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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Dee Coy on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 1:51 pm

bluebell wrote:I think this is very encouraging.    As you suggest Dee Coy, Redwood has completed his remit and this seems to be the conclusion that remit has come to.

Now on to the next stage, the Homicide and Major Crime section, no messing.

The comments below from Nicola Wall are exactly what we need to hear after seven long years.     IMO of course.







I always think about the person that's lost their life, because that's really who we work for, somebody who's been killed. They haven't got a voice any more. It's dreadful and you do get upset. And that doesn't diminish with time." But you keep doing it: "Because you're doing something good. Because it is commitment. Everything you've got, and every skill you've got, and everything you can muster to do is a very good thing to do. And when we get people, justice is done, but we can't bring the person back."

More encouraging words clipped from the Vogue article Mimi posted on page 1:

" She usually has about six or seven live cases at any one time, and prides herself on her investigative speed; she is only partially joking when she attributes her low media profile to the fact "we solve cases so quickly nobody gets involved…"


Perhaps not such a long final chapter after all.

The McCanns have been 'informed' it would appear. I wonder what they're thinking.

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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Mimi on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 2:04 pm

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Re:Andy Redwood retires from the Met-New DCI Nicola Hall

Post  costello on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 2:26 pm

Why does the phrase Good Cop Bad Cop spring to mind.
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Cristobell on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 2:27 pm

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Mimi wrote:A woman is less likely to be taken in by KM`s poor me poses and is more likely to see through all the other flannel.




I so agree Mimi, only I didn't want to say it in case it was considered  'sexist'.         Cool Very Happy



I don't think she will be seduced by Kate's husband either, like the rest of the human and indeed animal, species, she wouldn't want be able to make love to Gerry. Rolling Eyes
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Mimi on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 2:34 pm

Cristobell wrote:
bluebell wrote:
Mimi wrote:A woman is less likely to be taken in by KM`s poor me poses and is more likely to see through all the other flannel.




I so agree Mimi, only I didn't want to say it in case it was considered  'sexist'.         Cool Very Happy



I don't think she will be seduced by Kate's husband either, like the rest of the human and indeed animal, species, she wouldn't want be able to make love to Gerry. Rolling Eyes  

lol!

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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Cristobell on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 2:44 pm

I think this is a really positive step, and the investigation may be moving into endgame. Logically, it would be inappropriate for DCI Redwood to do the closing interrogations. He has been too close to the main players from the start, declaring them NOT suspects or persons of interest and misleading them and indeed the public as to the exact path Operation Grange were taking. The McCanns can, and probably will, accuse him of befriending them and perhaps even lying to them. Any trust that has been built up between the head of the investigation and those involved will have been shattered or will be, once the questioning takes a different turn - remember how they went off alarming about the Portuguese detective who's kids played with their kids. He was a traitor in their eyes and the dialogue between them ended abruptly.

Of course it could also be that Operation Grange has a good few years left in it, but I doubt that. DCI Hall is obviously an ambitious woman at the height of her career - she won't want to be assigned to a cold case for the next decade. The departure of DCI Redwood signals a significant change in the direction of the investigation, imo. The media can have no recriminations against DCI Hall for the misleading information Scotland Yard has fed to the public since Operation Grange began. Parents not suspects, crecheman - the father who forgot he was wandering around PDL with a child on the night Madeleine disappeared. DCI Redwood sat alongside the McCanns on Crimewatch, he had clearly built up a relationship with them I just can't see the vengeful McCanns co-operating with him in any way if they think he has betrayed them, and they will. A new broom sweeps clean, and what with the libel trial resuming and the next lot of witnesses being questioned, I think we are seeing the endgame.
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Cristobell on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 3:00 pm

costello wrote:Why does the phrase Good Cop Bad Cop spring to mind.



In a nutshell Costello! Very Happy I don't think the McCanns are going to have a very great Christmas, at least with Redwood it was better the devil you know......
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  canada12 on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 3:13 pm

I think this is an excellent move by Andy Redwood, and SY. In one swift move, they've changed the main player on SY's side, and removed the main player TM has been familiar with over the past number of years. We knew AR was going to retire, so it's no surprise to us, really. But I wonder how much advance notice TM was given about the exact timing. I await the lady's results.
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Lioned on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 3:26 pm

I'm going to have to think of a new song !

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Re:Andy Redwood retires from the Met -New DCI Nicola Hall

Post  costello on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 3:27 pm

Hi Cristobell  Great to see your posts again. I would agree this new DCI seems like she will take no prisoners (pardon the pun).I don't want to go off topic but I for one would like to hear your views on the Gordon Brown Leaving thread if possible.
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Helenmeg on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 3:31 pm

Someone posted this link on the other site - from the Mirror's reporting of the handover to Nicola Wall.
Do watch the video clip -

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cop-who-led-4753080

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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  canada12 on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 3:46 pm

Just want to add also that I doubt this decision is anything like last minute, and may have been in the works for months, perhaps years. And that if SY has had its act together, Nicola Wall will have been part of this investigation all along, but occupying a very low profile position, shadowing AR.
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Lioned on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 3:48 pm

It suggests to me that arrests are not likely in the very near future,if i was in charge i'd certainly postpone my retirement to see that through.

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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Poppy on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:00 pm


Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton 5 mins5 minutes ago
Madeleine #McCann parents thank DCI Redwood for his `commitment' during search for their daughter. `We don't think he could have done more.'
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Mimi on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:05 pm

canada12 wrote:Just want to add also that I doubt this decision is anything like last minute, and may have been in the works for months, perhaps years. And that if SY has had its act together, Nicola Wall will have been part of this investigation all along, but occupying a very low profile position, shadowing AR.

That makes sense C12.

I bet there are moves afoot in TM to start a persuasive campaign to try and convince the new DCI of their innocence and victimhood. I bet they will try and manoevre her into a position where she is working for THEM.
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  bluebell on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:06 pm

Lioned wrote:It suggests to me that arrests are not likely in the very near future,if i was in charge i'd certainly postpone my retirement to see that through.





Maybe, just maybe, Redwood wasn't given a choice?         Anyway I think three and a half years on one job of 'investigating' this is enough.    He and his team must have come to some sort of conclusion by now, and I believe this is why it has been taken over by Homicide.    

The "abduction" as reported just didn't happen, there has been no sighting or evidence of this poor little girl for seven years now.   Surely it is time to accept that she is sadly deceased, however much everyone would wish it were not so.    It surely must also be accepted that it is a case of murder, no more shilly=shallying, and let's hope for a quick completion (or at least for some charges to be brought).

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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  paracetamol on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:09 pm

She is for sure very well prepared for her task. The news is a surprise for us but not for Operation Grange.
Wasn't already known that Redwood would retire?
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Cristobell on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:10 pm

costello wrote:Hi Cristobell  Great to see your posts again. I would agree this new DCI seems like she will take no prisoners (pardon the pun).I don't want to go off topic but I for one would like to hear your views on the Gordon Brown Leaving thread if possible.

Many thanks Costello, have been working hard on a project, so not had very much time. Will certainly take a look at the Gordon Brown thread Smile

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Post  Lioned on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:14 pm

Redwoods retirement has been rumoured for quite a few months (at least six) thought we had a thread on it somewhere,maybe elsewhere.And so this lady will have been involved for some while i suggest.
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Post  paracetamol on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:23 pm

Lioned wrote:Redwoods retirement has been rumoured for quite a few months (at least six) thought we had a thread on it somewhere,maybe elsewhere.And so this lady will have been involved for some while i suggest.

Agree, Lioned, agree!
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Post  Cristobell on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:25 pm

Lioned wrote:It suggests to me that arrests are not likely in the very near future,if i was in charge i'd certainly postpone my retirement to see that through.



I think there will be a lot of criticism of the 3 and half wasted years and the money that has been spent - by retiring it will all go with DCI Redwood. Its a common theme within the police (the tv ones anyway) that past errors can be swept away with retired police who have guaranteed pensions.

I think the investigation is changing direction, Redwood has explored all and every lead that may have proved an abduction, and there is nothing left but the parents. And I think Costello is right with 'good cop/bad cop, the McCanns have clearly NOT co-operated with that nice Mr. Redwood, maybe they are bringing out the thumbscrews with DCI Wall. And sexist or not, the fragrant Kate seems to have won over the roughy toughy policemen with her simpering voice and total dependence on her man, but that won't wash with an independent and more attractive woman, like Nicola Wall.
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Re: DCI Andy Redwood

Post  Lioned on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:36 pm

Lets hope She hits the ground running.She certainly has a great opportunity to make a name for herself now.

I agree it does look like the groundwork has been done ready for a change of direction now.

Abduction pretty much ruled out,'death' pretty much certainly ruled in (them dogs cannot be ignored).

Where ever those daft stories about burglars stealing dead children come from i doubt the head of Homicide believes them.

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Post  Guest on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 4:51 pm

Lioned wrote:Redwoods retirement has been rumoured for quite a few months (at least six) thought we had a thread on it somewhere,maybe elsewhere.And so this lady will have been involved for some while i suggest.
Yes. There will have been quite a substantial handover period.

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Post  Guest on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 5:08 pm

My opinion is that this has been planned for a long time, and it will mark the shift from investigation stage to prosecution stage.

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Post  Guest on Fri 05 Dec 2014, 5:09 pm

wlbts wrote:My opinion is that this has been planned for a long time, and it will mark the shift from investigation stage to prosecution stage.
It is interesting that Andy Redwood started out with the brief that he was pursuing an "abduction" case, and now they have superceded him with a "murder" specialist.

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