of that is brushed away by the host of the show, former prosecutor Laura Coates, along with his lack of alibi, failed polygraphs, and physical and mental ability to commit the crime and cover it up and a bunch of other strong evidence...why? Because his ex-wife doesn’t think he did it and because Martha’s brother feels sorry for him and thinks he is just a “tragic figure.” She doesn’t bother to examine the evidence that places Littleton in the top suspect spot nor does she address the fact that Michael Skakel had an excellent alibi and could not have committed the crime. She says she just doesn’t think Littleton is guilty. She must have been a dynamite prosecutor. But, wait, after she states that it isn’t Littleton, on comes Mark Fuhrman to give his completely worthless “profile” of the killer that he just simply made up. Then he states he is absolutely sure that Michael Skakel is Martha’s killer. No evidence, just conjecture. Next week’s show, Part 2, I am sure is going to be all about the Skakel privilege and money and how he got away with murder. So, the agenda was set before the show was filmed; no one was really interested in what certain experts brought to the table. I was just fodder for setting up a suspect only to have everyone else knock the suspect down. Probably, no one will notice that there was never any actual argument against anything I said, no evidence to invalidate my statements, just a bunch of folks coming after my segment to wash it away. THIS is the kind of crime show we have now on television. Evidence and the truth do not matter; it’s all about ratings, money, and making the viewers happy".

Quite honestly, this sounds like something that Mark Williams Thomas would come up with.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/suzy-lamplugh-wasnt-on-the-way-to-meet-mr-kipper-on-the-day-she-disappeared-ex-met-detective-believes-estate-agent-faked-appointment-in-case-that-has-baffled-police-for-33-years/ar-AADl3PS?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

If the couple seen by a witness at the house weren't Suzy and "Mr Kipper" it's very unlikely that with all the publicity, they wouldn't have come forward and been eliminated.

What's that about a second set of keys? The fact that there was one set in the office doesn't mean that Suzy didn't have one too.

Police searching for Suzy Lamplugh move onto farmland.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7209615/Police-investigating-Suzy-Lamplugh-murder-dig-field-near-Worcester.html

Possibly no repeatable comments can be made here.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7313715/Prostitute-jailed-murdering-two-young-daughters.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

Freedom wrote:Possibly no repeatable comments can be made here.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7313715/Prostitute-jailed-murdering-two-young-daughters.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

Horrific and sadly not not unusual for a child or children to be in the way of adult entertainment whether it be their mobile phones or worse. I am sickened on an almost daily basis of parenting.

Tangled Web wrote:

Freedom wrote:Possibly no repeatable comments can be made here.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7313715/Prostitute-jailed-murdering-two-young-daughters.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

Horrific and sadly not not unusual for a child or children to be in the way of adult entertainment whether it be their mobile phones or worse. I am sickened on an almost daily basis of parenting.

I agree some modern parenting is unthinkable.

the questions I ask of this sad case are:

she was obsessed with sex so why not use contraception to avoid having children that will obviously affect your life in many aspects, not only sex?

why not get the morning after pill if the pregnancies were unplanned?

if the girls were getting on her nerves (they obviously were) why not hand them over to social services who would find them foster parents and maybe they would be adopted by a decent family?
Whjy not hand them over to the father - though that might not be a good idea as what kind of decent man would having anything to do with someone like her?

50 years on from the Manson gang horrors.

https://www.vox.com/2019/8/7/20695284/charles-manson-family-what-is-helter-skelter-explained

We must have mentioned the Yorkshire Ripper here somewhere.

The hoaxer who fooled the police has died. I do recall thinking at the time that the tape and letters were unlikely to be genuine.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/twisted-yorkshire-ripper-hoaxer-wearside-jack-drinks-himself-to-death-at-63/ar-AAG1Ql5?li=BBoPRmx&ocid=mailsignout

Freedom wrote:The youngest child has now died.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/salford-house-fire-fourth-child-dies-in-hospital-as-two-are-charged-with-murder/ar-BBGHsf2?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

A sad postscript - the mother has now died.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7394915/Michelle-Pearson-mother-four-children-killed-Salford-house-fire-dies.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

I posted a link to this case when it happened but can't find it now. It's still very mysterious - how did the boys die and what was the motive for their murder and the plan to kill all the children and why the secrecy as to what relation the co-accused is to the mother.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7512153/Mother-Sarah-Barrass-admits-murdering-two-sons-aged-13-14-family-member.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small