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Did Goncalo give any hints in that last interview? I didn't pick up on any, just the one about another timeline by KM.

dogs don't lie wrote:Did Goncalo give any hints in that last interview? I didn't pick up on any, just the one about another timeline by KM.

I'm not sure ddl, I think your right just the one about the new timeline.

... GA is far from daft. At the time he had access to everything (which we don't). And he still concluded that M met her demise on the 3rd.

If evidence came to light later on and he now knew that M died prior to the 3rd, then with all the crap he has had to put up with, then I'm sure he would of sung. And loudly.

Again, just my thoughts.

A few things, new timeline, crem stuff, witness seeing G drunk... etc.

There's an interesting reconstruction as well on the video.

I think that GA thinks it still all happened the 3rd.

Just my opinion. And probably wrong.

Andrew wrote:... GA is far from daft. At the time he had access to everything (which we don't). And he still concluded that M met her demise on the 3rd.

If evidence came to light later on and he now knew that M died prior to the 3rd, then with all the crap he has had to put up with, then I'm sure he would of sung. And loudly.

Again, just my thoughts.

Not necessarily Andrew. I believe GA knows exactly what happened and when, note he won't even mention the murder word,( he uses accident)
which again shows his total professionalism. Again just my take.

But he was the subject of a trial Andrew. He could not have, even if he wanted to, disclose anything further that wasn't in the files. To do that would have been crazy. Don't forget he became a private citizen before he published the book, which he did to protect the PJ imo. And he did say that he knew more than he had disclosed.

I'm the same. I believe he knows exactly what happened and when.

Hence why he's never changed his opinion.

Well not yet anyway, I suppose...

... I'm not sure why it would of been crazy to spill the beans if he had the proof afterwards.

He wrote a book on said files that he had access to. All of it.

Yes, he protected the PJ with his thesis. Which has not changed in 9 years.

Apologies all. I'm just in the opinion that GA knew exactly whats what back in 2007. Hence why he had to go.

I agree Andrew, however there has been as yet no confirmed conclusion to this case, still ongoing. GA can only comment on the case up until his removal. He must know exactly what happened, but is unable to comment as he was taken off the case and then retired in order to air his views via the book. He seemingly retired to save any more speculation falling on the PJ. This is according to Adiren.

Andrew wrote:... I'm not sure why it would of been crazy to spill the beans if he had the proof afterwards.

He wrote a book on said files that he had access to. All of it.

Yes, he protected the PJ with his thesis. Which has not changed in 9 years.

Apologies all. I'm just in the opinion that GA knew exactly whats what back in 2007. Hence why he had to go.

I didn't mean he had the proof just that he couldn't have deviated from what he wrote with the knowledge he had at the time. He may even have known more than he disclosed on publication date but precisely because there was no proof that she died earlier, or indeed proof that the parents were involved he had to stick with the PJ thoughts and findings at that particular time. Crazy because he probably knew the parents would try to sue him, but by sticking to what was in the files, he gave himself a fighting chance. It has finally proved to be a good strategy.
Imagine if he had written some of the more colourful theories that have abounded over the years, without any back up from the files. They would have wiped the floor with him.
I'm not saying he was wrong or a bad detective btw. Far from it. Just that the book was probably started shortly after he was removed from the case and a whole lot of thinking has gone into it since. I would imagine GA has been delving very deeply into certain peopke since Oct 07.

... on a sidenote, do you think GA would agree with some of TB's colourful theories....

I certainly don't.

Again, personally I don't think much has changed since GA was removed.

He was bang on but with not quite enough proof and some interference to save face, then it all came to a halt.

In my opinion Andrew no-way would GA embroil himself in any of TB's theories, just my thoughts as he doesn't have an ego to maintain. He was simply doing his job, speaks volumes.

Andrew wrote:...  on a sidenote, do you think GA would agree with some of TB's colourful theories....

I certainly don't.

Again, personally I don't think much has changed since GA was removed.

He was bang on but with not quite enough proof and some interference to save face, then it all came to a halt.

Well GA certainly seemed to believe the Smiths but maybe if he has studied the 4257 reasons that the Smiths are lying he may have had a rethink.

chirpyinsect wrote:

Andrew wrote:...  on a sidenote, do you think GA would agree with some of TB's colourful theories....

I certainly don't.

Again, personally I don't think much has changed since GA was removed.

He was bang on but with not quite enough proof and some interference to save face, then it all came to a halt.

Well GA certainly seemed to believe the Smiths but maybe if he has studied the 4257 reasons that the Smiths are lying he may have had a rethink.

Haha, I very much doubt it!

Count me in too ... :-)

... as well as the 4527 reasons, 276 polls, 838 cartons of blue ink and TB openly suggesting that GA was completely wrong etc. And tried to advise him to correct......

Then that to me says GA was even more bang on the money.

Ithink you will find that mr amaral made it very clear on the last video I think it was,and other times . It was not his thoughts etc, but the outcome of the pj work with him before he was removed from his job ,he has said this a lot ,so its not his thoughts of what happened ,but results of the work carried out by the team ansd the Leicester group of police worked along side pj ,and they had agreed also. joyce1938

Hi Joyce.

So what do you think....

About the demise of M.... etc.

Surely Gonçalo believes in the results of his investigation?? How could he do his job but not put trust in his own findings. IMO, what he makes clear in his interviews and book is the fact that the results were not just believed by him but throughout his team and LP?
IMO

Agree with that, ddl.

As stated, i believe that he belived in his own findings (plus some).

dogs don't lie wrote:Surely Gonçalo believes in the results of his investigation?? How could he do his job but not put trust in his own findings. IMO, what he makes clear in his interviews and book is the fact that the results were not just believed by him but throughout his team and LP?
IMO

It was only his investigation up till 2 Oct 2007 though. The case wasn't archived until 2008. Joyce is correct. In an interview he made it clear it was the opinion of the investigation and so he could not ( even if he wanted to ) have said anything else.
I'm not saying he doesn't still think death on the 3rd. He may well do but I don't think we will know for sure until the appeal is laid to rest finally. Not too long till we hear about that I hope.

Maybe (hopefully) this new book about the timeline etc, will reveal all that he knows...

So he's fighting for his freedom of speech, even though he may not believe the book to be correct anymore?

chirpyinsect wrote:

dogs don't lie wrote:Surely Gonçalo believes in the results of his investigation?? How could he do his job but not put trust in his own findings. IMO, what he makes clear in his interviews and book is the fact that the results were not just believed by him but throughout his team and LP?
IMO

It was only his investigation up till 2 Oct 2007 though. The case wasn't archived until  2008. Joyce is correct. In an interview he made it clear it was the opinion of the investigation and so he could not ( even if he wanted to ) have said anything else.
I'm not saying he doesn't still think death on the 3rd. He may well do but I don't think we will know for sure until the appeal is laid to rest finally. Not too long till we hear about that I hope.

Exactly - the whole investigation at the time with all the work put in and a lot of stuff that we, Joe public, are not privy to, all came to the same conclusion.... the 3rd.

If there was a sniff of evidence that contradicted that, then it would of sharply come to light.

Imo etc..

So do I get this right? Said authour who already has book in print "out there" is working on a rewrite or something new.....with the assistance of PeterMac and "others". Ok......still don't understand the need for radio silence but lets hope something good comes of it. As far as I see it we have little new to the table. Pretty sure the Smithman stuff is on here in some form or other and if it contained any earth shattering stuff it would already be the topic of discussion here and elsewhere.....the plot not so much thickens as keeps moving albeit very tediously.....