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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 7:34 am

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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 8:31 am

Tom IngallVerified account ‏@TomIngall 2m2 minutes ago
Day 12 of Operation Ben. The team are attempting to match rubble here, to the farmhouse where #BenNeedham was last seen. @BBCLookNorth
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Post  Heisenburg Fri 07 Oct 2016, 8:38 am

I wonder if its thought a complete skeleton would be found or just fragments of bone?
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 9:09 am

As horrible as it is thinking about it then you'd think they'd be looking for a full skeleton. If they found parts of it at different locations, well that doesn't bare thinking about on how the poor soul met his fate.
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Post  unreorganised Fri 07 Oct 2016, 9:35 am

Andrew wrote:As horrible as it is thinking about it then you'd think they'd be looking for a full skeleton. If they found parts of it at different locations, well that doesn't bare thinking about on how the poor soul met his fate.

Well, without spelling it out, in the accident I referred to earlier it took a long time for those attending the scene to ascertain exactly how many victims were involved. Turned out only to be one. Make of that what you will.

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Post  dogs don't lie Fri 07 Oct 2016, 9:42 am

Heisenburg wrote:I wonder if its thought a complete skeleton would be found or just fragments of bone?

I read they'd be looking for fragments.

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Post  Hope Fri 07 Oct 2016, 9:47 am

Sorry for asking again but does anyone know where Kerry's apt was?
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 9:48 am

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Andrew wrote:As horrible as it is thinking about it then you'd think they'd be looking for a full skeleton. If they found parts of it at different locations, well that doesn't bare thinking about on how the poor soul met his fate.

Well, without spelling it out, in the accident I referred to earlier it took a long time for those attending the scene to ascertain exactly how many victims were involved. Turned out only to be one. Make of that what you will.


Sounds horrific and of course terribly sad.

Without wanting to appear nosey, did it make the mainstream news?
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 9:52 am

Hope wrote:Sorry for asking again but does anyone know where Kerry's apt was?

I can't recall off the top of my head. TTWO and Seahorse are the map experts. Maybe they could update the map with Kerry's apt on at some time...
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Post  unreorganised Fri 07 Oct 2016, 9:54 am

Andrew wrote:

Sounds horrific and of course terribly sad.

Without wanting to appear nosey, did it make the mainstream news?

Very briefly, it was the same day that the wall fell over on the five chaps in Birmingham so was rather eclipsed by that.
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 10:12 am

The journo's are a bit thin on the updates today compared to previous days..
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Post  TheTruthWillOut Fri 07 Oct 2016, 10:24 am

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Hope wrote:Sorry for asking again but does anyone know where Kerry's apt was?

I can't recall off the top of my head. TTWO and Seahorse are the map experts. Maybe they could update the map with Kerry's apt on at some time...

I haven't seen mention of the location of the flat in any videos I've watched Andrew. Maybe it is mentioned in the book?

I'd imagine it close to her work and the caravan as I haven't heard anything about having a car. I wondered whether there were flats/apartments for staff within the Palm Beach Hotel? It was said she was still there at past 22:00 at night when she was informed about Ben and had finished her shift.
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Post  dogs don't lie Fri 07 Oct 2016, 10:36 am

Did Ben go missing around 14:30 and his mum notified at 22:00?

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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 10:43 am

In the early evening Eddie went to the caravan expecting to find Ben with Christine. He wasn't, so Eddie went to Kerry's flat, thinking he'd be there. Stephen was there, but without Ben. Eddie raced back to the caravan to tell Christine and then went back to Herakles in the Land Rover. Stephen took Christine to the police on his bike and then joined his father. It was several hours since Ben had vanished by the time the police took Christine to the hotel to tell Kerry what had happened. Kerry had finished her shift and was sitting by the swimming pool when her mother arrived, sobbing, to tell her Ben had disappeared.
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Post  TheTruthWillOut Fri 07 Oct 2016, 11:19 am

dogs don't lie wrote:Did Ben go missing around 14:30 and his mum notified at 22:00?

That is what Kerry says in the Somebody Knows documentary, DDL.

Quick timeline:

~8:00 Kerry drops Ben at caravan
~11:30-12:00 Christine goes up to farmhouse with Danny, Ben and dog
~14:30 Ben goes missing
~15:30 (after an hour of looking & waiting for Stephen) Christine goes back to caravan to see if they are there.
Early evening (18:00-19:00?) Eddie & Danny return to the caravan but Ben and Stephen aren't there (Christine didn't for some reason go to Kerry's flat herself to check if Ben is there with Stephen having gone back to the caravan for that purpose)
19:00-22:00 Eddie goes to Kerry's flat then to police then to caravan and finally to Kerry's work

If anyone wants to correct any of the above please do.

Just seen Andrew's post and according to that quote only Christine went to the police so where did Eddie, Danny and Stephen meet up after this?
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 11:50 am

That timeline looks to be accurate from snippets that I've read. Although not read her book myself.

Not sure about Eddie, Stephen and Danny afterwards.. scratch
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Post  Hope Fri 07 Oct 2016, 11:58 am

Can't understand why Kerry was nt told sooner. There seems to be little mention of the dog.


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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 12:01 pm

Still no updates or news or anything from the journo's over there. It's as if a media blackout has suddenly appeared.

Or I'm just reading to much into that as there is literally nothing worthwhile to report at the mo.
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Post  froggy Fri 07 Oct 2016, 12:12 pm

Can't see that there has been anything worth reporting on a daily basis since the beginning of the excavations. Media seems to have got carried away with this and would do better to wait until there was something to actually report.
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 12:21 pm

Yeah true, froggy. To me though it seems odd as over the last few days 3 of the journo's there have been making regular updates and tweeting pictures etc. (especially throughout the morning). And today since the morning briefing absolutely nothing.

I think something of significance has happened. Got a hunch.

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Post  TheTruthWillOut Fri 07 Oct 2016, 12:49 pm

What I would like to know is what Dino said in his first statement to police in 1991 (the day after Ben went missing?) like his movements on the day and e.g. what time he left his site, where the digger was kept overnight if not at his current work site, where he went after work and who can corroborate that. Also any witnesses of him doing anything out of the ordinary that day. There is nothing from Eddie who was on the farmhouse site from before 8:00 until early evening and the only interaction with Dino was the putting in the road mid morning before Ben was there.
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 2:57 pm

Duncan Wood ‏@duncanwooditv 39m39 minutes ago
@NicholaDavis there are no updates planned by police but I'll be up at site 2 recording in the next hour and will prob round up week 2

Duncan Wood ‏@duncanwooditv 46m46 minutes ago
@alieeestrath going back to the site in about an hour, I'll try and update then, but nothing of significance so far today


Duncan Wood ‏@duncanwooditv 2h2 hours ago
@Blamhappy there is certain info only revealed when police believe appropriate. Kerry told me herself that she knew this
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 3:20 pm

Nothing of significance and a quiet day then.

Never trust an Andrew hunch. I had one yesterday on a horse that turned out to be a 3 legged donkey and is still running now.

I wonder what he means by the certain info will be revealed when appropriate etc from the Police.....
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 3:21 pm

Duncan Wood ‏@duncanwooditv 6m6 minutes ago
I'm going to do a Facebook live from #Kos on #BenNeedham day 12 in few minutes. Hopefully answer questions as we move between sites
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Post  Andrew Fri 07 Oct 2016, 3:26 pm

https://www.facebook.com/calendarnews/

It should appear on that in a few mins.
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