The Mystery of Ben Needham

Can i ask Sat if the tractor driver is an attempt to tell others not to go down the route of the tractor driver?.....or am i just being a conspiraloon? I just find it amazing that a theory of sorts aired by Grange could be the answer to an other case....bonkers or what!

Satsuma wrote:Do I think that Dino is involved? Not if they find the body parts there

if they do, there are some big surprises on the way

Solve this conundrum

Who might have removed his shorts from the place where they were drying, to make it look as if he'd been abducted?

What's your theory then, Sat.....

Apologies if you have stated before. But I can't recall and you do seem quite knowledgeable on this particular case...

I she is suggesting it was staged ie if Dino killed him accidentally or otherwise then that is the last place he would be buried. But under the stress of the moment people can'take think straight so maybe you would have the wits to move a body or maybe you wouldn't.

I think Sat is also saying if Dino had accidently run into Ben and tried to cover it up.....surely he would not have been stupid enough to leave said cadaver insitu? Then if accident why would someone want to persue abduction viz a viz the missing pants?

I reckon we should wait and see what they find before drawing any conclusions
but yes the idea that Dino would have buried the body where he allegedly crushed it is just crazy
he knew the whole island, so why leave it there?
Admittedly the police may be working on the basis that the body may have been removed, and that only a few bone fragments/other things were left behind, only time will tell

Grandad says that Dino was seen driving his digger too fast near the farmhouse, when G invited D over to dig a path to the farmhouse (Mirror 17 Sept) so it doesn't make sense that this theory wasn't investigated at the time
Of course, now that Dino is dead, he isn't in a position to deny it, is he?

Also, it's daft to think that a friend of Dino would reveal the "truth" after his death because it implicates them in a 25 year long conspiracy to conceal the cause of BN's demise

Just going through the points that other members made last night

There is a huge difference between Dino accidentally killing BN and deliberately hiding the body, and Dino unknowingly concealing a body during the course of his daily work on the plot adjacent to the farmhouse and building site

Body, not child. And if that's the case, it doesn't explain how he died in the first place

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/27/ben-needham-search-fabric-found-at-excavation-site

Police searching for missing toddler Ben Needham on the holiday island of Kos have found items of “slight interest” – including fabric – following an initial excavation of a site close to where he was last seen.

What was he allegedly wearing when he disappeared... I can't remember?

ETA - ignore that. It says further down the article.

An update on this link from ITV news:

https://twitter.com/itvcalendar/status/780708434031341568

Let's have a theory, Sat.

Spill it out.

Cheers.

Andrew wrote:http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2016-09-28/media-allowed-into-farmhouse-for-first-time-as-search-for-ben-needham-continues/

Times must be hard at ITV, that photo and video look like they were produced by a ten year old with a broken smartphone, older than him.

Andrew wrote:Let's have a theory, Sat.

Spill it out.

Cheers.

Let's wait and see what they find, Andrew

They dug up the front garden of the farmhouse 4 years ago (see photo below), amazing it's taken them this long to dig up what is effectively the "back garden"

Now the media have been invited into the farmhouse, let's hope they stop confusing it with the stone house over the road

I see Bennett has copied the above picture from here and posted it over there thinking it was one taken today.

This is at the front of the farmhouse, where they were digging in October 2012



and this is at the rear, where the current dig is taking place

2012 = to the left. Now = to the right. The digger is between the 2 telegraph poles

They've taken out the stone wall. Do they think something is under there, ie was the wall built over the top of whatever it is?

I can see a potential scenario developing here...
IF the digs find something that turns out to be the remains of Ben Needham or his clothing...
IF the forensics involved in this discovery are proven to be 100% or near 100% accurate...
I can see the same forensics being applied to the McCann mystery. We don't know what was found on the last expedition to Portugal... we weren't told - and even if they had found something it would have been wise of the police not to reveal anything.

Potentially interesting times ahead if it turns out cutting edge forensics are the key to finding Ben Needham.

Andrew wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-ben-needham-police-find-8937974

Breaking: Ben Needham police find evidence of "decomposition" at Kos dig site as they search for missing toddler

Lots of reading between the lines to be done in that article.

Also they seem to be digging awfully close to the Needham house considering I had gained the impression that the digger driver was working quite some distance away.

Funnily enough, Canada, I was thinking similar things about OG....

OG must have had some very strong intelligence to go about there business over there (and no I don't think it was just for show). Very much like what we see here - they are very specific in the areas that they are searching. I don't for a second think that OG went on a jolly to Portugal and just randomly started digging for the sake of it.

And as you say, if they did find 'things of interest' (which I believe they did), then of course they wouldn't announce it there and then.

Yes, interesting times ahead indeed.

For whatever reason I believe this case has to be solved before the 'bigger' one. A bit like a starter and main-course. And then the dessert is the truth and closure on both cases.

Which we're heading towards. Imo.